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Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

Posted on: December 1, 2011 1:08 pm
Edited on: December 1, 2011 4:20 pm
Posted by Royce Young

Not surprising news in the slightest, big big nonetheless: According to The Record, Deron Williams will not sign an extension with the Nets and will just plan to play this season out.

Big news because that basically means it'll be open season on Williams in 2012 and the Nets will have to convince him he should stay. Not surprising because the Nets haven't done anything yet to impress him. Just talking about Dwight Howard and Nene really doesn't do a whole lot. Actions, not words, are what are going to impress Williams.

"Deron will not be signing the extension,” Jeff Schwartz told The Record. “Based on the new rules it doesn’t make any sense for him to sign the extension. It has nothing to do with how much he likes New Jersey. Because of the rules, he’s going to play the season out and probably opt out of his deal.”

But this just illustrates what a risk the Nets took last year when they decided to trade Derrick Favors, draft picks and Devin Harris for Williams despite not knowing if he'd stay with the team. The Nets wanted to make a big splash for when they moved to Brooklyn and wanted that cornerstone piece.

Problem is, that cornerstone piece might just be with the organization for one and half lame duck seasons before taking off and signing with Dallas, or someone else. Again, a serious risk taken by Billy King and the Nets.

It could still pay off though. This isn't the Carmelo Anthony situation. The Nets aren't going to be dealing Williams and still have a full season to bring him around. Their eggs are in his basket so they're going to be pushing for another big name to pair with him and won't just pull back and deal him. At least I wouldn't think that would be the plan.

King was asked Wednesday on WFAN in New York if he'd consider trading Williams if he didn't sign an extension. King's response: "Absolutely not."

“Fortunately I was around him quite a bit before July 1st and I felt pretty good," King said. "I still feel pretty good because we have a lot of things going for him. We got a brand new building that will be opening next season. He can be the face of a franchise in a major market, so I think there is a lot of positives in our situation for him. In the other situations those guys have been with those teams for awhile. They may want to look. They may not. I don’t know.”

If Williams makes it painfully clear he doesn't want to stay with the Nets though, shouldn't they just cut their losses and get something back? You'd think so, but again, King and the Nets are planning on Williams be their man for the future.

It could happen still. Don't think for a second that Williams passing now is a death sentence. Lots of time left, but Williams just wants to wait and see. Which is what he should do. In fact, Williams understands that himself. He tweeted this Thursday after all the noise broke earlier in the day:

He's right: He can make more in free agency than he could signing an extension. So why wouldn't he opt out and in the meantime, give himself some options?

Like I said, Williams was never planning on signing an extension before the season. The Nets had to do the due diligence and make the effort, but it wasn't happening. Not until Williams can be convinced that's an organization he wants to commit to long-term. And it very well could be. Billy King's got a year to make it look that way. The clock starts ticking now.

Since: Nov 21, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2011 6:20 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

Amidst all this bean counting, sour grapes comments, Deron has the cojones to go play in Turkey, where his family reportedly had a wonderful time, with which team he traveled countries ranging from Belgium to the Balkans whence he left mouths agape. Returning to New Jersey after being anointed a demi-god across the pond probably does not put him in the best of moods. Worry about your own greed before you self-project it to Deron.

Since: Jan 22, 2007
Posted on: December 1, 2011 6:16 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

Deron come home to the Mavericks!

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: December 1, 2011 5:51 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

Here's what Williams qualifies for in the New CBA:

  • Sign with current team in July 2012, eligible for 5 years $100 million 
  • Sign with any other team, max offer he can receive is 4 years $58 million 
This is a guy who couldn't wait on month to see if the NBA season starts he was so hungry for a paycheck he moved his family to Turkey.  Smart money says "no chance in hell"  D. Will leaves 42 mil on the table.  He will be a net.  Whether that happens this year next summer, doesn't matter he is not the type of guy that gives away $42 million. 

Since: Feb 23, 2009
Posted on: December 1, 2011 5:48 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

to everyone that has commented, YOUR ALL RIGHT. as a nets fan, i agree he'll opt out and if the futuer looks brite resign with NJ. Deron isnt the only 1 who only cares about himself, this whole league is the same way. look at the lockout they cost half a season over what 3% they are all greedy and i could care less if this league ever plays another game.

Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2011 4:18 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

At this point, when the Nets have struggled to even hit the 20 win mark, why would anyone want to re sign with them before the season even starts? Net's fans or nay sayers I wouldn't get too worked up about this. Wait and see who, if anyone the Nets add to the roster and how the season plays out. If the Nets are competing, and the future looks brighter... with the new stadium I could see him re signing with them.

