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Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

Posted on: June 21, 2011 1:31 pm
Edited on: June 21, 2011 1:37 pm
 
Posted by Royce Young

As Ken Berger reported, the Wolves aren't opposed to moving the No. 2 pick, but are looking for a deal that "blows them away," as a source told Berger.

Looks like the Wolves are trying to blow themselves away.

After reported deals involving JaVale McGee and Roy Hibbert came up cold for Minnesota, the Wolves turned to the Lakers to try and nab a top flight big man to play alongside Kevin Love.

According to SI.com, the Wolves offered a deal including the No. 2 pick for Andrew Bynum. That one will knock your socks off all right.

The Lakers have denied interest in moving either Bynum or Pau Gasol, with Lakers VP Jim Buss hinting Bynum is untouchable, but there has to be at least some level of temptation here for general manager Mitch Kupchak. Bynum is still just 23 years old (can you believe that?) and at 7-1, is one of the most imposing players in the league. He controls the paint, scores on the block and can own the glass. His issues have just been focus and health, but like I said, with him still being young, there's a lot of time for him yet.

Which is why Minnesota would try and go after him. But it's also why the Lakers likely aren't interested in dealing him. A prospect like Derrick Williams is intriguing because the next franchise scorer will have to find his way to L.A. at some point because Kobe's days won't last forever. However, dealing away a championship caliber center with an eye to the future doesn't sound like the Laker way. They prefer to stay in the now and try and win titles presently and worry about the future when the future arrives.

The Lakers won't have a problem finding a franchise face down the line whether it be in the draft or free agency. There's a lot of talk about them needing to get younger but two things about that:

1) The Mavericks proved that idea is really a bunch of junk. Youth can be overrated. Sometimes, the old guys will do just fine.

2) Again, it's not like Bynum is old. He's just two years older than Williams. We're not talking about some 33-year-old washed up big man with bad feet. Bynum has had his health concerns but when he's right, he's as dominant as any player in the league. Remember, the Lakers have won two titles with him in the middle.

Not a bad effort by David Kahn though reaching out for Bynum. Clearly the Wolves are trying to make something happen with No. 2. It's going to take the right team and the right situation to get someone to bite, but a shot at Bynum was worth it. Love, Bynum, Ricky Rubio, Michael Beasley, Wesley Johnson -- not a bad core at all.

Too bad it's not going to happen.
Comments

Since: Sep 20, 2008
Posted on: June 27, 2011 11:14 am
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

I don't know exactly what the stats you put up mean.. If its meant to say that Lebron is twice as good as Carmello is or Tyson Chandler is slightly better than Melo, you wrong. Carmello Anthony is argueably the best scorer in the NBA. That is very valuable.. Derrick Rose was the MVP, but against a great defensive team in the Heat, the Bulls couldn't score much or when needed to. Carmello can score on anyone, anytime. Any team. His skills set increases, the better the team is. Team him with Amare and possibly Chris Paul, and the sky is limitless.

Carmello, is a superstar. If you're ranking players, I'd say

1. Lebron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Chris Paul
5. Dirk

Then, Carmello.. ANYONE else can be argued not as good as Carmello overall.. Argued means, could take them, could take Melo. And you wouldn't be wrong either way


Kobe- I know, on total achievements, YES, Kobe is better. But for the upcoming 2011, maybe not until 2012 if this year is locked out completely, Carmello is much younger, fresher, and better. Career wise, Kobe is maybe 4th All-Time to Kareem, Jordan, and Magic. But for 2011, maybe 2012, Carmello can be argued better than Kobe

Amare- He's good. But he isn't sooooo good that you can certainly say he's better than Melo. Amare is also a product of D'Toni's system, stat wise

Deron Williams- He's good. But he's not better as a passer than Paul. Not better than Rose as a scorer among PG's.

