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Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:10 pm
Posted by Royce Young

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(Cuban is at the 11-minute mark)

David Stern has already tried to wipe the mess of the NBA owning the Hornets and trading Chris Paul clean. He's tried to blame the frenzy last week on irresponsible journalists and outraged fans. He's tried to say that everything was on the up and up.

But with the report out of Houston saying that Stern lied and the same coming from Los Angeles, it's obvious that this isn't going away. Especially since Mark Cuban piled on a bit when talking to TMZ.

“David Stern owning a team kind of threw us all under the bus. You know, we went through a long lockout, and one of the things we were trying to gain was that small-market teams could have confidence they could keep their star players. … And within two weeks of the new collective bargaining agreement, the smallest-market team, which is owned by the NBA, threw up their hands and said, ‘We can’t keep our star player.’

“So it’s not about Chris Paul. It’s more about the fact that the NBA kind of gave up on the CBA before giving it a chance, and to me, that made them hypocritical, very hypocritical, and that didn’t sit well with me.”

Cuban already said that but just not in as strong a way last week. He talked about how star players have a system where if they stay in their current market, they can make the most money. And that was part of what the labor fight was over. He called the league hypocrites for given in so easily. Dan Gilbert sent an email to Stern and it's very likely that Cuban voiced his displeasure in the original trade as well. So he's not really upset about the veto, but more with the whole mess created by the NBA owning the Hornets.
“You would think the team owned by the NBA and run by the commissioner would be the first to stick it out, and they weren’t. And to me, it’s hypocritical, and they threw a lot of us under the bus.”
Wouldn't expect anything less than strong words from Cuban. And while he's not necessarily talking about the failed three-team trade, he is talking about the way the whole thing got handled. It was a mess and remains so. The NBA needs to find a new owner quickly before more of this happens. Because Stern's got at least three perturbed owners in Houston, Los Angeles and Dallas that didn't like the way this all went down.

Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2011 5:54 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

What the NBA needs to do is to make it economically impossible for teams to sign big time free agents. Like if any team signs a type "A" FA, they lose two first round draft choices to that team. And there should be a cap of 1 million dollars for the first year of any contract that a type "A" free agent could sign. There are things that should have been worked out in the CBA, but Stern doesn't really want the stars to stay in the smaller markets. He wants them in places where they will be on TV constanly. LA, Miami, Chicago, NY, ect. Because this league is run backwards. It should be about promoting teams, not players. That's why the inmates run the asylum, because they can.

Since: Sep 13, 2010
Posted on: December 19, 2011 5:21 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

Please don'T PUT SHOELESS JOE in the same category as that low-life, cheating, weasel, liar Sern.

Since: Sep 7, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:50 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

TMZ.. really? That tells us alot about sports in general when a respected (ish) website has a link to a site that is no more than a televised gossip magazine. We cant even pretend anymore sports is anything purer than paperazzi chasing Brangelina down a street.

Since: Nov 12, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:43 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

I agree with everything Mark Cuban said except one thing - that the financial incentives would keep the star players in the smaller markets.

The problem is, it isn't about the financial incentives, it's about the image. Chris Paul didn't want to be a big fish in a small pond. He concluded that he was too big for New Orleans and would have done exactly what LeBron James did - sign a contract for less money to go to the team of his choice.

You can throw all the money you want at the small market teams, but they aren't going to be able to attract the talent like the Los Angeles, New York or Miami. It isn't about the money, it's about the nightlife, endorsement opportunities, the other stars they can be seen with, etc. Do you think A-Rod would have the same A-List of ex-girlfriends if he went to Kansas City instead of New York? Do you think the odds of a player breaking into show business is better in Los Angeles or Milwaukee? Do you think you can get as many local endorsements in Portland as you could in Miami?

Unless you start getting stars that are low-key, non-spotlight seeking stars like Tim Duncan or David Robinson, the stars are going to use the small market teams as a development league and then when they feel that they are "too big" for that town and ready for prime time, they are going to demand trades or leave during free agency, even taking pay cuts, to go to a big market team. That is going to continue to make the big market teams look like all-star team (and this will get worse) and the stars will flock to those teams to "have a chance" at getting a title.

I know I don't want to see 3-4 big teams and then a bunch of Washington Generals developing young talent to feed to the big boys. It will be like the minor leagues, if you don't measure up, you get traded ("sent down") to the minor leagues when they trade you for the next hot player ready for the big time.

Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:18 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

I'll remind everyone one more time on just how corrupt our esteemed NBA commissoner is and has been for a long long time.  Imagine buying a lottery ticket and going home to view the drawing.  Then imagine some clammy handed guy in a suit reaching into a cage filled with envelopes which represent a number.  The lottery would be shut down within minutes.  David Stern rigged the early NBA lottery's right in front of our face and nobody blinked.  Do you realize how easy it is to chemically treat an envelope to make it cold..or hot...or smooth ..or rough?  Stern is a crook...always has been...always will be.  He's gotten away with it with the greatest of ease all these years.  Stern is the sole person behind the work stoppage of 2011 and immediately following the work stoppage he systematically trades away the star player on the league owned team.  Not before making a deal and then vetoing the same deal, only to make another deal days later. Yep that's our commissioner.  The most courrupt person in sports since Shoeless Joe. 

Since: Jul 21, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:12 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

David Stern is making Bud Selig look like an effective commissioner.

Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:11 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

For the first time ever (in my memory) the Lakers did not acuire something for nothing (or very little at best). Somehow, they have 'acquired' the best players in their prime without giving up a single player of comparable value (Jabbar for Brian Winters, Shaq for no one, Chamberlain for a song, Gasol for a 30th draft pick and 2 stiffs to be named later, Magjic as a first round pick acquired for a guy that was out of the league in one year). I don't want to hear about jealousy of the Lakers (or Celtics for that matter as their history is just as polluted). Remember the Draft 'Lottery' was invented to make sure that the worst teams would not get better. This is the first time the league has actually stood up and not said (Whats good for the Lakers or Celtics is good for Basketball. Long live the NBA, not just the Lakers and Celtics.

Since: Sep 15, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:09 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

If only these small market teams understood that winning is more important than money, everything in the NBA would be fine.  Players like playing for a winner.  Fans like watching a winner.  If your team wins games their best players will not leave and their fans will come out every night and spend money.  So the team spends some money to make their players happy and in the end they make more money because they have a quality product to sell to their fan base.  Cuban is the perfect example of what owners should be doing.  He pampers his players to the max and by all accounts they love him.   It took him years to put together a winner but the point is he always tried to put together a winning team.  Most small market teams are happy to send out a mediocre team on a small payroll and half fill their arenas every night.  Sure they make a few million each year but are missing the big picture.  Actually, the Paul trade to the clippers is a positive thing for the league.  Donald Sterling was the best example of the horrible NBA owners over the last 20 years.  If he is now trying to win by bringing in big money guys and putting together a championship caliber team, maybe these other small market owners will wake up and do the same thing.

Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:07 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

Mark Cuban can expect a fine.  David Stern doesnt like criticism

Since: Mar 4, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:05 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

Bo. The Hornets got the shaft on this trade, just like Stern wanted to happen. Stern never wanted the Hornets to move to New Orleans and didn't want them to come back after Katrina. Now he is going to get his wish. With this terrible trade the next decade are guaranteed to be losing seasons. Bad enough to drive down attendance enough to move them. Glad I didn't renew my season tickets when I saw the prices were almost the same price for a full season.

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