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A new CBA is actually really close

Posted on: October 30, 2011 10:06 am
 
Posted by Royce Young

We're all disappointed. We're all upset. Even maybe a little angry.

With all that positive momentum heading into Friday's labor negotiations, there was a legitimate expectation that David Stern and Billy Hunter would emerge ready to announce a deal.

That didn't happen. And with no new talks scheduled, the rest of November's games were canceled and it felt like everything reset and it's back to the drawing board.

Not so fast though. There's been movement -- lots of it, in fact -- and in reality, they aren't quite so far off from putting pen to paper on a new collective bargaining agreement. Via the New York Times:
The new N.B.A. labor deal is practically done. You wouldn’t know it from the headlines, the dour news conferences or the apocalyptic rhetoric spilling from league officials. But the deal, in practical terms, is about 95 percent complete.

The N.B.A. and the players union have agreed on contract lengths and luxury-tax rates, trade rules and cap exceptions, and a host of oddly named provisions offering “amnesty” and “stretch payments” and less onerous “base-year” rules.

All of these pieces — some favoring the players, most of them favoring the owners — have fallen into place in recent weeks, even as talks collapsed and restarted and collapsed again. The checklist has been reduced to a few items.

But it is the last 5 percent that is ruining the prospects for labor peace and gradually eroding the N.B.A. season.

Use any metaphor you like -- ball's on the two-yard line, it's the fourth quarter, bases loaded... whatever -- but the deal is right there. It's so close, but at the same time truly does feel so far away. Basketball Related Income has hung everything up once again and with both sides seeming to be completely dug in -- for now -- into their positions, it just doesn't feel like a deal is close to happening. 

But consider the agreements that are tentatively in place, according to the report:

  • Luxury tax: The new system will charge teams $1.50 for every dollar over the threshold, which replaces the dollar-for-dollar setup in the last CBA. But the tax even goes to $1.75 after $5 million, $2.25 after $10 million and $3 after $15 million.
  • Contract lengths: Players with Bird Rights get to have a five-year max deal, while everyone else gets four-year max deals. The last CBA was six years for Bird Rights and five for everyone else.
  • Raises: Annual raises get reduced by "several" percent, going as low as possibly just 5 percent for Bird players and 3.5 for everyone else. The last deal had raises as high as 10.5 for Bird players and 8 percent for other players.
  • The Mid-level exception: It starts at $5 million, which is a mild decrese of $800,000. Length of contract and raises are still being discussed.
  • Amnesty clause: As Ken Berger of CBSSports.com has reported, a new amnesty clause will be in the new CBA, allowing teams to waive one player at anytime during the life of the new CBA. You still have to pay the players but his salary won't count against the cap and luxury tax. But here's a catch: It can't be used on anyone signed before July 1, 2011. So all that talk about who you'd amnesty would change quite a bit because those players aren't eligible.
  • Stretch exception: Teams will be allowed to extend out payments to players that have been waived to spread out the cap hit over several season.

A few issues still remain such as the league wants to punish tax-paying teams by denying them the mid-level exception and sign-and-trade deals as well as additional penalties for "repeat offenders."

By the sounds of it, at least to me, the players are bending quite a bit on this new system. It's still pretty favorable to them, especially when you consider that initially the owners wanted a hard cap, but all the concessions are coming from the players, at least compared to the last CBA. So it's understandable why they feel they need to take a stand at 53 percent BRI.

But all that wasn't there a week ago. Real, tangible progress has been made towards a deal. They're close. It's just about finishing. Time to get clutch. Someone step up and hit a big shot.

Category: NBA
Comments

Since: Mar 30, 2008
Posted on: October 30, 2011 4:34 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

We are not disappointed. We are not upset. We are not a little angry.   The NBA lock as no effect on our lives.  The lock out saves us money and allows us to spend our time doing more productive activities.  It is time to cancelled the NBA season and set a date for tryouts for next year.  I will not be watching the NBA anytime soon.  I can not support multi millionars slaves who have a hard time feeding their families.  Completely turned off.  




Since: Oct 10, 2011
Posted on: October 30, 2011 4:30 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

Who cares? - Only Dorks watch NBA!



Since: Apr 8, 2007
Posted on: October 30, 2011 3:24 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

I feel like saying a deal is 95% done with BRI still out there is like losing 19 pennies and a twenty dollar bill, then saying you found 95% of your stuff after recovering the pennies. Sure you technically found 95% of the items you lost, but the really really big one is the one you can't find so it feels like you haven't found anything.



