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NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

Posted on: October 1, 2011 6:07 pm
Edited on: October 1, 2011 7:00 pm
 
Posted by Ben Gollivernba-lockout

The NBA and the National Basketball Players Association met for the second straight day in New York City on Saturday, but the talks failed to produce an agreement or even much progress. 

CBSSports.com's Ken Berger reports that the talks will not continue on Sunday as expected and that the two sides will be "back at it" on Monday in smaller groups. 

Talks lasted for more than seven hours on Saturday following a lengthy negotiating session on Friday that featured some tense moments and cameos by superstars like LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony.

Representatives for both sides addressed the media afterwards.

Berger reports that NBPA attorney Jeffrey Kessler said that the two sides did not discuss the most contentious issue, the division of Basketball-Related Income, and instead talked about system issues. NBPA president Derek Fisher, meanwhile, acknowledged that there were "still huge gaps" between the two sides, who decided to switch the discussion to individual system issues.

"Break down the mountain into separate pieces and tackle it one step at a time," Fisher explained. "We weren't going to be able to make major, sweeping progress on the entire economic and system at the same time. Maybe if we split them up and try to go at them one at a time ... we can at least get some momentum and some progress going."

USA Today reported that NBPA executive director Billy Hunter said the two sides were still "miles apart."

Berger reported that Hunter believes the owners are still pushing for a system that resembles a hard cap rather than the soft cap that the players prefer. "If you gave them everything they're asking for, you'd ultimately have a hard cap," Hunter said.

On the other side of the table, Berger reported that NBA commissioner David Stern said that the two days of negotiations were "long and in some ways exhausting" and that the two sides were "not near anything." However, Stern noted: "We're closer than we were before."

NBA deputy commissioner Adam Silver painted the discussions as a clear exchange of ideas: "The owners certainly heard the passion from the players, and right back at them from the owners."

NBPA vice president Matt Bonner told MySanAntonio.com that both sides were "a little burned out" and only made "minor progress" on Saturday. His fellow NBPA vice president Roger Mason, Jr. tweeted: "Finished another long day of meetings. Unfortunatey nothing new to report. We are still very far from a deal."

Berger also reports that Stern acknowledged that he exchanged words with Wade on Friday. "There was a heated exchange of some kind."

The next steps for the NBA will be to announce the cancelation of the rest of the preseason schedule. On Sept. 23, the NBA announced the cancelation of the first half of the preseason. Once the entire preseason slate is wiped, a delayed start to the regular season, which is currently slated for Nov. 1, is essentially inevitable. Berger reports that Stern no announcement will be made on Monday but that the decision will be a "day to day" matter after that. 

This post will update with the latest NBA lockout news.
Comments

Since: Sep 29, 2007
Posted on: October 3, 2011 4:49 pm
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

Cubuffan1 wrote: The fact that Latrell Sprewell owes back taxes sums up the NBA?

What an idiot you are. And to think of the tax money that was wasted on your education.

Hey genius, look ta the majority of ex-athletes that are broke: NBA players.  It speaks volumes. The only people who like ghetto ball, aka-today's NBA, are uneducated or low educated people. I'm thinking your the uneducated one. See, I'm a white guy, I didn't get "tax money" to pay for my education. I had to pay for it on my own. Unlike you, my education level is fine. I'm not broke, don't have a bunch of illegit kids, a repossessed yacht/mansions, or posse's. The NBA is garbage, plain and simple. I used to like the NBA back in the day when guys cared about winning championships. Not about grabbing their d**ks, getting tattoos, or marketing their brands.



Since: Aug 13, 2007
Posted on: October 3, 2011 12:59 pm
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

I think this sums up the NBA. According to the Wisconsin list of deliquent taxpayers: Latrell Sprewell is currently the number one delinquent taxpayer in the state of Wisconsin. He owes $3,533,426.49 in back income taxes. Enough said.



The fact that Latrell Sprewell owes back taxes sums up the NBA?

What an idiot you are. And to think of the tax money that was wasted on your education.



Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: October 2, 2011 10:05 pm
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting



What a novel idea. I wish for once the fans would stay away from selected games in all the cities that have a NBA team. Like on Saturday all the fans in Atlanta would not attend a game, followed Saturday by not attending a Laker game, then on Sunday not attend a Celtic game.

Let the owners and players know who the real players are in this negotiations. Let’s see if Derek and David Sterns could negotiate how to play to an empty house.

