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NBA Lockout talks break down

Posted on: October 20, 2011 7:39 pm
Edited on: October 20, 2011 8:40 pm
 
By Matt Moore

In short, nearly the worst kind of news. The NBA and NBPA met for another long mediated session Thursday. The result? At around 7:35 EST Adam Silver and Peter Holt held a press conference to announce that talks have broken down and no further meetings are scheduled. 

Silver would not confirm any further cancelations of games, but the mood is extremely grim.

NBA LOCKOUT

Silver did confirm that the issue that lead to the breakdown between the owners and union was back to BRI. There had been a significant amount of talk about the issues being systemic issues, particularly the luxury tax and revenue sharing. Silver revealed that the union had lowered its offer to 52.5 percent of BRI, with the owners holding the line at 50/50, still.

Ken Berger reported Monday that the owners' 50/50 offer was back to a 49-51 range.  The question is whether the concessions made in the systemic issues pushed the players back to a flat 50/50. Silver also said that the two sides were "far apart" on systemic issues.

Silver told reporters that the players in essence wanted a trade-off. In essence, if the players were conceding on BRI, they wanted more from the systemic issues.



Spurs owner Peter Holt said that at this point, both sides felt "stuck" and that both sides had been "negotiating a long time." Holt said that one reason for the talks to end was due to fatigue, saying "both sides have been negotiating for a long time." 

With the gap down to 1.5 percent, $100 million as estimated by CBSSports.com's Ken Berger for the 2010-2011, you would think that splitting the difference now more than ever would be a likelihood, particularly with mediation from George Cohen. But Silver revealed that the NBA is looking for a 10-year deal, which would make the 1.5 differential $1 billion. Silver and Holt both reiterated that 50 percent is the absolute figure they're willing to go "today" in the words of Holt.
Comments

Since: Apr 5, 2009
Posted on: October 20, 2011 9:05 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

"not all high school basketball players are going to college for an education"?
Are you serious? That is exactly the problem, these kids get a pass on education through high school because they are the best players. Than go to play ball in college and dont even finish or get passed because they play sports. When they come out they have no chance to succeed in life. Not every college or high school athlete will go on to play in the NBA or the D-league or even Europe. If they did focus on their education and they didnt go pro on some level they would have their education and degree to fall back on. Also those scholarships wouldnt be wasted on people who dont want and education. If they cancelled the whole NBA season would anyone really care?




Since: Oct 9, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:55 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

This is great!  When the idiot players have to start selling one of the 3 houses, 4 cars and the thousands of dollars in child support start shrinking thier bloated checking accounts, they will go back to the owners and not only take the 50/50 split, but the owners could put the hard cap back into play and it would get accepted.  The NBA is going through the same struggles the NHL sacrificed a season over.  A hard cap may seem like a disadvantage to the players but the NFL example is one everyone should be following.  The cap puts all teams at a level playing field, which creates better competition and creates a better product to sell, which means more TV revenue.  I'm willing to bet the owners would even agree to guarantee contracts as long as thier was a hard cap.  But the players keep listening to thier agents, who are only after their undeserved piece of the pie.  Hold the line owners, I'm willing to sacrifice a season of basketball if it means competitive balance and a better overall product.  Like players that can play defense without mugging another player, or hit an 18 foot jumper, or drive to the basket without jaywalking through the lane.



Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:51 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

laughing at all of the rookies that left school early for the NBA draft. Tongue out



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:50 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

Thank goodness.  We can focus on real basketball....as in college basketball.  Wouldn't it be cool if the NBA folded and college athletes stayed in school for 4 years.
I am all for the college athletes staying in school for 4 years, but there are lot of college athletes that want to play in the NBA. Take away the NBA will also take away the reason they went to college in the first place, not all high school basketball players are going to college for a education.



Since: Sep 28, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:46 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

Yawn...nothing to see here. 



Since: Oct 24, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:44 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

Basically the players are screwed because like Patrick Ewing said, "We make a lot of money but we spend a lot of money." When the checks stop flowing and the players default on their child support and strip clubs go under because players cant make it rain anymore. They will cave.  College basketball is a much better product anyway. They will learn while they think they are as popular as baseball and football, they are not. it will hurt them at the gates and with merchandise. Oh well they can always protest wall street.



Since: Jun 27, 2011
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:38 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

I'm all for another year that LeBron doesn't win a championship.



Since: Jan 16, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:35 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

Thank goodness.  We can focus on real basketball....as in college basketball.  Wouldn't it be cool if the NBA folded and college athletes stayed in school for 4 years.



Since: Jun 18, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:24 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

This is the best news I've heard in a long time. 



Since: Feb 3, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 8:17 pm
 

NBA Lockout talks break down

I to won't miss these spoiled brats playing a sport to support thier lucious lives they live. It would'nt bother me one bit if they ever play again. The salaries of these cry babies have gotten way out of hand and now the owners simply can't afford to pay them. One could argue that it is the owners fault to sign them to these contracts but if they didn't some body else would. And I think that is one of the major issues.


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