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Granger: Blame David Stern for damage to NBA

Posted on: November 18, 2011 7:02 pm
Edited on: November 18, 2011 9:19 pm
 
Posted by Ben Golliverdanny-granger-small

We're well into the fifth month of the the NBA lockout with no end in sight. If you're not blaming NBA commissioner David Stern by now, either your name is Adam Silver or you just don't care about American professional basketball.

You can add Indiana Pacers forward Danny Granger to the long, long, long list of people who believe Stern is responsible for causing harm to his own league by mishandling the ongoing labor negotiations.

In an interview with NBC SportsTalk, Granger, formerly the Pacers' player representative to the union, points the finger squarely at Stern.
"Definitely let a little upset about it. David Stern, to his credit, he has grown the NBA. But as far as with the negotiations and where they have went in the last six or eight months, I don't think he's done a good job of conveying to the owners what's the most important thing for an NBA team, for an NBA season. And, for the NBA as a whole organization, the lockout has really damaged the game. How much, I don't think we know yet, but we'll find out. As commissioner, I just don't think he should have let it get that far, to the point where it is right now." 
As commissioner, Stern is paid to take these lumps. Granger's criticism is more than fair, and it represents a sentiment that's surely shared by thousands of fans across the country. Stern is the boss, this is going down on his watch, and the buck stops with him. He is expected to be the answer, not part of the problem. 

Granger makes a key assumption though. His statements imply that Stern had the power and influence over a majority of the league's owners to save a full 82-game season if he simply put his mind to it or thought that approach was prudent. We would all assume, from a distance, that a league's commissioner would want his league to play its scheduled games, but the more we learn about the hard-line ownership contingent the more we realize that overhauling the league's financial system is a much higher priority than saving an 82-game season and, potentially, even playing a season at all this year.  

It's quite possible that Stern wants games just as badly as Granger. It's quite possible that he fears the potential damage to the league even more than Granger does. So if we are going to blame Stern, let's blame him for the right reasons. 

Let's blame him for reportedly making promises of profitability to owners that recently bought into the league. Let's blame him for agreeing to the last collective bargaining agreement which allegedly created a league that couldn't produce profits despite record revenues. Let's blame him for being unable to build and hold a consensus among his owners. Let's blame him for still failing to communicate the league's revenue sharing goals and philosophies clearly. Let's blame him for ratcheting up the ugly rhetoric. Let's blame him for waging a personal war of words with union lawyer Jeffrey Kessler. Let's blame him for delaying the beginning of true negotiations until way too late in the game. Let's blame him for calling in sick earlier this fall on a day when negotiations blew up. Let's blame him for each and every ultimatum and threat he's made. Let's blame him for making offers and then taking them off the table. Let's blame him for trying to shift the blame to agents. Let's blame him for repeatedly talking down to the players.

But let's stop short of blaming him alone for the damage that is being done to the NBA. For sure, there is blood on his hands, lots of it. But this has spun out of his control; he can't solve this by himself. In the end, let's settle for blaming him for not swallowing his immense pride right now so that he can proactively do his part to fashion a solution. There's still time, after all, to make the damage done to the league a thing of the past.
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Since: Jul 11, 2009
Posted on: November 21, 2011 12:52 am
 

Granger: Blame David Stern for damage to NBA



The NBA has blown up in David Stern's face.  A Master and Commander no more.  Stern played hardball and failed.  Players do have options and they are getting paid to play basketball elsewhere.  In a matter of a few weeks there will be multiple siginings of NBA elite players to play outside of the NBA.  Once gone, who knows, those players might not want to come back?!  Owners will be watching their once prized possessions on TV wearing another team's colors, getting paid and spirited new fans cheering for them.  And guess what?  NBA franchises will decrease in value by millions.  Your time has come and gone Mr. Stern.  Take a hike.  Done!      



Since: Jun 13, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 1:48 pm
 

Granger: Blame David Stern for damage to NBA

David Stern should be pilloried.

David Stern has acted alone in trying to destroy professional basketball.  Nobody else but David Stern has sabotaged the NBA, damaged the association beyond repair and for good measure he is responsibile for the failing world economy.  Devil Stern or David Satan is wholly responsible for the complete failure of these doomed NBA CBA negotations and the former NBPA are just willing underpaid plebes who only want to play basketball for their our enjoyment.  We are all responsible for the impasse of these talks.  We the U.S. Americans should help out where we can.  We should be draining our retirements and giving our savings to the NBA to keep it afloat.  If the president of our country wants basketball, we should pay extra taxes to keep the games going.  After all, what is more important:  helping our larger masses of unemployed folks with families to feed and mortgages to pay, finding a cure for cancer or keeping the NBA alive?  The choice is pretty obvious to me.

