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NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

Posted on: June 23, 2011 4:37 pm
Edited on: June 23, 2011 5:56 pm
Posted by Matt Moore

Update 4:14 p.m.: Ken Berger of reports that the Bobcats moved up to No. 7 to select Bismack Biyombo. That makes for a crazy pairing with Tyrus Thomas and the most athletic pair of frontcourt players in the league, probably, based on raw length and leaping ability.

Additionally, a writer from notes that the move for the Kings was not made in anticipation of a second deal with San Antonio. Such a fail for the Kings.

Original Report: In a day filled with trade rumors on what's expected to be a wild night even with a disappointing draft class, things touched off Thursday afternoon as the Bobcats, Bucks, and Kings completed a three-way trade. Ken Berger of reports:

The Bucks receive: Stephen Jackson, Beno Udrih, and the No.19 pick from Charlotte.

The Kings receive: John Salmons and the No.10 from the Bucks.

The Bobcats receive: Corey Maggette and the No. 7 pick from Sacramento.

Analysis: .... WHAT?! That's our general reaction. You're looking at three shooting guards with massive deals getting moved around. Here's the contract run downs from

Jackson: Two years, over $19 million, all guaranteed. 

Salmons: Four years, $31 million, over $24 million guaranteed.

Maggette: Two years, over $21 million, all guaranteed.

So the Bucks moved over $45 million guaranteed, and took on $35 million (Jackson plus $14 million from Udrih), saving them over $10 million and dumping most of their bloated contracts. The Bobcats took on Maggette which is an upgrade at the two-guard position, and managed to keep their No.9 pick, now giving them the 7th and 9th pick in Thursday's draft. And the Kings? Uh, they moved back three spots and picked up an aging, undersized shooting guard to go with Tyreke Evans and Marcus Thornton. ...Okay. 

Winner: We'll call it the Bucks, who lost all that salary and still picked up an upgrade on the wing, and still kept a top-20 pick. The addition of Udrih is curious considering Brandon Jennings' place on the roster and will add more question marks towards his future. (Some reports have Shawn Livingston included in the deal going to Milwaukee.) But they cleared all that space and still kept a pick, which is pretty impressive. It's a chance for the Bucks to move back, bring in a wing, and clear some space for a restructured CBA after their spending spree last summer. Grade: B+

Co-Winner: If the Bobcats hadn't had to take on Maggette, they would have won this. Maggette's not a terrible fill-in for Jackson, and the addition of the 7th pick while keeping the 9th means the Bobcats have a chance to wholly remake themselves in the draft, which they have struggled at through the years. This move reeks of Rich Cho, opting for a youth movement while clearing space. If Livingston is indeed included, the Bobcats will actually have managed to save money through this with total outgoing salary of over $22 million compared to Maggette's $21 million incoming. And they get the No.7 pick to go with their No.9. They can draft a big and a wing, two bigs, both Morris twins, Jimmer Fredette as a flyer pick, anything. Grade: B+

Loser: What in God's name are the Kings thinking? Is this some sort of desperate move to make the fans hate them so they'll stop wishing they would stay in Sacramento? There's talk this could be in anticipation of a move for Tony Parker. Even then, a small-market franchise taking on Salmons contract along with Parker's is a rough idea. And where does this leave Marcus Thornton? Is he doomed to perpetual burying by his coaching staff? Will Salmons come off the bench? What is the thought process here? 

The Kings presumably think they can get the guy they want at No. 10 versus No. 7, but taking on Salmons is such a blow, despite giving up Udrih. Udrih wasn't the answer at point guard. Salmons isn't the answer at anything they need.  Grade: F- (pending further action)

Since: Dec 25, 2006
Posted on: June 26, 2011 7:58 pm

NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

Upon further review this deal isnt as baffling for the Kings as i thought. Salmons is  going to play SF. He's not great, but hes a lot better than the motley crew they ran out at SF last year. 2nd- Only the next two years of Salmons deal are guaranteed(2014 is a club option). Since they moved Benos contract in this deal that makes Salmons a pretty cheap upgrade at SF all while maintaining their massive salary cap space. So now they have a starter at SF, although he's not great, while Honeycut develops or until they can make a trade or sign a better free agent.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: June 26, 2011 12:40 am

NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

Brandon Jennings might not shoot at a high percentage but he knows how to play the PG and run a team. He is a legit starting PG
Completely disagree with this.  Inconsistent shooter and lacking the ability to run a team.  When your point guard dominates the ball as much as he does, plays as many minutes as he does, and averages less than 5 APG, something is broken.  His game is erratic and me-first at this stage.  I actually see a lot of him in Kemba Walker - who also can't shoot and won't pass.

Since: Aug 23, 2010
Posted on: June 24, 2011 4:46 pm

NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

The Kings are going to use Jimmer to save the team from moving.  There will be" You just got Jimmered" T-shirts everywhere you look in Sactown.  Between Jimmer building a new area like right now will go a long way toward keeping the Kings right here.  At least that is what the Malooofs want you to believe.  I love Jimmer but if we want the Kings to stay here we better build an area like right now and stop playing around before we have no pro team in town.  That's how I see it as a Sacramento Kings fan.  Somebody is going to get traded as soon as the lockout ends in November or December or next year as in no NBA until the 2012 season.  We have too many SG and SF and no center.  Please go get a defensive center to block shots and disrupt offenses. Why is Frisco still here? He is always hurt and can't shoot get rid of him.  Demarcus needs to grow up and stop crying to the refs all the time.  You are not going to get the call if you are always crying.  Make shots!  That is what really counts and that my friend is where Jimmer comes in. 