Derrick Rose- He's a great scorer, but not a great shooter. Melo is a great scorer AND shooter

Kevin Durant- Him and Melo are very similiar. Which makes Durant not hands down better than Melo. I get that Durant is younger, but his career is full of playoff disappointment just like Melo. They both score at an elite level and don't rebound great for their height..


Carmello Anthony is a superstar. You are foolish to argue that. The Knicks gave up NO ONE that can't be easily replaced and got one of the best scorers in the NBA



Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: June 24, 2011 7:03 pm
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

The Knicks made a terrible decision trading for Caremllo?? REALLY?? Cause they gave up too much?? REALLY.. They gave up Raymond Felton, who is an average PG but was having a good stats seasons because of D'Toni's offense.. Wilson Chandler?? Gallonari?? These are replaceable players you can get in the middle of any NBA draft. But when you can get a top 5 scorer like Carmello, a big game, big moment player like NCAA champion Carmello Anthony, YOU GET HIM.. You don't take the risk and wait until free agency.. Too many things can happen.. Mainly, this season may be locked out. All kinds of rules and numbers could be changed.. Anything short of the Denver getting Stoudamire or Spike Lee, was very good for the Knicks in getting Spike Lee..
Win Shares per 48 minutes for Carmelo - 2010/11 - .138.

In comparison, last year's league leader, Prince James had a .244.  Tyson Chandler was 5th at .218.  D-Wade also had .218.  Kobe was .179. 

Melo's career high is .153.  Dwight Howard's career LOW is .172.  Kobe's hasn't been that low since '04-'05 and he's only been that low three times, twice in his first two seasons.  Prince James' career low is .078 back in his rookie season.  Hasn't been below .200 since.  D-Wade's has only been that low twice, once was his rookie season.

So, why is Carmelo a superstar?



Since: Sep 20, 2008
Posted on: June 24, 2011 2:02 pm
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

To:


The Knicks made a terrible decision trading for Caremllo?? REALLY?? Cause they gave up too much?? REALLY.. They gave up Raymond Felton, who is an average PG but was having a good stats seasons because of D'Toni's offense.. Wilson Chandler?? Gallonari?? These are replaceable players you can get in the middle of any NBA draft. But when you can get a top 5 scorer like Carmello, a big game, big moment player like NCAA champion Carmello Anthony, YOU GET HIM.. You don't take the risk and wait until free agency.. Too many things can happen.. Mainly, this season may be locked out. All kinds of rules and numbers could be changed.. Anything short of the Denver getting Stoudamire or Spike Lee, was very good for the Knicks in getting Spike Lee..

This is why the Lakers should hold on to Bynum and trade him for Dwight Howard mid season. Andrew Bynum is NOT Dwight Howard, so this is a no brainer. He's a headache, very injury prone, now has a reputation that follows him with refs of being a thug for his Barea foul, and he's not even in great shape, like Howard. Howard looks like a physical GOD. Bynum looks overweight at times...



Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: June 22, 2011 7:40 pm
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

How do you know any of this?? Reading what the media says? How did the Knicks give up too much? A PG they signed for 2 years to unload later, a #9 pick another late pick, and a euro scrub. Do I regret the Knicks trading Chandler? Yes. But how do you honestly think they gave up too much? They gave up bodies, not superstars.

First, Felton was putting up 19 ppg and 9 apg with the Knicks before being traded and placed on the bench.  Several Knick fans were disappointed to see him go and thought he was a good, young player.  Chandler, another good, young player.  Gallinari was another solid player.  All complimentary guys who could do their part.  Now the Knicks have a soft power forward, Carmelo, and a pocket full of lint.  Throw in Donnie Walsh leaving, likely due to the Carmelo trade with Dolan's fingerprints all over it, and it looks like another terrible Dolan move.  Now they don't even have a decent GM to pull in a couple guys at draft time and we're left watching a miniature, terrible version of the "Heatles". 
They don't trade for him, what stops Melo from resigning in Denver? He never expressed displeasure with being there as long as they brought in better players.
Actually, from Carmelo's mouth after the first game of the season.