 

By all means, YES, we should blame David Stern for our decaying infrastructure, growing obesity epidemic, high gas prices, plummeting 401k account values, rising teenage pregnancy and poor math scores.  However, it is clearly the fault of one David Stern that millionaires cannot make more millions and billionaires cannot make more billions.

As long as we can continue to abuse David Stern in print, bandwidth and satellite transmissions, David Stern, the one and only man who can be rightfully blamed for all our problems and failures, everyone can feel good about themselves.  Everyone, for except for me.
Go away NBA and take your reporters to the trash compactor. 



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 19, 2011 1:35 pm
 

Granger: Blame David Stern for damage to NBA

Bankruptcy and the end ot the NBA is far more favorable to Ben and Danny than submitting to an offer from the league that only loses $34 million per year. Sure blame Stern since you don't seem to have a clue about corporate finance and the ramifications of continuing to lose money after six consecutive years of a cumulative $1.8 billion in losses. I will attempt to explain.

Banks lend money. Occupy Wall Street wants you to know banks make money, big money. How do they do that? By lending to good credit risks and charging interest on those loans. But is an organization a good credit risk which has lost big money for six consecutive years? Would you lend money under those circumstances while knowing it will be at least another six to ten years before there is any opportunity for the borrower to make profits? If you think this is fine you are either the current Secretary of the Treasury or the previous Secretary of the Treasury. Cue occupy Wall Street.

This is not about David Stern. This is about getting league finances in order. It is also about restoring competitive balance so that more than nine teams can win a championship over the next thirty years. What do you say, Indiana? Believe your star and know you will never see a conference final? Or believe Stern who wants you to compete for one. I don't say anything about Danny Granger's basketball skills because he is the professional and not me. I say phooy to his financial skills and understanding of the NBA CBA negotiations because I am a professional and he is not. Now Ben can write - oh, can he write. He can write so well you would stay and read it on a bathroom stall. This piece maybe belongs there too.


DONT FOOL YOURSELF. IF YOU GIVE 100 MILLION DOLLARS TO BENCH PLAYERS THEN YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO LOSE MONEY. THESE NBA OWNERS WANT A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD FOR ALL THE PISS POOR CONTRACTS THEY HAVE GIVEN OVER THE YEARS. PLAYERS DONT FORCE OWNERS TO OFFER THEN OUTRAGEOUS CONTRACTS. THEY ALSO WANT TO MAKE BEING AN NBA OWNER A RISK FREE INVESTMENT WITH GUARANTEED PROFITS AND NO CONSEQUENCES WHETHER THEY DO A BAD JOB OR NOT. IM SURE COKE, PEPSI, GOOGLE ETC WOULD ALL LOVE THE SAME DEAL. MICHAEL JORDAN SIMPLY WANTS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AS MANY BAD DRAFT PICKS AS POSSIBLE AND WRITE AS MANY BAD CONTRACTS AS POSSIBLE WHILE HAVING NO RISK OF LOSING MONEY. CANT SAY THAT I BLAME HIM BUT DONT ACT LIKE THATS HOW BUSINESS WORKS IN THIS COUNTRY.  THERE ARE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH OWNING A TEAM AND IF YOU MAKE BAD DECISONS YOU SHOULD LOSE MONEY. MOST OF THESE OWNERS MAKE HORRIBLE DECISIONS WITH REGARDS TO CONTRACTS AND DRAFT PICKS.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 19, 2011 1:27 pm
 

Granger: Blame David Stern for damage to NBA

Players forget basketball is about the team, it them....I have been a lakers fan my whole life, and I'll be no matter who plays for them.... If Kobe left ..I would root against him....simple


So you dont care about the talent level, only the jersey. Trust me, if more fans felt like you the owners would be paying Mexicans minimum wage to wear Lakers jerseys and run around trying to put the ball in the hoop. The rest of us actually want some sort of a product for our hard earned money. We arent as loyal to a shirt as you are. I need to see some talent too. The specific player(Kobe) isnt as important as the fact that the league is made up of the best players in the world.  It doesnt have to be Kobe, but if Kobe and Lebron and Wade and all the other stars are playing in Italy or China, then thats the league Im gonna be paying attention to.



