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Labor talks set for Wednesday in New York, 1 p.m.

Posted on: November 9, 2011 10:12 am
Edited on: November 9, 2011 12:19 pm
By Matt Moore 

Ken Berger of reports that players and league officials are close to arranging a meeting for Wednesday at 1 p.m. in New York, with a league-imposed deadline that could spell the end of the season looming at the end of the day. The meeting is reportedly only a small group, which has resulted in progress in the talks in other meetings.

Tuesday, the NBPA met and afterwards described the current offer from the league, which expires at the close of business in less than seven hours, as "unacceptable." After the close of business, the league's offer will revert back to a flex-cap offer that eliminates guaranteed contracts, takes years off of contract max-lengths and generally sends the players' strength back to the stone age. During the press conference after the NBPA meeting, Billy Hunter said he wanted to meet with the league. David Stern responded by saying he would always take Hunter's call, and would discuss it with the NBA's Labor Relations Committee, but would not commit to a meeting.

Hard-line owners don't necessarily want a meeting, feeling they have already surrendered too much in negotiations.  Meanwhile, the players have intimated they're willing to drop to 50/50 if certain system concessions are granted. Unfortunately, the owners consider "concessions" to be defined by "letting the world have a proffessional basketball league" and "not going after the players' houses and personal possessions." 

If a deal isn't made at the meeting, and the NBA decides to follow through on its threat, the NBPA is set to immediately file a petition to decertify (Paul Pierce has told Billy Hunter he has close to 200 signatures at this point), kicking off the legal process. That would pretty much destroy any chance of a season, though the two sides could continue to negotiate through the 45-day waiting period until the NLRB rules on the petition to set up a vote. 

The onus is on the NBA to take a meeting and accept the concessions from the players while offering them some sort of bone to save the season. Otherwise they're electing to own a professional basketball league that doesn't actually play basketball for another year, possibly more.

No pressure, guys. Really. Take your time.

Since: Oct 4, 2009
Posted on: November 9, 2011 2:19 pm

Labor talks set for Wednesday in New York, 1 p.m.

i hate to see it come to this as an NBA fan I wish the NBPA had sold the 50-50 harder. it is obvious the owners appear more unified than the players right now. The league may be doing damage that will be very hard to recover from.

Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 12:35 pm

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Get a life NBA fans.  Basketball is entertainment; overpriced entertainment that leads to escapism and voyeurism. Come back to reality and look at all sides of the issue.  The owners invest much money, time and talent into the business, subsequently they deserve the rewards (or losses) of that business.  Players invest time and talent but no money and therefore are compensated with extravagant salaries, endorsement remuneration, contracts and perquisites. There is no other business in the world that pays employees anywhere near 57% of the profits. Fans invest time and some money for tickets, parking and treats.  They receive entertainment for that contribution. But, there are other forms of entertainment. If the NBA does not operate this year it might be wise to pursue some other entertainment. Choose one, anyone.  You may even find something that is productive

Since: Jan 20, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 12:24 pm

Labor talks set for Wednesday in New York, 1 p.m.

Excellent post Steve, I agree and would love to see the same.

Since: Apr 25, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:59 am

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Lets hope Stern and the Owners stand firm - they were the league that started this "percentage of revenues" garbage.  The owners OWN the teams and OWN the league and the notion that they get anything less than 75% of league revenues is ridiculous to me.  They should crush the union - end all guaranteed contracts - get rid of the anchors around the teams necks.

Since: Apr 29, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:54 am

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Their need to be a overall change from the top in addtion to the concessions. Stern needs to step down with his buddy Stu Jackson. Officiating needst to be rehauled. Parity needs to exist and Preferential treatment to the stars needs to be curbed. Make the NBA a team sport again so the cities can appreciate and cheer for their team without a doubt of the referees fixing the games! NBA isn't missed but fan loyalty will be if those demands aren't met....Too bad our voices will never be heard or considered only our entertainment dollars.

Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:44 am

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If Fisher and Hunter keep egos out of this they will realize that their role now is to meet with the Commissioner, tweak the existing offer- just some minor changes so they can go back to the players and say "look we got something- maybe the exception or maybe one of the other contentious issues that are not terribly costly.

Then they SHOULD allow the players to (1) inform themselves: read the deal cover to cover or get someone to walk them through it (maybe Fisher but not a greedy lawyer) (2) Vote on it after a few days of soul searching. Then no matter what happens, the players are united again.

I think the rich players are being greedy. They want the freedom to continue stacking teams and playing whereever they choose. It makes for 24 lousy teams and that is one of the issues the hard line owners are fighting for. As it stands, you will never see a Howard, Bosh, Wade, Kobe, Paul, D Will or other superstar in Charlotte or Milwaukee. That will change if the new contract stops players from stacking a few teams.

I look forward to that NBA.

Since: Nov 9, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 11:44 am
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Since: Sep 27, 2006
Posted on: November 9, 2011 10:51 am

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I am hoping they don't get the deal done and the seaon is cancelled.  I just want to see what it's like for the NBA players to go a full year (probably more) without a check.  It would be cool to see those cocky peacocks walking around in the same type of clothes I wear.  If the deal is done, I hope the fans stay away from the arenas for a year.  That would fix the problem going forward.

Since: Jan 8, 2011
Posted on: November 9, 2011 10:51 am

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OWNERS........ dont give in . without you they wouldnt have anything. FIRE them all and start over, maybe then basketball would be better.

Since: Jun 6, 2008
Posted on: November 9, 2011 10:51 am

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I've heard the players say they won't cave?  HA!  Waite til all those married players wives start bitchin they can't go shopping.  Thats probably already starting to happen.  If there isn't a season this year, they won't be able to afford to play next because if individual season ticket holder are like me, I'm not renewing to send the players the message, I won't miss it and you are over paid.  I know the company I work for has already announced it will not be renewing its season tickets this year or next for the same reason.  Sorry NBA, you aren't as popular as you think you are.

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