”They want to sit down and talk, but my thing is it’s way beyond this year,” Anthony told Yahoo! Sports after scoring a team-high 23 points in the Nuggets’ victory. ”It ain’t got nothing to do with the new GM, Josh, the players. For me, I feel it’s a time for change.

”If I do nothing now, I’m never going to do anything. I feel like my time is now to make a decision if I want to leave or if I want to stay.”



There was nothing in any of his comments about "better players".



Since: Feb 28, 2009
Posted on: June 22, 2011 10:13 am
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

I feel like that dude is saying that the NBA draft is becoming more and more a draft of potential rather then actual proven talent. Most of your 1st roun picks will be Euro Bigs who have never played against anyone of merit. Most of your established college players will be 2nd round players or undrafted, because they do not have the size quickeness or skill sets needed.

As for the Wolves, I think trying to trade the pick for an established player is a great idea. this is a weak draft class, and I would always take the established NBA player over one that has yet to prove anything in the league, especially when your already bringing over a huge question mark in Rubio.



Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: June 22, 2011 9:04 am
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

TheyCallMePro,

Did you really just say Jimmer is the only person worth drafting in this draft?????  There are a few things you will get called for that comment, but "Pro" is not one of them.  



Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: June 22, 2011 8:07 am
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

@notorious98
 
You are not alone about not wanting Dwight Howard. Drew is an excellent center and have skills Dwight do not have. We need to allow this team to jell together and play together for another year.

When Kobe decide to retire that matter would and can be addressed at that time. Throwing all these name around about who we need and who to get with this trade and that trade at this time is pointless.

How do you know the other team would want who we are trying to trade for their player. The other teams in the league are  not farm teams for the Lakers.    

In last years NBA finals Drew played hurt and gave us excellent minutes.

As far as playing the triangle, it start with the ball moving into the middle, then a decision is made to shoot or pass the ball back out. If you don’t get the ball as you are suppose to, I guess you can not play the triangle.

I have seen the guards dribble the ball for 5-10 seconds and sometimes longer when  there should have been a pass to the middle.

We do not need Howard, we need to utilize the big man we have.

As a matter of fact this team go to the NBA finals 3 years in a row. They won the NBA finals 2 years in a row. This is the same team that everyone would want to blow up.

Lat season it was we need a new bench. The bench we had got us to the NBA finals 3 years in a row. We got a new bench.  Now we were sent fishing earlier than any of the last 3 years.

It appear that every time the Lakers hit a bump in the road, everyone on these threads want to get rid of some element of the team.

We need to keep this team together, make a few teaks  and move on to the NBA finals once again.

Changing the team each and every year as most would want on these threads is absolutely insane


“ONE MAN’S OPINION”





Since: Jun 21, 2008
Posted on: June 22, 2011 7:51 am
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

I would steer clear of both Bynum and Gasol... Until Bynum can consistently play 70+ games, I'd say no bueno... Yes, he's a solid player. However; I don't want the injuries.

If anything, I'd say find another big center, or trade for another scorer.





Since: Apr 23, 2010
Posted on: June 22, 2011 2:04 am
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

Saying that Jimmer is the only person worth drafting might make u the most sports retarded person in the world. Not only are there much better players than him but he will be a nothing in the pros and will get destroyed by the better talent. For making that comment you should stop watching all sports.



Since: Dec 16, 2008
Posted on: June 22, 2011 12:40 am
 

Wolves tried to get Andrew Bynum for No. 2 pick?

Bynum is always hurt. And he's got a bad rep. What do the Timerwolves and the Lakers see in this guy?

Having said that, This draft is garbage. Kyrie Irving played 8 games in College and the only full game he played in vs Elite competition  was when his team got beat by 22 points by Arizona. He's proved NOTHING.

Jimmer is the only person worth drafting in this draft.


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