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What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

Posted on: June 22, 2011 11:17 am
Edited on: June 22, 2011 12:14 pm
Posted by Matt Moore

From Ken Berger of
A source also said discussions between Atlanta and Orlando with Josh Smith going to the Magic are "totally legit." Executives say the Hawks have expressed an eagerness to move Smith and would like to shed salary in the process.
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You tell me that discussions with Otis Smith, one of the biggest traders in the GM market, are "totally legit" and you have my attention. 

Smith's at once a perfect and terrible fit in Orlando. Let's examine:

Perfect Fit

Smith provides an athletic wing who can create opportunities by driving and slashing. The death of the Orlando offense is predicated by ball stoppage and useless perimeter passing to whoever can find an inch to launch a 3-pointer vs. working to collapse the defense and initiate the perimeter rotation to a wide-open shooter. Smith brings a weapon the defense has to commit to stopping, which will free more opportunities. He's also a willing passer, which could be extremely dangerous if he could work to find opportunities for the other Magic players, or in lobbing to Dwight Howard. Smith would also help considerably with rebounding both when Howard is on the floor and off. When on, the Magic would unquestionably have the best rebounding combination in the league. Defensively, they'd be even more of a nightmare. Smith is able to corral perimeter wings and has incredible instincts for weak-side block situations. The Magic might double up the next team in offensive rebounds and blocks with that pair. 

Terrible Fit

The worst part of Smith's game is his preference for 3-point shooting when he doesn't have a 3-point shot. A hilarious memory from the playoffs was listening to the Atlanta crowd scream "No!" whenever Smith found himself open on the perimeter debating a heave. So to give him more chances at that in a system that so often allows for both those shots and mid-range jumpers is a terrible plan. Additionally, Smith's good at driving and capitalizing on opportunities, but he's definitely not a "pull-up jumper" kind of scorer. He's not going to work well in the pick and roll with Howard. If the defense cuts off his path to the basket by help or positioning, the offense has to reset. His passing is solid, but he's not going to be a creator in an offensive set. He's an end point or near end point, not a playmaker. And defensively, were he assigned to cover the faster forward with Hedo Turkoglu covering the other, Smith would perform ably but wouldn't be best suited.

It's a good fit should the trade go down, but not perfect. The question will be what more salary the Magic can take on, if any, to get a deal done. They've already got what seems like billions wrapped up in Turkoglu and Gilbert Arenas, neither of whom is a player the Hawks will want to take on.

We'll keep you updated on the Hawks' efforts to move Smith.

Since: Apr 28, 2008
Posted on: June 22, 2011 10:38 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

Obviously the magic will want to get something fir Howard, but they would get a package of players, not one. And they definitely could get better than Josh smith. The whole point of trying to get smith is to team him up with Howard and entice him to stay. If you had a clue about basketball, you would know this.

Since: Jul 28, 2010
Posted on: June 22, 2011 4:31 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

try proofreading before you post a comment... also, Josh Smith for 3 more years is better than Dwight for one more year at most... ask Cleveland if they would have rather gotten something for Lebron or gotten nothing... idiot

Since: Apr 28, 2008
Posted on: June 22, 2011 4:13 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

Howard or several high picks**

Since: Apr 28, 2008
Posted on: June 22, 2011 4:11 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

Buxton, you're making a fool out of yourself. Howard and several high picks for Josh smith? I wasn't aware that Josh smith was Michael Jordan. The magic would never ever ever ever in a billion years do that trade.

Since: Jul 28, 2010
Posted on: June 22, 2011 1:56 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

So, the hawks are just gonna give him away? That makes a lot of sense. Grow a brain idiot.

Since: Jul 28, 2010
Posted on: June 22, 2011 1:55 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

You should look at what the Hawks are asking for. Just because a team is tgrying to trade a player doesn't mean that they are willing to give him away. You need to watch some sports sometimes, maybe you'll learn that.

Since: Sep 6, 2009
Posted on: June 22, 2011 1:53 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

To "pry" Josh Smith from the Hawks? Maybe you should pay attention, sport. The Hawks are LOOKING to trade him. Get with the program, or quit talking.

Since: Jan 29, 2009
Posted on: June 22, 2011 1:01 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

It depends on how much money he ties up. I believe he is a free agent seeking a lengthy contract. And he seems to be another knucklehead (an Otis Smith pre-requisite). We don't have "a square to spare" after Aging Zero and Turkey Doo were brought in and bass and Nelsom were signed for too much. He does add some size and can get out on the break, but, he would be another acquisition that doesn't play D. That means the two aforementioned scrubs, the tiny and oft injured Nelson, the improving but still D challenged Reddick and possibly a resigned D adverse Gay Rich on a team coached by Stan Van Gundy. If so, Stan has to go (or he will have a heart attack) and they need someone like Mike D'Antoni once the Knicks fire him.

And once Dwight leaves, that makes Brandon Bass the best defender (at 6 foot 4) in a division with Pierce, Wade, Melo, etc and he will be relegated to the bench again (and should be traded). And check out a D12-less rotation =  Smith, Richardson and Ryan Anderson with Turkoglu and Nelson or Reddick and Arenas (depending on which combo is currently on the DL). It's a 360 from the D centric aspirations we had a few years ago and smells alot like the current Hawks blueprint (but still without a go to guy that started this game of musical Courtney Lee's). I think we learned this year that having too many similar skill sets creates confusion on our own team not for others. It would be great if he helped grab some boards, blocked some shots, pin wheeled on the break, brought energy and listened to his Coach (all the dirty work). But, Smith will probably mean more unnecessary 3's, more cap inflexibility, a breakdown in D assignments, and dissatisfaction talk about his role. He and Zero never stop moving their lips and will probably disrespect Dwight and make sure he can't wait to get away from Orlando (not that he hasn't already decided to). But, Otis is on a sinking raft and will probably grab at any potential life line. Even if it hamstrings the team for years. He is desperate. He doesn't care about the city or the DeVos's. He just wants keep playing GM. And the DeVos's don't know enough about BBall to realize it. So what number can we expect him to wear?

Since: Jul 28, 2010
Posted on: June 22, 2011 12:17 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

Orlando would have to send Dwight Howard or several high draft picks to even have a chance to pry Josh Smith away from his hometown Hawks.

Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: June 22, 2011 12:02 pm

What kind of fit is Josh Smith for Orlando?

Otis Smith will have nightmares when he does get Josh Smith for a bargain and Stan Van Gundy puts him on the bench because Hedo Turkoglu is "his guy" along with "his other guy" Jameer Nelson.  The Van Gundy's are the modern day "retread coaches".  I am still wondering why Orlando trades for Gilbert Arenas than they don't play him while relegating him to the bench with 15 mintues a game.  Even in Washington when Arenas came off the bench he was positive and productive in Orlando Van Gundy never bothered to use him or give him the opportunity to produce with any consistency. 

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