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Players decline to offer owners counter-proposal

Posted on: June 24, 2011 3:15 pm
Edited on: June 24, 2011 4:24 pm
Posted by EOB Staff.

The situation, as Ken Berger put it so eloquently, is thus: "In other words, as Kurt Vonnegut would say, the excrement has hit the air conditioning."

The owners and players met Friday in an effort to make progress off of the owners' seemingly concilliatory last offer. The natural step in a negotiation is for the players to respond with another counter-proposal as the two move closer together. But after everyone thought the owners' proposal was a great step forward, the union went ballistic over it.

 The result? Beger reports that Jared Dudley told media Friday after the meeting that the players elected to not offer a counter-proposal, saying the two sides were "too far apart." With a Board of Governor's meeting scheduled for Tuesday, Berger reports that he players expect the owners to vote for the lockout at that meeting. 

It's been a long time coming, and we have a week to go with NBA players and owners agreeing to a "smaller bargaining session" on next Wednesday or Thursday, but the reality is here.

We're headed for an NBA lockout, without question.

If you're looking for subtext here, imagine that the goal is to get a plank balanced on a post. Both sides want as much weight added to their side of the plank while keeping it balanced up in the air. They add things the players want (and have) like guaranteed contracts and things the owners want (like restrictions) to try and get things balanced. After the owners' very Cold-War approach to negotiations for the last, really two years, their last proposal seemed like a move towards progress. But the players feel that the owners have simply moved the post far enough and counter-weighted their side to make it look like it's balanced. In reality, the players feel they's simply moved the post and gotten  more of what they want, by managing the story. 

The players' abrasive and ultimately toxic approach Friday represents the line in the sand. They're not going any further, and they're not going to let the ownership dictate terms any more. The players have been concilliatory about BRI, exceptions, revenue sharing, the works throughout this process. Now that the owners have tossed them what they feel are bread crumbs and called it progress,  the players have elected to throw the bread back in their face and walk out the door.

Berger reports Stern characterized his reaction to the decision as "disappointed."  I characterize his chracterization as "the work of Captain Obvious." 

Perhaps you're wondering why it's taken until a week before the end date of the current CBA to reach this point, why they couldn't have negotiated seriously earlier, to reach this point and then push through it instead of running up against the cliff. 

Welcome to the club.

There's almost no escaping it now. Barring a miracle or a significant coup among the owners by the voices of reason, it's game over.

Professional basketball stops on a dime at midnight Thursday night.

Since: Apr 28, 2009
Posted on: June 24, 2011 4:11 pm

Players decline to offer owners counter-proposal

This, believe it or not, is WORSE than the NFL situation. Teams in the NFL were actually MAKING money.  The owners need to take a stand to stop it. Get comfortable. This could be a long one.

Since: Sep 19, 2007
Posted on: June 24, 2011 4:03 pm

Players decline to offer owners counter-proposal

unite and stick together and don't give in an inch
The NBA sucks and I don't want to see it in its current format anyway.
The longer the holdout, the better
Maybe they'll come back with a game we actually enjoy watching....

There's a reason the league is losing money.....

Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: June 24, 2011 3:56 pm

Players decline to offer owners counter-proposal

22 of the 30 teams are losing money. How does your comment make any sense about "Billionaire owners". Sure they may have money, but the goal of a businessman is to turn a profit. The current system isn't working, and the NBA players rejecting the idea to even counter offer is ignorant and rediculous.

Good luck NBA players, I'm sure your skills will transition well into the real world.

Since: Oct 29, 2007
Posted on: June 24, 2011 3:55 pm

Players decline to offer owners counter-proposal

This simply makes no sense.  Nobody wins during a strike.  And when the NBA is finally gaining in popularity.  Go figure.  The owners can outlast them and the players will not likely ever recoup the amounts lost during the stoppage.  Oh well!!!  Bye Bye.

Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: June 24, 2011 3:47 pm

Players decline to offer owners counter-proposal

Hard to figure out who has no mind... the players or the owners....

Since: Dec 23, 2007
Posted on: June 24, 2011 3:45 pm

Players decline to offer owners counter-proposal

Guess Jared "Dud" Dudley will be forever out of the NBA with all teh other players since this will be the end of the NBA.  lol

Since: Mar 15, 2011
Posted on: June 24, 2011 3:36 pm

Hold Out!

The owners offer is an insult--the players should hold out long-term if needed to get all the money they deserve from the billionaire owners, who have plenty of money to pay a lot more. 

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