Since: May 29, 2011
Posted on: October 30, 2011 3:05 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

I  am with JUSTJOE he is right about it all , who well mess the NBA for a year  



Since: Jan 2, 2011
Posted on: October 30, 2011 2:33 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

I think that this is a mute point. The nba is a 4th rate business, sorry people..but it is. Nobody will really miss it, it goes on too long and there far too many meaningless games . It like when the nhl went out...nobody missed it buy hard core...Baseball and football mater..the nba is an after thought. Plus with the thug factor, most people want it cleaned up. ...Stay out stern, we will love ya for it.



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: October 30, 2011 1:59 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

WHO CARES!!!!
The NBA sucks.  I wish they would never come to an agreement.
Since you don't like the NBA so much, the question should be why are you even reading a NBA article. You should know some time in the future that the NBA will come to agreement with the players, The NBA don't want to lose too much money and fans.



Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: October 30, 2011 1:32 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

"We're all disappointed. We're all upset. Even maybe a little angry."

>Actually most of us really didn't care. As long as the college game comes on, our thirst for basketball will be satisfied.
 Don't speak for all of us now, your opinion is your opinion solely, and that is it. If you didn't care you wouldn't be commenting. Watching college ball is like watching the AHL instead of the NHL, it's a great game..but it's not the best basketball on the planet....and on top of that, you have the odd stud on a college team...where as the NBA you may have multiple first rounders playing on one team. After that amazing playoff and season last year, I can't see how anyone isn't looking forward to a season this year.....On top of that college basketball is a lot like college football, it's a Saturday thing..... for me personally, I like to watch sports everyday, not once a week.



Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: October 30, 2011 1:28 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

As long as it's still possible for players to sign for tens of millions of dollars and subsequently put on 30 pounds of fat and sit on the end of the bench, the NBA's still broken.  

As long as teams can make two or three bad decisions and, as a result, be relegated to lottery hopelessness for a decade, the NBA's still broken.

As long as refs continue to cater to home crowds and superstars, the NBA's still broken.

I don't think David Stern understands -- or perhaps even cares about -- the level of dissatisfaction among lifelong NBA fans like me.  I think he looks at the league's numbers (sales, revenue, attendance, etc) and couldn't care less whether its customers are knowledgeable lifers like me, or dopey pink-hats who just likes the dunks and tattoos.

The NBA's going to continue to suck until David Stern is replaced.  
How do ref's cater to home crowds?

How does the NBA "suck"? why would millions of people attend games and watch on TV all around the world if the game sucks?

Who wears "dopey pink hats" ?

who are these guys you say gaining weight?? Eddy Curry comes to mind, but that's it.

Are you a fan of badly managed team? If any team is bad, it's due to bad management, bad free agent signings and bad draft picks...no need to lay blame on others for a teams mistakes. I mean look at Memphis, look at Oklahoma City.

If someone signs a player for "tens of millions" and they don't perform, it's ownerships and the GM's fault for investing in that player, it's not the leagues fault. 

For example, I am a Raptors fan... we let go of Vince Carter for next to nothing, lost Camby,McGrady,Stoudamire and Bosh... it was due to bad managment, not because the system is broken. If people think the NBA is broken, then the MLB must be a collossal failure in your eyes... you have guys being paid 30 million a season to do nothing. 




Anyways, this is just bargaining...there not going to come out and say a deal is done, or almost done, even if behind closed doors they are inching closer to one. They don't just meet for 20 + hours to accomplish nothing, they are getting things done. If anyone doesn't like the NBA, then don't watch it, don't support it. 



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: October 30, 2011 1:26 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

"We're all disappointed. We're all upset. Even maybe a little angry."

>Actually most of us really didn't care. As long as the college game comes on, our thirst for basketball will be satisfied.



Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: October 30, 2011 1:19 pm
 

A new CBA is actually really close

As long as it's still possible for players to sign for tens of millions of dollars and subsequently put on 30 pounds of fat and sit on the end of the bench, the NBA's still broken.  

As long as teams can make two or three bad decisions and, as a result, be relegated to lottery hopelessness for a decade, the NBA's still broken.

As long as refs continue to cater to home crowds and superstars, the NBA's still broken.

I don't think David Stern understands -- or perhaps even cares about -- the level of dissatisfaction among lifelong NBA fans like me.  I think he looks at the league's numbers (sales, revenue, attendance, etc) and couldn't care less whether its customers are knowledgeable lifers like me, or dopey pink-hats who just likes the dunks and tattoos.

The NBA's going to continue to suck until David Stern is replaced.  

 


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