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Players meet Saturday to confirm position

Posted on: October 9, 2011 2:23 am
 
By Matt Moore

In another event in a sequence throughout the lockout that sounds like one thing and is really another, the NBPA canceled a Sunday regional meeting in Los Angeles. Immediately the questions began. "Does this mean they're meeting with the league? Is it a last-minute hail mary? Is there hope?" 

No, not so much, it was just more convenient for them to get their rabble rousing out of the way early.

Yahoo! Sports reports that the meeting was rescheduled because it was more convenient for the players already in Miami to hold it Saturday night.  After the meeting, Carmelo Anthony slammed the door shut on any sort of hopefulness that might have been brewing. From the AP: 
 
The way Anthony put it Saturday night, it almost seems inevitable."Theyre going to cancel the first two weeks of the season," Anthony said. "Well see what happens then. If they want to lock us out, lock us out. Were going to stick together."

The New York Knicks forward played in the South Florida All-Star Classic hosted by Heat stars LeBron James and Dwyane Wade in Miami, the latest - and most competitive - of the many exhibitions players have participated in during this lockout that reached the 100-day mark Saturday. NBA Commissioner David Stern has said that the first two weeks of the regular season could be canceled as early as Monday if a deal is not struck.

Anthony says it would not be "realistic" for the sides to agree on anything before then.
via Now what? After Miami game, players wait and see - NBA - CBSSports.com Basketball.

Yahoo! also reports that at the meeting, the players stuck to their guns regarding 53 percent of BRI being the lowest their willing to go, while no meetings were scheduled due to the league's insistence on a 50-50 split being a precursor to any further talks.  

So here we are. The trenches have been dug, both sides are settled in for the shelling, and Stern's finger is on the trigger. Barring a miracle, the first two weeks of the 2011-2012 NBA season will be canceled on Monday, costing the league, players, team cities, employees, local businesses and supporting industries millions of dollars, because the two sides won't even get in a room to discuss it.

Everyone's stopped trying to make sense out of the lockout, because you can't make sense out of something that's not driven by reasonable people. From the owners' childish insistences to the players' hyper-reactive defensiveness and clownish pouting, both sides have revealed themselves as more dedicated to "winning" this fight than getting a deal done. It's a business negotiation, and so it's cutthroat. But too often this has taken on the feel of the inmates running the asylum. The dogs are playing poker, and we hit the river.
 
If any meetings pop up in the next 24 hours we'll keep you updated and once the axe falls, we'll have complete reaction to that, too. The lockout drags on. 
Comments

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: October 9, 2011 10:32 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

Hard time to be an Illinois sports fan? Is everyone in Wisconsin as stupid as you are? I assume so. What about the Hawks? You know, the team that won the Cup in 2010 and is poised to do it again? And what about the Bulls? You know, the team that won 62 games and has the league MVP? The team that kicks the Bucks' teeth down their throats multiple times a year? And speaking of those Brewers, get a last look at that fat ass Fielder. He's leaving tracks out of your shitbird state this winter. And unless you suit up, drop the "we" from your tough guy internet act. YOU haven't won shit. You're a hillbilly loser from a farm town in Wisconsin. Go put a wedge of cheese on your head and roll your fat wife in flour until you find the wet spot, moron. But thank you for reminding us of Jordan. Those six rings look nice in the case. Enjoy basketball irrelevance in cowtown, farmboy.



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: October 9, 2011 10:29 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

Here's some thruth way over the players heads- The alternative to the exploitation of labor, is unemployment.

What it means is, if an employer isn't making money on their employees, they won't be working long.


If the players "win this fight", all but a few lose in the end.   &nbs
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Ultimately, it doesn't matter that players with guaranteed contracts believe owners should lose more money to pay them more, or if a few owners are willing to do so out of their own pockets as an expensive hobby, the league just can't support it much longer. The NBA can't function with only half a dozen solvent teams, and even if they could, that means about 350 players won't be needed anymore.