I still find it funny people went crazy when Williams said he was only going to rent in NJ, as opposed to buying. Who would buy a house to only be stuck trying to sell it a year later when the team moves?

Patience my friends. 

Since: Dec 13, 2006
Posted on: December 1, 2011 4:05 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

Prokohov has more money than god. He will offer the maximum allowable contract to Deron Williams. It's not a dollars and cents issue, unless you begin to formulate state income tax rates (Texas and Florida don't have one), then we are getting into marginalia. The fact is that there exists a caste system within the NBA when it comes to glamour franchises, and the players can eschew maximum salaries, even if the franchise retains their "Bird rights" and go to a higher profile franchise. The effect of these decisions are cumulatively deleterious to the lesser teams. As a New Jersey Nets fan, it leaves me little incentive to follow the team. This runs off the fan base, and you have half-empty buildings.

If talent can not be sustained by franchises, even when they are willing and able to pay the maximum allowable salary to the player, then the league is cumulatively in trouble. I can identify 10-15 team every single year at the start of training camps that have essentially 'no shot', and they are invariably smaller market teams. In contrast, the Celtics and Bulls were down after their respective runs, but not for long, because they were able to retool by trading for players, and retaining originally drafted talent by resigning them after their rookie contracts expired. And therein lies the difference. I can't articulate this more plainly.

Since: May 25, 2007
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:45 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

Deron is indicative of the problem with the current state of the NBA. He was the reason a HOF coach decided to retire. He may lead well on the court but in the locker room, he is cancer. This is why I HATE the NBA...... the players are spoiled brats. I won't be buying a ticket any time soon (which is sad because I used to love going to Jazz games)

Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:17 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

There are teams that are built up that have made themselves contenders like the Grizzlies and Hawks.


Come on......I can see your side and I can see the other guy's side, but you really put a hole in your argument when you call the Grizzlies and Hawks contenders. Contenders for what? A team is not a contender just because they make the playoffs, especially in the NBA, where it's very rare to see the proverbial Cinderella. Sure, a team might surprise and get into the 2nd round, but it's almost unheard of in the NBA for a bad or mediocre team to get into the late rounds. So, I don't think you can consider teams like the Grizzlies and Hawks contenders. Well, unless you really believe they can win a championship, which I really can't believe you do.

I'll grant you, anything is possible, but in regards to this, the chances of a team like the Hawks or Grizzlies contending for a title as things currently stand are so slim, they're negligible.

And yeah, you're right that just about every team has a superstar. The problem is that, for a lot of teams, that's all they have. Oh, and superstars want to play with other superstars.

Since: May 10, 2011
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:07 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

very well said, couldn't agree with you more.

Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: December 1, 2011 3:06 pm

Report: Williams won't sign extension with Nets

You need players to stay with their teams, be it Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, or Danny Granger.

Either install a mechanism to allow the smaller teams to retain their best players

The mechanism does exist. It's why players, when they first come to the league, have to stay with their team for a certain number of years and when they first become FA's, they are restricted. Teams have that time to convince the player he's where he belongs. So, the question to your statement about players needing to stay with their teams is "How long?" I'm assuming you don't mean in perpetuity.

Don't get me wrong.....despite being a Celtics fan, I do feel for the small market teams. But I don't think the answer is forcing players to be where they don't want to be after they've fulfilled their inital responsibility to the team that drafted them. Really, they need a hard salary cap. But with the new CBA, I guess it will be another 6-10 years before that becomes a real topic of discussion again and, collectively, the owners will continue to make poor and outright stupid business decisions which drag the rest of the league down with them, and then cry to the media and anyone else who will listen that they are the victims of an unworkable business model. ANd the players will be labeled "greedy" by the public.

I'm still not understanding why a player, who is trying to make his life better (and that doesn't just mean financially), is greedy, while the owners of the teams who grab up all of the big-name players are just viewed as businessmen making a living running their businesses. Fact is, they're both greedy and only concerned about themselves. Both sides want to put all of the blame on the other and until both groups cop to the facts that both are contributing to the problem, they both need each other and they both have to sacrifice something in order to fix the problem, well.......I guess you'll have to content yourself with those sandlot games and copulating cats and us NBA fans will have to accept a less-than-ideal product, because after this past labor saga, I don't see it getting fixed this decade, if ever.

BTW, just to clarify, I know you didn't use the word "greedy"......part of this post is addressing to your post directly, while part of it is about the bigger picture and some of the things that were said/done during the labor negotiations that just ended.

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