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Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume

Posted on: December 9, 2011 4:26 pm
Edited on: December 9, 2011 8:32 pm
Posted by Ben Golliverkobe-chris-paul

Less than 24 hours after NBA commissioner David Stern stepped in to veto a 3-team trade that would have sent New Orleans Hornets All-Star point guard to the Los Angeles Lakers, the three sides have reportedly resumed talking.

Yahoo Sports reports, with confirmation from Ken Berger of, that the Hornets, Lakers and Houston Rockets are re-engaged in trade talks in an attempt to "find a new way" to consummate a trade that would have sent Lakers All-Star big man Pau Gasol to the Rockets and Lakers forward Lamar Odom to the Hornets, along with Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Goran Dragic and other considerations. 

The three sides had reportedly agreed to a framework earlier on Thursday before word broke that Stern killed the deal in his role as overseer of the league-owned Hornets. The NBA initially said the trade had been vetoed for "basketball reasons" and issued a full statement on Friday morning.

"We decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade," Stern's statement read.

Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert sent a letter to Stern that called the proposed trade a "travesty" while players criticized Stern for stepping in to block the trade.

According to the New York Times
, the league would like the Hornets to get a "better, younger package," to ensure long-term success.

Paul reportedly threatened not to attend the opening of Hornets training camp on Friday, but eventually showed up. reports that Odom showed up late to Lakers camp, met with Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak and then left without participating.

Since: Dec 10, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 7:14 pm

Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume

man your so right. i think the lakers should rethink those trades. get rid of walton and sometiming shannon brown instead. 

Since: Dec 10, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 9:59 am
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Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2011 2:02 am

Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume

Why is everyone talking about whether the Hornets or Lakers did or didn't get the better end of the deal?

It was a great deal for the Hornets.  They got three good to very good players in Odom, Martin and Scola.  They got a young point guard in Dragic who I think could be a good player given the opportunity of more playing time.  Plus Minnesota's number one pick (which will be a lottery pick) for a player they control for one more year and then he is outta there.

It was a good deal for the Lakers, I guess.  They get their man in Paul.  Not sure he's worth giving up Gasol and Odom for but they obviously feel he is.

My question is what were the Rockets thinking?  They give up three players (two of whom were probably their best players last season) plus a lottery pick for Gasol? 

Since: Nov 16, 2011
Posted on: December 10, 2011 1:57 am

Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume

Frankly, I think Stern did the Lakers a favor.  As good as Chris Paul is, giving up both Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom is too much.  The Lakers will be going from having perhaps the best front lines to being very mediocre at best.  Andrew Bynum is not as good as Pau Gasol and he's injury prone and they won't have anything else.  In fact, you could even argue that Gasol and Odom have become the Lakers two best players.  I know Bryant is still great but he started to show his age last season and he's clearly getting past his prime. 

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2011 1:54 am

Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume

Selig owned the Brewers, not the Nationals.

Since: Apr 2, 2008
Posted on: December 10, 2011 1:48 am

Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume

You should know what your talking about before you spout off ignorantly.  Google Bud Selig owner of the Nationals.  You might be amazed at the deals that were done while he owned them.

Since: Sep 10, 2009
Posted on: December 10, 2011 1:22 am

Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume


Since: Oct 12, 2010
Posted on: December 10, 2011 1:09 am

Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume

One of the worst trades done in the recent history of the NBA was the much heralded Carmelo Anthony trade in which the Knicks traded three starters, one first round draft pick, two second round draft picks, and one seven footer to the Nuggets for Carmelo Anthony and three bloated contracts of injured players.  Another one would be the Deron Williams trade to the Nets for starter Devin Harris, two first round draft picks (one used for Kemba Walker) and one starting forward just recently drafted.  Both Anthony and Williams and three months remaining on their contracts until they would become unrestricted free agents and their teams would receive nothing when they left.  In both cases, the acquiring franchises significantly harmed the future of their team in order to make the trade. 
Apparently, this is what Stern wants the Lakers to do.   The Lakers are under no obligation to destroy their franchise in order to acqurie one player who will be an unrestricted free agent in a few months.  In addition, the player has already told his current team that he is leaving and they will get squat in three months.

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: December 10, 2011 1:08 am

Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume

Well said Lemeuix.  In the real world, if an employee told their boss where they wanted to work or what jobs they wanted to do, they would be canned immediately.  I guess this deal settled nothing.  The players (employees) are still in control of their bosses (owners) and dictating where they want to go (big market and spotlight).  I personally do not like these superteams like Miami with three superstars together because it eliminates the competition.  Now there are 5 teams with a chance to compete and the rest are like "farm systems."  They draft the players and once they become free agents, they go to one of the 5 teams.  It is getting just like baseball.  The Lakers are like the Yankees.  They will do anything to get superstars and the owners are annoyed that the Lakers are getting sweet trades to help them out.  When they traded for Gasol, they basically robbed Memphis and now they want to dump Odom and Gasol on New Orleans, who is bankrupt.  These players will not fill seats and are not going to improve the team.  They are also on the wrong side of 30.  I am sick of the Lakers always seeming to make trades to win them yet another championship.  They are never in a rebuilding mode just like the Yankees are in baseball.  If Paul ends up getting traded there or ends up signing and then Howard ends up there, they will be as hated if not more hated than Miami.  Even now, they are one of the most hated teams just because they are the Lakers.  They are always championship contenders so they are the popular team to hate.  If Howard and Paul end up there, there will be two teams and 28 others.  Miami vs. Lakers every year in the Finals, the two most hated teams, and no one will want to watch.  This is why the owners had a lockout in the first place.  I am glad to get the Knicks back, but this deal was terrible.  The owners should not have given in and sat out the whole season just like the NHL.  The players would have eventually caved in after missing a year's pay and would have accepted the flex cap system.  Then these big market bullies like the Lakers and the superstar players (employees) would not run the league.  I am glad the trade was not approved because many people are sick of the Lakers and the superstars having the ability to get anything they want.  Billy Hunter is a terrible leader and has been part of TWO lockouts.  He must go and now must Stern.  He should never have allowed the owners to accept such a rotten deal.  But if this deal gets re-approved, it will destroy any competitive balance.  Both Houston and New Orleans will be screwed.  At least send players that will improve them and get fans to pay ridiculous prices to fill seats.

Since: Sep 15, 2007
Posted on: December 10, 2011 1:01 am

Chris Paul to Lakers trade talks resume

The NBA is not the real world. This fact hurts Paul and does not help him. If this was the real world, he would just contact the Knicks and take a job there. He does not have that right. That is what is bogus. I do not want to see the Lakers get better, but your argument is not valid in the slightest.
That is why they have and do call them contracts.  They are legaly binding documents with varied clauses dictating your wokring relationshiip and parameters of emplyment.  You are not on the other hand in most cases tied to one distinct corporate entity.  You can leave pretty much at will whenever and however you please with no true negative ramifications.  In very few instances would you have any stigma or negative performance evaluation follow you if you left of your own volition.  Yes, in the modern cyber age there might be more of a chance your new firm would find out under what circumstances you were "forced" to walk, but usually not.  In the NBA all these clubs are bound together for the most part as by-product of commonly negotiated rules and code of business conduct.  How exactly is that bogus?  These guys know what is detailed when they sign their agreements.  Players have every right to see what the market will bear in theory, but ultimately it is up to the teams to allow these trades to happen.  If they don't want what is seen by other parties as a fair offer they are under no obligation to take it.

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