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Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

Posted on: October 24, 2011 1:17 pm
Edited on: October 24, 2011 1:18 pm
Posted by Royce Young

The players seem to be going on the offensive right now. Raja Bell said David Stern rules with an iron fist, Chris Paul made a point to say players aren't greedy and now, Tyson Chandler is comparing the league and its owners to dictators. Not quite as bad as "plantation overseer" but it's a strong way of putting it for sure. As he told ESPN Radio:
"It’s unfair to the players, it’s unfair to the fans because it’s only going to lead to a longer lockout. A negotiation is a negotiation, and that’s the way it should be, but this is more dictators than anything, and I don’t feel this is going as a negotiation.”
That seems to be the popular opinion around the players right now -- the owners aren't negotiating in good faith to get a deal done. Billy Hunter has said multiple times that David Stern told him to prepare for this two years ago. And now, here it is with the owners holding a lock and key over the league in order to get a better deal.

I assume Chandler is meaning to say that the owners are basically telling the players what kind of deal to take instead of actually negotiating with a back and forth. Which is definitely as it seems from the outside. The players have made a number of concessions but it hasn't been good enough for the owners. Coming down from 57 to as low as 52.5, but the owners wouldn't budge from their numbers, only coming "up" to a 50-50 split. So you can understand the players' frustration.

Chandler was asked about the players lacking leveraged -- i.e. decertification -- in these negotiations.
“Well we are the product, and I’ve said from the get go, if the owners want to take that spin than we should take the lockout. The owners, you can’t find any other players like we have in the NBA. You’re not going to find them overseas, you’re not going to find them in college, you’re not going to find them anywhere else. We have the Kobes, the LeBrons, the Durants, Dwight Howard, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Derek Rose, Blake Griffin — those guys are selling out your arenas night in and night out. There’s a reason the Clippers draw the attendance that they do — it’s because of Blake Griffin. He’s putting the money in the owners pocket.

And those guys that are making money, they don’t want to lockout, they don’t want to see this thing drag on. But there are owners in the other cities that aren’t making money, I understand that, and so that’s the reason that we’ve came back so that those owners can at least break even. Now if you put a better product on the floor and you go out in free agency and make some hits and make a splash, then your team will get exciting again and you’ll get some attention and people will start going to your games. But ultimately the players are the product.”
It's true. The players are the product. But the owners are the ones writing the checks, so it's not like they have a say in their business.

Hence our stalemate.

Since: Sep 28, 2011
Posted on: October 25, 2011 11:21 pm

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

"that's the reason that we've came back so that those owners can atleast break even" noble of you T-bone. That might be the dumbest thing said during this whole drawn out process. Owners shouldn't have to hope to atleast break even. There is not one owner of any company in the world that is going to be willing to pay millions and millions of guranteed dollars to their employees while they sit back and hope for the best. It's business 101. The majority of these players have a 6th grade education and the intelligence of a retarted carrot to understand anything other than what their boys are telling them. "Yo dog, you deserve that are the NBA son, you better get payed and stop letting those owners who direct deposit millions of dollars in to your bank account every year treat you like a slave".  My god already, give me a break. The owners OWN the teams, you work FOR them, you are compensated extremely well, what they make is of no concern of yours, quit your f@cking crying and go back to work(i use that word very loosely). I just want it to end. I can't take these greedy players kicking and screaming like babies ever day on T.V because by giving in to the owners, they won't be able to add an addition on their 5th homes 20 car garage.

Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: October 25, 2011 10:34 am

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

@balrog01 I understand your point.  My point is that people are so quick to put it back on the players as if they havent already given a large portion of money back to the owners(who by the way signed these same players to these same contracts that they claim is killing them financially).  Calling the players greedy when they are willingly accepting losses is asinine.  No one, across the board from casual fan to NBA expert, can point out anything the owners have actually given up in these talks.  The players are standing firm with what they view as an acceptable loss(anywhere from 2-16% depending on your level of play from bench guy to superstar).  As far as your comment about being paid 1/4 of 1 year of Kobe's contract, thats a viable thought for the common fan.  The issue with that is, Kobe raises hundreds of millions in endoresements for your arena's and sells your jerseys(of which he recieves nothing from as thats not calculated into BRI) so with those same superstars, they are technically "underpaid" in terms of what they actually bring to your franchise value.  Take Cleveland for example, Every game sold out, jerseys flying off the shelves, tv revenue and advertising dollars through the roof, 97% of all of that(other than ticket sales) was not counted under BRI.  Those people came to see Lebron and paid hundreds of millions for Lebron.  He left and Dan Gilbert is losing money(outside of BRI) because no one cares about the Cavs anymore.  Please dont believe these owners are only making their money off of BRI, its only roughly about 10-30% of their total revenue depending on if they are complete owners or partial owners of the arena's. 

Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: October 25, 2011 9:50 am

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

Sorry players but this type of talk does not help your cause.  I don't sympathize with either players or owners, in fact, I'm rather bored of both, however, when you start to make these kinds of attacks, you just look and sound stupid.

Since: May 29, 2010
Posted on: October 25, 2011 7:03 am

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

Like children, athletes should be seen, not heard.

Since: Feb 11, 2008
Posted on: October 25, 2011 12:23 am

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

It is a little bit different when your company can't go on without you on the job.  I'm sure it would have no trouble without you there.  There is no NBA w/out the players.

Since: Aug 20, 2008
Posted on: October 24, 2011 7:57 pm

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

Anything Tyson Chandler says I just take as stupid. Amazing he says owners are dictators when he just magicly sits down in certain situations.

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: October 24, 2011 7:52 pm

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

So, Royce, you are buying the spin? Do you think dictators offer their people an average of $4.2M per year? Do you think that the owners are greedy for wanting to exceed 49% (break-even point)? Do you think that the product of General Motors is the Auto Union members? Do you think that the product of the sing-off is the performers? Clue to the players - the last contract was extraordinarily bad for the owners. They ponied up $1.8B in losses they had to contribute to keep the league solvent. This is 'the great recession', or don't you know any of the 20 million unemployed or underemployed in the country? Come to think of it I suppose the players don't know any of us. They are too protected in their multi-million dollar mansions and driving their exotic sports cars to notice the Hondas and Fords in their midst.

The long-term health of the NBA is dependent on providing a return on investment for the owners. They each have an average of $356M at risk here with a negative return for the last six years - at least all but 7 or 8 of them. Revenue sharing helps equity among the owners but if labor costs exceed break-even as a whole for the NBA, then no revenue sharing will help solve the problem. And then there is the whole issue of making each team competitive which the players have called a 'blood issue' and refused to yield. A cap on spending is essential to allow the small-market teams to compete. Nothing Tyler Chandler says is credible here. He earned $12.5M last year (his sixth in a row above $9M) and he calls the owners who paid him that dictators. Wow.

Since: Aug 1, 2011
Posted on: October 24, 2011 7:26 pm

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

This lockout certainly has exposed the child-like behaviors and attitudes of some players.

Since: Apr 14, 2011
Posted on: October 24, 2011 6:19 pm

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

It takes two sides to have a bad marriage.  The players are not harmless in this situation.  The owners are greedy SOBs and the players are also greedy SOBs.  Neither side looks very good here, but when the players start moving their lips and use terms like "dictator", "slavery", and "we just wanna play" they just sound like bitchy cry babies.  The owners are smart not to respond and stay focused on the negotiations instead of the brewing sideshow.  That said, if the players continue with the sideshow, it just shows that they are feeling the pinch of no scratch to spend.  The players should bring in someone to help them avoid having a bad reputation in this negotiation.  The players need to condition themselves that it is not personal and the owners just want money.  The owners do not care how the public feels about them as long as they get their money.

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: October 24, 2011 5:52 pm

Tyson Chandler compares NBA owners to 'dictators'

reds fan...I tried to give you 5 stars but this dumb iPad failed me. Great comments, spot on. Meanwhile the NFL continues raking in the revenue at the expense of the NBA. By December the NBA will long be forgotten.

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