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Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:10 pm
Posted by Royce Young

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(Cuban is at the 11-minute mark)

David Stern has already tried to wipe the mess of the NBA owning the Hornets and trading Chris Paul clean. He's tried to blame the frenzy last week on irresponsible journalists and outraged fans. He's tried to say that everything was on the up and up.

But with the report out of Houston saying that Stern lied and the same coming from Los Angeles, it's obvious that this isn't going away. Especially since Mark Cuban piled on a bit when talking to TMZ.

“David Stern owning a team kind of threw us all under the bus. You know, we went through a long lockout, and one of the things we were trying to gain was that small-market teams could have confidence they could keep their star players. … And within two weeks of the new collective bargaining agreement, the smallest-market team, which is owned by the NBA, threw up their hands and said, ‘We can’t keep our star player.’

“So it’s not about Chris Paul. It’s more about the fact that the NBA kind of gave up on the CBA before giving it a chance, and to me, that made them hypocritical, very hypocritical, and that didn’t sit well with me.”

Cuban already said that but just not in as strong a way last week. He talked about how star players have a system where if they stay in their current market, they can make the most money. And that was part of what the labor fight was over. He called the league hypocrites for given in so easily. Dan Gilbert sent an email to Stern and it's very likely that Cuban voiced his displeasure in the original trade as well. So he's not really upset about the veto, but more with the whole mess created by the NBA owning the Hornets.
“You would think the team owned by the NBA and run by the commissioner would be the first to stick it out, and they weren’t. And to me, it’s hypocritical, and they threw a lot of us under the bus.”
Wouldn't expect anything less than strong words from Cuban. And while he's not necessarily talking about the failed three-team trade, he is talking about the way the whole thing got handled. It was a mess and remains so. The NBA needs to find a new owner quickly before more of this happens. Because Stern's got at least three perturbed owners in Houston, Los Angeles and Dallas that didn't like the way this all went down.

Since: Feb 16, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2011 2:42 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

Cuban is so much about his self interests it's ridiculous.  The real reason to dislike Stern isn't because he traded Chris Paul... Chris Paul was going to walk next year anyways so he HAD to be traded.  The reason they should hate him is vetoing a good trade with the Lakers, one that gave the Hornets some good talent in return, and a trade that was arguably worse for the Lakers than it was the Hornets.  LA would have been without 2/3rds of their size and would have needed to scramble to figure out how to fill those holes.  Stern obviously played a game and was trying to in his mind make the Hornets more marketbale to a buyer, but making up the rules as he went along to do it. 

Hey Stern, you are the idiot that allowed the franchise to go to a city without a good fan base in the first place, chalk it up to screw up #10,234 that you are directly responsible for.

Since: Jul 26, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2011 2:34 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

Until an owner can be found, the NBA has to own them. I couldn't see all the owners having an equal vote on the daily business of another franchise. Appears Stern was holding out for the best deal possible and negotiating. This happens all the time with the other teams. Not that Stern is involved all of a sudden its Taboo and everyone is making a big deal out of everything. Unless we have all the facts hard to play the blame game. I'm not a Stern advocate by any means but in this case I don't see how it wa sany worse than what goes on between owners. Heck the Lakers were handed Pau Gasol and my Blazers were basically handed Wallace. The list goes on. Where is the outcry over these moves? The Lakers finally didn't get their man and the Rockets need a center worse than Portland does and they are crying. I don't feel sorry for them.

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2011 2:15 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

Stern and Bettman are doing the same thing.
Neither the NHL nor the NBA have any business
owning any teams.
If they couldnt sell them then they should have folded
both team's.

Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 2:15 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

I have not heard of anything that the NBA is trying to find Hornets a new owner

Since: Sep 11, 2007
Posted on: December 19, 2011 2:14 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

This is why I want this man to buy my Dodgers.  He's smart, he knows what he's talking about, he's driven to win, and he's utterly fearless.  He backs down for no one.  He would face down a pack of ravnous pit bulls if they are in the way of his Mavs.  These are the kinds of owners we need in pro sports not the Donald Sterlings and the Frank McCourts.  He tells it straight as it is.  No BS.

Since: May 27, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2011 2:12 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

The problem isn't that the original trade was vetoed or that Stern and the NBA reneged on what they were trying to promote through the new CBA. Or, I should rephrase to say that those are problems, but those are problems caused by the greatest problem of all: the New Orleans Hornets don't have a proper owner. In other words, as long as the Hornets or any other team has ownership propped up by the league, there will be no correct answer to anything. It will all be bad. For too long the theory has been "the more teams we have, the more money we can make". But that logic is theoretical. In reality, it is flawed. Half the teams in the NBA have nothing worth promoting, yet half the teams make the playoffs. How is that of any interest to a fan of a team that doesn't have a superstar on their roster? And really, what superstar player wants to play out their career in New Orleans or Toronto or Utah? Sure, they can make more money in those places, but they can offset their contractual losses with marketing earnings that come from a bigger city. Plus, we're talking millions of dollars here. At some point, a player facing the difference of five or 10 million dollars or whatever it is will decide, "well, I'm still walking away from this deal with 50 million, is that not enough to play in a city I'll be content?" The league is broken in any myriad of ways. To me, the solution starts with trimming the fat -- and yes, that means contraction.

Since: Jun 24, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:59 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

It doesn't sound to me like he is talking about the way the situation was "handled."  Sounds like he is simply saying that the league should not have traded Chris Paul.  I agree with Mark Cuban, that the only answer to a trade request or trade proposal in this situation should have been 'thank you for your interest, but there are two more years left on Paul's contract and we look forward to him representing the Hornets and the proud city of New Orleans during that time."  Teams need to stop trading these guys, its a bit cowardly and won't really work out in the long run. Cuban is right, it would have been nice for Stern to  exercise a little leadership on this issue.  Of course you realize that  essentially this article is critisizing Stern for the exact opposite reason that this website has been critisizing him for.  It's funny how the Stern critisism has morphed during this whole thing. 

I actually think Stern "handled" the situation pretty well.  However, if by "handled" you mean managed the PR side of all this then . . . I'm not sure I really care one way or the other and I guarantee you Stern doesn't care.  

Since: Sep 30, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:46 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

Cuban is cannot have the league own the team and have the power to accept and/or reject everyone's trades; there can be no transparency in it.  Cuban's point about the league putting a new cba in place and then spitting in the face of the deal by letting go of their biggest asset is spot on as well.
Cuban will most likely get fined for his comment about the league, as we all know Stern hates it when anyone speaks out about him, the officials, the league or anything else he is directly tied too.
I am sure Mark will be happy to pay the fine.  I suppose the only owner's that are happy are the ones that were crying to Stern over the original deal in the first place, but they should be the most upset; why?  Because what Stern actually did was prove the point that small market teams cannot keep their stars.  What a moron..........Stern is.

Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: December 19, 2011 1:41 pm

Cuban: Stern owning team 'threw us under the bus'

You may disagree with his on the court (even if he isnt a player) antics, but the man does know how to run a business and he is 100% right on this.  Stern spoke about protecting the non super teams, the small markets.  And then, the first thing he and the NBA do is trade away the only worthwhile piece of a franchise that should just be contracted.  

Outside of civic pride, there is no reason for anyone in Louisiana to rally around this franchise and Stern only made it worse.  

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