Since: Jan 19, 2011
Posted on: June 24, 2011 10:31 am

NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

Jimmer Fredette, horrible situation for not only him, but the Sacramento Kings. A guy that took more than half his teams shots at BYU is coming to a team that is filled with ball hogs and guys that want to take all the shots, Evans, Demarcus Cousins, Green.... This is going to be a disaster!

Since: Jun 21, 2011
Posted on: June 24, 2011 10:11 am

NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

Dont sleep on Beno Udrich. I never thought he was a starting PG(and i still dont think he is) but he has done a solid job playing the starting PG position since Mike Bibby left. Tho i dont think he is a franchise starting PG he should be a solid backup PG. Nothing against Kenyon Dooling but he isnt really a PG. Beno should become one of the best backup PGs in the league. He put up almost 14pts a game 4 rebs and 5 assist a game while shooting at 50 percent from the field. Not bad at all.

Since: Jul 30, 2009
Posted on: June 24, 2011 10:06 am

NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

Bucks did well.  Have a back up PG or another guard to play with Jennings like they did 2 years ago with success.  Salmons looked tired all of last year and Maggette plain sucked.  I like the fire Jackson brings to the table and with Skiles maybe they light a fire under the rest of the bunch which doesn't seem to play with much emotion.  With Redd's contract gone, the Bucks will continue to upgrade the roster.

Since: Jun 21, 2011
Posted on: June 24, 2011 10:02 am

NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

I love this trade for the Bobcats and the Bucks. Im not sure what the kings are trying to do. Al Thorton and Jimmer Fredette might be the same kind of players. Do they really want to run Tyreke at the PG spot exclusively. Cause Jimmer Fredette isnt the answer as a franchise PG. And John Salmons coming back to the Kings makes even less sense. I like Salmons on both ends of the floor but im not sure if the kings are a great fit for him. They are stack at the SF spot(With Green and Casspi) so will Salmons play the SG.(they are stacked their too)

Bucks get Steven jackson and i think he is a better player and leader then both Maggette and Salmons. I never understood why the Bucks picked up Maggette in the first place. Nothing against Maggette either. I think the Bobcats is a good situation for him. Maggette is one of those players who never lived up to his full potential, but he is still very talented. Bismack looks like he is super athletic and i like his potential becoming an inside force.(in the mold of Ibaka but bigger) Kemba walker is probably the second or third best player in this draft when its all said and done.

I have no clue what the Kings are trying to do. They need to make some trades cause they are too young. But Tyreke Evans is a good player to build around and they have some good young players. Bobcats is obviously rebuilding. They have giving up alot of talent in the last few years(Wallace,Felton, and Jackson) but they weren't contenders with all those players anyway. With Kemba nd Bismack i like their direction. Bucks make a move that should get them right back into the playoffs. Brandon Jennings might not shoot at a high percentage but he knows how to play the PG and run a team. He is a legit starting PG. He is the reason for Boguts emergences.(before the injury) And Jackson is the player who should led this team back into the playoffs. He will only add to their solid defense and improve their terrible offense.

Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: June 24, 2011 8:17 am

NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

How can you be okay with this?  Udrih wasn't the answer, but neither is Salmons and, in all likelihood, neither is Jimmer.  Great shooter, probably a decent scorer in the NBA, but don't the Kings already have Thornton and Evans for those roles?  Didn't the Kings really need a PG and not a SG?  It is possible that Jimmer will emerge as a decent PG--he can pass decently--but that's not really his strength, and not really why you'd draft him.  There weren't any centers available, and the F were all 'tweeners, but why didn't they take a shot with someone like Knight or Walker at #7?  Here they add money, create a logjam of shooters, and still leave a huge hole at PG; I just don't get it.  If you're going to trade down--and why not, the talent pool was shallow--dump salary, and go all the way to the 20s, where you can take a shot with a guy like Jackson or even Nolan Smith.  And Leonard would have been a much better pick at 10 ... slasher, defender, decent shooter, ready to play now ... with a Leonard/Cousins/Evans core, even Udrih could have picked up a few assists a game.  This move is non-sensical, like so much else Geoff Petrie has done of late.  Ouch.

Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: June 23, 2011 8:48 pm

Watch Petree Work His Magic

Even though I think Jimmer will be a defensive liability, I'm OK with the trade. Udrih had no future upside and virtually no trade potential. None. I can't believe we suckered somebody into taking his contract. Salmons, though I actually like his game (he's been exciting on both scoring and defensive effort at least), will probably never suit up for the Kings. I can see at least 3 or 4 title contenders willing to take his salary for the benefit of two seasons of possible stellar play to push a team over the top. If the Heat had been able to snag him, I think he could have been enough catalyst to push the series to 7 or maybe even snuff Dallas' party. The real mystery and fun here is wondering who we're going to see arrive in exchange for Salmons before the '11/'12 season starts.

Since: May 6, 2009
Posted on: June 23, 2011 8:42 pm

NBA TRADE: Bucks, Bobcats, Kings 3-way

Maggette is a small forward. He isn't better than S-Jax.

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