Since: Apr 13, 2009
Posted on: November 19, 2011 9:37 am
 

Granger: Blame David Stern for damage to NBA

i feel the same way you do,cancel the season and teach them a lesson




Since: Mar 21, 2007
Posted on: November 19, 2011 3:18 am
 

Granger: Blame David Stern for damage to NBA

Bankruptcy and the end ot the NBA is far more favorable to Ben and Danny than submitting to an offer from the league that only loses $34 million per year. Sure blame Stern since you don't seem to have a clue about corporate finance and the ramifications of continuing to lose money after six consecutive years of a cumulative $1.8 billion in losses. I will attempt to explain

I dont know where you get your numbers from, but maybe you should check out this article:

The BRI for the NBA totals nearly 4 billion a year.  So going from 57% to 50% BRI is giving up around $270 million a year.  Over the course of a 10 year deal, that is nearly 3 billion dollars. This is not petty change.  In addition, the owners want to make system changes that increase the penalty to players switching teams and increase the penalty for teams with higher salaries.
 
The main problem is that the owners want it to be impossible for any team to take a loss, however they know the poorer teams can't take money from the highly profitable teams.  Just like in any other business, if a team makes poor business decisions, they wont make a profit no matter what the BRI split is.  If they are in a market that cannot support them, maybe they should move.  If there are not enough markets for every team in the NBA to be marketable, get rid of a few. Maybe the teams "losing money" should sell their team. 

If the goal of the nba is to create parity, I think raising the maximum salary and keeping the Cap the same might actually help more.  If the max contract is only 20-25% of the cap, then you can afford to do what happened in LA and Boston then later Miami, and to a lesser extent NY and CHI.  It is still possible to have 3 max contracts and field a team.  But if the max contract is 40-50% of the cap, then it wouldnt be possible to have 2 max players and then field the rest of the team.  A player may be willing to give up 1 or 2 mil a year to team up, but 10-15 mil I think would make them think much harder.  Of course this would mean the owners would have to make good deals or would lose money.  It might be easier to get players to agree to limit shorter contracts then. 

If the goal of the NBA is to create profits, let the big market teams get all the great players in the biggest markets and watch the cash roll in, just figure out how to split it better.  Give a big 3 or even big 4 to LA, Houston, NY, and Chi and let that be the conference finals.  Ratings would go through the roof



Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: November 19, 2011 2:43 am
 

Granger: Blame David Stern for damage to NBA

Financial reality is something these stupid players just don't understand.....Please owners, hold firm and cancel the season...




Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: November 19, 2011 1:40 am
 

Granger and Ben: don't have a clue

We're well into the fifth month of the the NBA lockout with no end in sight. If you're not blaming NBA commissioner David Stern by now, either your name is Adam Silver or you just don't care about American professional basketball.
Bankruptcy and the end ot the NBA is far more favorable to Ben and Danny than submitting to an offer from the league that only loses $34 million per year. Sure blame Stern since you don't seem to have a clue about corporate finance and the ramifications of continuing to lose money after six consecutive years of a cumulative $1.8 billion in losses. I will attempt to explain.

Banks lend money. Occupy Wall Street wants you to know banks make money, big money. How do they do that? By lending to good credit risks and charging interest on those loans. But is an organization a good credit risk which has lost big money for six consecutive years? Would you lend money under those circumstances while knowing it will be at least another six to ten years before there is any opportunity for the borrower to make profits? If you think this is fine you are either the current Secretary of the Treasury or the previous Secretary of the Treasury. Cue occupy Wall Street.

This is not about David Stern. This is about getting league finances in order. It is also about restoring competitive balance so that more than nine teams can win a championship over the next thirty years. What do you say, Indiana? Believe your star and know you will never see a conference final? Or believe Stern who wants you to compete for one. I don't say anything about Danny Granger's basketball skills because he is the professional and not me. I say phooy to his financial skills and understanding of the NBA CBA negotiations because I am a professional and he is not. Now Ben can write - oh, can he write. He can write so well you would stay and read it on a bathroom stall. This piece maybe belongs there too.



Since: Sep 5, 2009
Posted on: November 18, 2011 11:40 pm
 

Granger: Blame David Stern for damage to NBA

Players forget basketball is about the team, it them....I have been a lakers fan my whole life, and I'll be no matter who plays for them.... If Kobe left ..I would root against him....simple


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