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Steve Nash: A gay NBA player would be no big deal

Posted on: May 29, 2011 12:34 am
Edited on: May 30, 2011 7:15 am
 
Phoenix Suns point guard Steve Nash says it wouldn't be a big deal if an NBA player revealed himself to be gay. Posted by Ben Golliver. steve-nash

No question about it: The Phoenix Suns have been at the forefront of advocating tolerance toward and acceptance of homosexuals in the past month.

Suns forwards Grant Hill and Jared Dudley released a public service announcement warning kids against using the word "gay" in a negative way. Suns guard Steve Nash issued a video testimony in favor of a New York gay marriage proposition. And, of course, Suns president Rick Welts revealed that he was gay, becoming the first male major professional sports executive to do so, saying that he hoped to serve as an example for younger people.

In an interview with The New York Times on Saturday, Nash was asked directly whether the NBA is ready for an openly gay active player.
If a player in the locker room came out, it would come and go quickly, too. I really don’t think it’s a big issue anymore. I think it would be surprisingly accepted, and a shorter shelf life than maybe we would imagine. I think the time has come when it should happen soon. I think it will be something that won’t take on this life of its own. It won’t be the O. J. trial.
Nash's comments are similar to those made recently by commentator and Hall of Famer Charles Barkley, who said that every NBA player has played with gay teammates and that he cares far more about a player's ability level than a player's sexuality.  

Is Nash correct in his analysis?

There is definitely some logic to the "shorter shelf life" line of thinking. Controversies and hot button issues seem to come and go must faster these days than they did even two or three years ago, as the latest rumor or gossip of the day is always pressing fast to make today's news outdated.

It's impossible to know if Nash has accurately gauged the tolerance of the NBA climate until a player does come out. But his honest and straightforward comments, which read as accepting and understanding, only help break the taboo of what has long been seen as a dicey or uncomfortable situation. 

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Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: May 29, 2011 10:36 pm
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Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: May 29, 2011 10:31 pm
 

Steve Nash: A gay NBA player would be no big deal

montsho11, sodomy is to be rejected on both natural and natural/theological grounds. First, I give you these conveniently ignored passages in Plato:

Laws 636c:

"[T]he pleasure [ta Aphrodisia] is given according to nature, it
seems, when the female unites with the nature of males for
procreation. Males coming together with males, and females with
females, seems against nature; and the daring of those who first did
it seems to have arisen from a lack of self-restraint with regard to
pleasure."

Also see Republic 403a-c, Socrates questioning, Glaucon answering:

"Can you tell of a greater or keener pleasure than the one connected
with sex?"

"I can't," he said, "nor a madder one either."

"Is the naturally right kind of love to love in a moderate and musical
way what's orderly and noble?"

"Quite so," he said.

"Nothing that's mad or akin to licentiousness must approach the right
kind of love?"

"No, it musn't."

"Then this pleasure musn't approach love, and lover and boy who love
and are loved in the right way musn't be partner to it?"

"By Zeus, no, Socrates," he said, "this pleasure certainly musn't
approach love."

"So then, as it seems, you'll set down a law in the city that's being
founded: that a lover may kiss, be with, and touch his boy as though
he were a son, for noble purposes, if he persuades him; but, as for
the rest, his intercourse with the one for whom he cares will be such
that their relationship will never be reputed to go further than this.
If not, he'll be subject to blame as unmusical and inexperienced in
noble things."

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Next see the book of Romans, chapter 1. The condemnation of homosexuality, as a bestial offense to God, is very clear throughout the Bible. But as seen above, it can be rejected on purely natural grounds. 

Reject the dictatorship of relativism.





Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: May 29, 2011 10:27 pm
 

Steve Nash: A gay NBA player would be no big deal

Reddog, this is the problem with people of your mindset: you "disagree with the lifestyle." Meaning, you're not in a mature enough place to be anything but "phopic." The point here is that "the lifestyle" isn't open to your interpretation. Either live it or don't live it, but if you don't, then you're not entitled to an opinion or persepective on the lifestyle, for it's not YOUR lifestyle. Who are you, really, to "disagree' or "agree" with "the lifestyle"??? It's not a debate; it's not a question; and no one asked you. It's partnership between two same-sex people, and if you're not in such a relationship, you have no right to "disagree with the lifestyle" at all. I mean, it's not a true or false question. It's a UNION between two consenting adults under the eyes of THEIR god. Check your self-righteousness at the door. You're nobody, and you mean nothing to a gay couple's "lifestyle." You "disagree" with the lifestyle...who the hell are you, Mohamed?!