When  baseball went on strike, a few guys from the New England tried to unite the fans and form a fan union to boycott the ball games.

When the strike ended the fans acted as if they needed a fix, and returned to the stadium as if they were gonna die if they could not get to a ball game.

The same would happen to basketball as soon as the union and owners make a deal and are back to the courts playing again.

I think I am gonna do pro basketball the way I have done pro baseball. If I am in a city where I have never been to the ball park before I would go just to say I have been to that ball park. Other than that I do no attend any baseball games at all.

I am beginning to feel that way about all pro sports as the players are no longer team players, not normally loyal to the team or city. The owners appear to treat the fans with an attitude of as long as we play they will come.

      
“ONE MAN’S OPINION”





Since: Sep 29, 2007
Posted on: October 2, 2011 7:13 pm
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

I think this sums up the NBA. According to the Wisconsin list of deliquent taxpayers: Latrell Sprewell is currently the number one delinquent taxpayer in the state of Wisconsin. He owes $3,533,426.49 in back income taxes. Enough said.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: October 2, 2011 4:05 pm
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

It is really hard for me to comprehend the asking price of the NBA players. They are making so many millions of dollars in a business that is not really as successful as other pro sports and they do not understand it. As for Wade stating that some players are worth 50 million a year, absurd! Playing a game, having no worries for the success or failure of their team or even the league, and they want more, more more. Sounds like the old Billy Idol song. It is time for the players to take a long look at the league, their lives, and the status of the good ole USA. If they think that the average person has any pity or even cares about them making more money, they are truly retarded. When a lot of people are trying to find a job that pays the minimum wage so they can put some type of food on the table for their families, reads about the strike and the meetings, contempt for many of the players are felt. When Sprewell made the famous statement many years ago after turning down an offer that would have paid him millions of dollars, [ I can't feed my children on that ], I knew that no matter how much money was paid to him, it did not matter. He was a jerk then and would always be one. It is time to get this situation under control, even if the whole season is lost. In fairness, the owners are as much to blame for this situation escalating more and more through the years. The fever to win championships and to make more money started all of this to happen at the beginning, but now they realize that the NBA cannot succeed if this free spending continues. A hard salary cap, the end of guaranteed contracts, and reasonable salary for these egotistical human beings must happen now. When Joe Johnson is paid 20 million a year, it is time to stop and smell the roses. Some sort of sanity must prevail.




Since: Mar 29, 2008
Posted on: October 2, 2011 10:55 am
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

2 more words - GOODBYE LOSERS!!!

There ar 3 things in life that I pray for:

1. World Peace
2. An end to famine
3. The dissolution of the NBA


Hopefully we have begun the process.




Since: Jun 2, 2009
Posted on: October 2, 2011 10:30 am
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

The NBA doesnt care that pro leagues are starting up all around the world right now.  They are screwed.



Since: Jan 2, 2011
Posted on: October 2, 2011 9:41 am
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

The players are gonna cave, sorry Dwayne, Bosch, or Le Braud. Yoou have big mouths and big pockets but 75% of the league is living Antoine Walkers life..They won't make it 3 months. He is so much smarter and he know s he is god...unlike the nfl with a few powerful owners who told Goodell what to do. None of these guys tells Stern what to do.  The reality, if the nba goes away..nobodys gonna miss 9 f-king boring months of crappy nba. Its a 3rd teir sports with the legitimacy of wwf. Lock their burger making thug asses out Stern..



Since: Jan 2, 2011
Posted on: October 2, 2011 9:34 am
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

2 words..."WHO CARES"



Since: Jul 23, 2011
Posted on: October 2, 2011 8:53 am
 

NBA, NBPA have 'huge gaps' after 7-hour meeting

If I owned an NBA team that would lose more money under the current system by playing a season rather than moth balling it, I would be firm in my negotiations.  Missing a year did not ruin the NHL; logically it would not ruin the NBA and thus my long-term investment would not be at great risk.

The players are well paid and who among us wants to take a cut in pay?  Thus it is natural for them to protest a hard cap and a reduction in what they make.  However, the concept of a cap is to budget expenditures while perhaps maintaining more balance between teams.  A soft cap is not really a cap but rather a guideline with loop holes.   

To spare us future angst, Commissioner Stern should draw a line in the sand, perhaps 50% of revenue and a hard cap, and if not agreed to by October 15 the season will not be played and the next negotiations will be held in January when the two sides will have had time to assess what life without the NBA really means.  

 


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