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Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

Posted on: May 17, 2011 12:52 pm
 
Charles Barkley says that every NBA player has played with gay teammates. Posted by Ben Golliver. charles-barkley

On Sunday, we noted that Phoenix Suns president Rick Welts revealed to the New York Times that he is a homosexual, becoming the first prominent male professional sports team executive to do so. 

In the article, Welts stated: "This is one of the last industries where the subject is off limits. Nobody’s comfortable in engaging in a conversation.”

One person who is comfortable engaging in every conversation is TNT broadcaster and NBA Hall of Famer Charles Barkley. The Washington Post reports that Barkley says that he played alongside gay players and that he believes the NBA is more ready for a current player to follow Welts' lead and come out than most people think.
“First of all, every player has played with gay guys. It bothers me when I hear these reporters and jocks get on TV and say, ‘Oh, no guy can come out in a team sport. These guys would go crazy.’ First of all, quit telling me what I think. I’d rather have a gay guy who can play than a straight guy who can’t play.”

“Any professional athlete who gets on TV or radio and says he never played with a gay guy is a stone-freakin’ idiot,” Barkley said. “I would even say the same thing in college. Every college player, every pro player in any sport has probably played with a gay person."

Also weary of the perception that a majority of straight male athletes are intensely homophobic, Barkley said gay players pose no problem, adding, “Man, we need to outlaw guys who suck at sports.”
Although delivered unconventionally as always, Barkley's point stands. Talent is always going to be the most important determining factor in a highly competitive field like professional sports. That homosexual players have, to this point, chosen the lesser of two evils by remaining anonymous makes sense. That's how it's always been.

But does it feel like we're turning a corner here? Barkley's honesty is important and the support shown to Welts by other media members, including Bill Simmons, helps frame his decision to come forward as an important milestone on a longer path towards acknowledged, public equality.

Does public support for Welts and honest conversation about the life he was living make it easier for a current player to step forward? One would think so.
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Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: May 24, 2011 9:51 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

oKAKU



Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: May 24, 2011 2:10 pm
 

Doubtful

Chuck makes it sound like homosexuality is running rampant through the league. I think he overstates it just a bit. I highly doubt that every player has played with gay guys. Gimme a break, Barkeley.





Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: May 23, 2011 5:41 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

"Awwwww, aren't progressives cute?

Sigh, OK. Can two men or two women make a baby?

Has there ever been a civilization that has grown and flourished with all homosexuals? Ever?? In the history of time??? It can not happen.

The bible says so, but SO DOES A LITTLE THING CALLED SCIENCE!!!

Not to mention what happens to your body when you engage in anal relations over and over. But let's not let facts get in the way of your flowery views of how the world should be. Some people are born more likely to be alcoholics, is alcoholism normal?????

The public schools have failed you. Think for yourself!!!"




Carl, refuting your '"arguments" is like shooting fish in a barrel, but what the heck...

1. Can two men or two women make a baby? Uh, no. But niether can heterosexuals who are infertile or sterile so are they also immoral abominations in the eyes of God and HotCarl? Also, there is a thing called in vitro fertilaization which allows same-sex parents to have have children in the same manner that genetically challenged straight couples do. Perhaps you've heard of it.

2. Has there ever been a civilization that has grown and flourished with all homosexuals? Ever?? In the history of time??? It can not happen. Can you name any civilization that has flourished without homosexuals, since they comprise roughly 5% of any given population?

3. Not to mention what happens to your body when you engage in anal relations over and over. Uh, is there some information you want to share with us on this item, Carl?

 4. Some people are born more likely to be alcoholics, is alcoholism normal????? This is a great question, Carl. I mean, it must be great; it required five question marks! Ignoring the fact that -- if you accept it -- this hypothetical premise undermines all your other arguments, alcoholism is an inherently destructive disorder. Homosexuality, on the other hand, is no more inherently destructive than heterosexuality.  

5. The public schools have failed you. Think for yourself!!! The public schools actually did me a great service by helping me to easily identify close-minded bigots like you. Too bad that for someone as insecure and defensive as you, begging others to "think for themselves" is only your desperate attempt to get people to think like you. Sorry; we're better than that.



Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: May 20, 2011 8:42 am
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

Hotcarl: I'm highly offended by the NBA sponsoring speech control with their agenda driven commercials.

People will always say things are gay or call someone gay as an insult, because homosexuality is unnatural and it disgusts a lot of normal people, who like the opposite sex. Guys can smoke all the pole they want, I support their right to do so. But trying to make homosexuality and heterosexuality a moral equivalent, is intellectually dishonest to anyone with a brain.

Politcal correctness is for fools that can't think for themselves and lack the ability to use rational thought and common sense."



"Unatural?" Really? So millions of gays and lesbians are actually heterosexuals who are forcing themselves to act in ways that actually disgust them? That makes a lot of sense.

So..er "hotcarl": How old were you when you chose to be straight? Oh? You say you didn't choose to be straight? Well guess what, Einstein.Neither do gays and lesbians. It wasn't a choice for you, me, or them.

To sum up, people with real common sense can (a) exercise it, and (b) know the difference between common-sense morality and political correctness.



Awwwww, aren't progressives cute?

Sigh, OK. Can two men or two women make a baby?

Has there ever been a civilization that has grown and flourished with all homosexuals? Ever?? In the history of time??? It can not happen.

The bible says so, but SO DOES A LITTLE THING CALLED SCIENCE!!!

Not to mention what happens to your body when you engage in anal relations over and over. But let's not let facts get in the way of your flowery views of how the world should be. Some people are born more likely to be alcoholics, is alcoholism normal?????

The public schools have failed you. Think for yourself!!!




Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: May 19, 2011 5:46 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

But trying to make homosexuality and heterosexuality a moral equivalent, is intellectually dishonest to anyone with a brain.
The only thing that is dishonest to anyone with a brain is making moral judgments about a consensual sexual practice.  You have your reasons for finding homosexuality amoral, but the assumptions from which you start (say, the Bible) are not universal or objectively validated (this is why it is called "faith").  The intellectual dishonesty here is yours because you assume any moral system other than your own is illegitimate.

Do not substitute the phrase "rational thought" for "the way I think."  This is how I know that you have either a)not seriously thought about this issue or b)are so intolerant of diverging opinions that you have no interest in substantive discussion.



Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: May 19, 2011 4:07 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

THATS FUNNY JEEPSTER!

I'm a Male lesbian!!!




Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: May 19, 2011 1:22 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

Processed tools, google for this:

Gay columnist: let’s face it, we want to indoctrinate children



Since: Mar 16, 2008
Posted on: May 19, 2011 12:08 pm
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

Excellent point Canebros!  Cause that's what gay men live to do, stare at your shrivled up unit in the shower.  Were you hoping somebody was looking?  Something you would like to share with us?  Once again, great point!



Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: May 19, 2011 11:12 am
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

I must be a stone-freakin idiot.  I can't recall any of my teammates staring at my unit in the showers.  Is there something you want ot share with us Charles?



Since: Dec 22, 2010
Posted on: May 19, 2011 10:46 am
 

Barkley: 'Every player has played with gay guys'

What label do you put on people who aren't getting any sex at all?
We call them "Green Bay Packers" fans!!





doesn't that then wipe out blow jobs, hand jobs, anal sex, masturbation, and just about anything else?
Ralph Cifaretto's cheese grater??




Gotta love Barkley, he tells it like it is.

Agreed!





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