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No NBA labor deal, next meeting 'months' away?

Posted on: October 4, 2011 5:54 pm
Edited on: October 4, 2011 6:55 pm
Posted by Ben Gollivernba-lockout

The National Basketbal Association and the National Basketball Players Association met for more than four hours in New York City on Tuesday, in what had been hailed as the most important day of negotiations to date, and emerged aroung 5:30 p.m. without an agreement.

Ken Berger of reports that NBPA president Derek Fisher announced: "Intense discussions today ... today was not the day for us to get this done."

NBA commissioner David Stern said that the league's 2011-2012 schedule will be affected by the lack of progress in the negotiations: "Today we will be announcing the cancellation of the rest of the exhibition season and by Monday we will have no choice but to cancel the first two weeks of the season."

Fisher said no further meetings have yet been scheduled. The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that NBPA executive director Billy Hunter said it could be "a month or two months" before the next round of meetings.

Fisher said that the players offered to reduce their share of Basketball-Relate Income from 57 percent to 53 percent but were still unable to negotiate a deal that was "fair and amenable" to the players, as the owners reportedly offered only to increase their offer to the players from 46 percent to 47 percent. NBPA executive director Billy Hunter said the players' concessions amounted to more than $200 million per year. 

"We are employees and the NBA are the employers," Fisher said. "And they hold the key to when the lockout will be over."

Hunter said that, given the circumstances, the NBPA would reconsider the idea of decertification: "Clearly that's something we may have to give some thought to." While the players wait, reports that Hunter says the NBPA will set up and fund workout centers in Houston, Las Vegas and Los Angeles that will remain open until a labor agreement is reached.

Los Angeles Lakers guard Kobe Bryant, Boston Celtics forwards Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett, Detroit Pistons guard Ben Gordon, and NBPA board members Matt Bonner, Maurice Evans, Keyon Dooling, Theo Ratliff, and Roger Mason, Jr. were all in attendance at the press conference Tuesday.

This post will update with the latest on the NBA lockout.

Since: Oct 4, 2011
Posted on: October 4, 2011 7:12 pm

No NBA labor deal, next meeting 'months' away?

Wow, a whole four hours (or a bit more)!  They must be very serious and dedicated to ending this lockout.  NOT.  For crying out loud, JUST GET IT DONE.  I am sick of multimillionaires and billionaires fighting over $ and screwing the fans.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: October 4, 2011 7:11 pm

No NBA labor deal, next meeting 'months' away?

Derek Fisher is right- players are employees and the NBA are employers. That's a good start to gaining a clearer perspective of the situation.

Unfortunately, the players are already extremely well paid employees, and the "concessions" players were willing to give, fell about $100 million short of what the NBA lost last year, predominantly because of the salary structure the elite players and their agents are resistant to correct.... Players somehow still think that their "amenable" split of income should be more than the employers that ran the franchises, and lost money on their multi-million dollar investments, while the players are without risk.

Eventually, the owners, and the union, will come to the obvious conclusion that they will have to go on without the 2 dozen elite players and the union they duped into holding the true stakeholders of the NBA- owners, fans and the rank and file NBA players themselves, hostage.

These guys aren't fighting to preserve a pension and medical benefits for exploited mine workers here.   If the union decertifies, you can look at the NFL example that it isn't going to stop the league from continuing, and a "fair labor practice" lawsuit is going to be a tough sell when the average NBA player makes over $5 million a year, and the 80% of the teams are in the red.

It isn't an anyone's best interests for the league to go bankrupt trying to pacify the whims of a few undeservedly entitled players or even fewer billionaire owners willing to lose money on a hobby that demands more money than the market will bear. Competitve balance is a requirement for the league, and can't be achieved without a salary cap, or other structure that prevents unbalanced talent from pooling on just a few teams.

The players response just shows why they aren't cut out to be businessmen, and ultimately why owners had to take the stance they have, to try to correct their previous mistakes in overspending on such a shortsighted and unappreciative group of slumdog millionaires.   



Since: Aug 26, 2011
Posted on: October 4, 2011 7:10 pm

No NBA labor deal, next meeting 'months' away?

smiles all around.  I hope they cancel the entire season, this makes me smile.   Damn overpaid cry babies complaining they are only getting 20 million not 25.  You ant to make up the difference, then act as your own manager and agent...

Since: Oct 4, 2010
Posted on: October 4, 2011 7:10 pm

No NBA labor deal, next meeting 'months' away?

Someone said that the negotiations will pick up big time if the owners realize that the fan base may just SHRINK with this nonsense...
should be interesting to see what happens.

Since: Oct 4, 2010
Posted on: October 4, 2011 7:06 pm

No NBA labor deal, next meeting 'months' away?

I was replying to the LBJ comment..and it came up as a separate comment...hmm...see if it works the 2nd time around!

Since: Oct 4, 2010
Posted on: October 4, 2011 7:05 pm

No NBA labor deal, next meeting 'months' away?

Actually, that is pretty funny!!! Way to look at the silver lining!

Since: Sep 12, 2007
Posted on: October 4, 2011 6:59 pm

No NBA labor deal, next meeting 'months' away?

Wait!!!!  If there's no NBA season, then I won't get to watch or listen to "king" James!  Uh, who do I write the thank-you letter to????

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: October 4, 2011 6:45 pm

No NBA labor deal, all exhibition games cancelled

This is great news. The players better wake up. The NBA makers the players. Wade might be able to drag LeBron and Bosh around by the nose, but Daivid Stern will bite it off and shove it up his (|). Let's not forget folks, LeBron James AND Chris Bosh walked away and left money on the table so they could "play together". WHAT ? Now it's coming back to haunt the players and they are acting surprized ? Please. You made your bed through thier stupidity, now deal with it. It's NOT about the money if players just walk away and play for less to play together. Blame Bosh and James. Not the Owners.  

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: October 4, 2011 6:43 pm

No NBA labor deal, all exhibition games cancelled

I only wished the players realized that they are fighting to get 57% to 53% of a much smaller revenue. Of course, the big names will get alot by going overseas but the lesser players (the vast majority) will lose big time.

Since: Mar 2, 2008
Posted on: October 4, 2011 6:34 pm

No NBA labor deal, next meeting 'months' away?

Nothing is fantasy.  You are real and for all humanity knows you are the chosen one.  Flame on!!!

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