BTW: There's no such thing as "intelligent logic." There's just logic


And you've made my point for me.  I wasn't being self-righteous. i have just as much right to my opinion on the subject as anyone else does, but it won't change people by me disagreeing. if I disagree with you on the cost of tea in China, does it matter? I have friends who live this lifestyle.  We're friends, we don't talk about it. It's none of my business.  And no I'm not Mohammed.  I'm an ordained minister (slightly smaller group of followers)who is an ex college athlete. Again, an ordained minister who has GAY friends who are lawyers, doctors, etc.  So, my "self-righteousness" has been checked.  And, forgive me for the logic comment dear sir of inifinite wisdom.




Since: Jan 16, 2011
Posted on: May 29, 2011 10:07 pm
 

Steve Nash: A gay NBA player would be no big deal

Abody t a time when society urges all of us to teah our children to treat every equally and fairly, isnt it about time we finally grasp that there is homosexuality in every work place which include major sports. Who really cares if he or she can play then they can play. Do you really think i f a player was scoring 28ppg and 12 boards and they came out, that their teamates would stop passing him the ball, I dont think so. Its bound to happen and it wont change tha games at all. 



Since: Aug 26, 2006
Posted on: May 29, 2011 10:06 pm
 

Steve Nash: A gay NBA player would be no big deal

Reddog, this is the problem with people of your mindset: you "disagree with the lifestyle." Meaning, you're not in a mature enough place to be anything but "phopic." The point here is that "the lifestyle" isn't open to your interpretation. Either live it or don't live it, but if you don't, then you're not entitled to an opinion or persepective on the lifestyle, for it's not YOUR lifestyle. Who are you, really, to "disagree' or "agree" with "the lifestyle"??? It's not a debate; it's not a question; and no one asked you. It's partnership between two same-sex people, and if you're not in such a relationship, you have no right to "disagree with the lifestyle" at all. I mean, it's not a true or false question. It's a UNION between two consenting adults under the eyes of THEIR god. Check your self-righteousness at the door. You're nobody, and you mean nothing to a gay couple's "lifestyle." You "disagree" with the lifestyle...who the hell are you, Mohamed?!

BTW: There's no such thing as "intelligent logic." There's just logic.




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: May 29, 2011 9:29 pm
 

Steve Nash: A gay NBA player would be no big deal

And he addede, he would not be having sex with my wife.



Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: May 29, 2011 9:25 pm
 

Steve Nash: A gay NBA player would be no big deal

The choices people make in life are their business.  Nevertheless, if I disagree with a lifestyle someone chooses it doesn't make a a "phobic" of any kind.  If you treat people in a civilized manner, no matter how much you disagree with them, their opinions, or their lifestyle you will earn their respect. I'm sure there is someone in your life that you disagree with to one extent or the other, but they are still part of your life by one association or another.  If I bash someone because I disagree with them, then I am more wrong than i think they are.  we can agree to disagree and still have a healthy, productive friendship.  Yes there are phobics among us, but not all who disagree are phobics.  Let's not categorize all who disagree as phobics for the sake of not wanting to listen to intelligent logic from them.   



Since: Sep 4, 2007
Posted on: May 29, 2011 9:21 pm
 

Steve Nash: A gay NBA player would be no big deal

I have a question for those of you who feel that it is wrong to be gay.  I ask this is search of real answers and not a smartass quip.  My stance on the issue is that its wrong for me but if your not me then do what you want unless it infringes upon someone elses rights.  What is the major reason why people are so against other people being gay?  What is it about the life style that you feel affects you?



Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: May 29, 2011 9:14 pm
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Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: May 29, 2011 9:14 pm
 

Steve Nash: A gay NBA player would be no big deal

Nothing against gays but until science says two people of the same sex can produce a life between them, gay and lesbian people will always have obstacles ! I'm not saying it's right or wrong but we all know our society doesn't look upon a gay relationship as it does a heterosexual relationship ! The only thing worse than a gay relationship in some people's eyes is an interracial relationship !

History has shown not many in this country like either of the two ! 



Last time I checked, interracial couples can reproduce naturally.  No legitimate comparison here.



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