Owners need to get this one right, and fix the NBA so it has a future, instead of placating the ME NOW attitude that has been getting worse over the last decade or so. At some point, owners are going to have to open camps and go forward without players who refuse to cooperate. That means they have to end the lockout, and have a new CBA, or break the union and negotiate with individual players. I think fans could understand that, more than the unending stalled "negotiations" where
players without any understanding of the real problem simply refuse and call it "unity".     
      
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Since: Apr 7, 2010
Posted on: October 9, 2011 9:39 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

No surprise a chicago fan defends MJ.  Care to defend his gambling, affairs, or the fact he's running an NBA fanchise into the ground?  I know I know.  It's a hard time to be an Illinois sports fan.  The Packers, Badgers, and Brewers are all staring at championships and you guys have nothing ... not to mention the Packers have went into soldier field twice this year and dismantled that sorry squad of crybabies.  The part where we took the Halas trophy was gold.  Not sure what makes you think I like soccer.  I would rather watch that though then the product MJ puts on the court every year.



Since: May 29, 2008
Posted on: October 9, 2011 9:30 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

It's obvious if you're blaming MJ for this that you're not a student of the game and I'd suggest you stick to soccer.



Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: October 9, 2011 9:21 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

The NBA stinks anyways.  College hoops is much better and they actually play defense.  Maybe they should start a scab league, pick up all the guys looking for a job and start a league.  Pay them a decient wage, drop ticket prices alot, charge $1 hot dogs $3 beans for a beer.  Fans will show up just to drink beer and watch some games that will seem like college hoops and guys playing hard to keep their jobs!



Since: Apr 7, 2010
Posted on: October 9, 2011 9:11 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

Who F-ing Cares.  The NBA is worthless.  The reason the owners are losing so much money every year is because nobody has any interest in what they see on the court.  The players seem to forget this and ignore the fact that they just arent putting a good product on the court.  The world doesn't want to watch blacktop ball.  It's become a sad display of 'clear out and let me take this fool one on one'.  It's not a team game anymore and we all have Michael Jordan to thank for ushering in this new era.  He made it cool to ignore the art of the pass.

The owners aren't going to settle on a number that continues to bury their balance sheets in the red.  Until the players understand simple math this deal will continue to stay in the pouting stage.




Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 9, 2011 8:59 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

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Since: May 23, 2007
Posted on: October 9, 2011 8:31 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

Big differnce in todays world EM...back in the "god ol' days" of competitivive inbalance most teams could field a lower quality (ie, lower salaried) team at a time when the revenues coming in stil far outpaced the salaries bieng paid, and rely on the power teams of the NBA rolling through town to sell out the arena 10-15 times a year and being their cash cows.  

So let me get this right?  you dont awant parity becasue there's never been parity???? makwes no sense...maybe if there was 22 teams n the league wouldnt be under water with there teams. 



Since: Aug 1, 2011
Posted on: October 9, 2011 8:21 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

The way Anthony put it Saturday night, it almost seems inevitable."Theyre going to cancel the first two weeks of the season," Anthony said. "    
Correction, Anthony, WE are going to cancel the first two weeks.   The players are equally culpable for the path this negotiation is taking.  And as far as wanting parity, yes, anyone who is a fan of the game has to be disgusted by the antics of James, Anthony and the crap that went on last season.    NBA teams are valued around $350M or so and that's was not the case 10 years ago.    No sane business owner would make that kind of investment and not want an equal opportunity to win it all.   The NBA system needs to be totally revamped.   Chances are that won't happen this year but maybe some headway will be made.



Since: Nov 16, 2008
Posted on: October 9, 2011 8:13 am
 

Players meet Saturday to confirm position

If the season is cancelled, good. I have always disliked the NBA because over the last few decades, the players seem to be a bunch of potty-mouthed thugs high on dope....and the owners are the most clueless lot of people since the US Congress, willingly throwing god money after bad....

That rant aside, the posturing by both sides DOES seem absurdly silly, given current economic realiities...and of course you have the leeches (agents) making things worse...

The sad thing is, the players union needs to look out for the guys whose NBA job security isnt that great...the bench players....instead they seem to be caving in to the superstars who in theory, should never have to worry about going broke with the absurd pay they get....

And the owners?  well, given how some of them run their teams, it is a wonder how they got the money to be owners to begin with!




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