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Ray Allen calls out David West for picking Pacers

Posted on: December 20, 2011 2:39 pm
Posted by Royce Young

For a couple of hours, the Boston Celtics thought they landed a premier power forward to help make one more run at a championship. But then David West changed his mind and went to the Pacers, taking more money in the process.

West took a two-year, $20 million deal from the Pacers, turning down a three-year, $29 million offer from Boston. (The Celtics deal was a sign-and-trade thing and really complicated.) And while that deal is better for West in three ways -- a) he gets more money b) it's less years meaning he can get back on the market after proving his knee is fine and c) he gets to be a starter whereas in Boston he'd be playing behind Kevin Garnett.

Yes, he'd have a better chance at a championship, but that dog doesn't always rule for some players. They all want it, but there are other factors. Doesn't matter to Ray Allen though, who told ESPN Boston that West done messed up.

“Once it got down to the end, I think his ego kicked back in,” Allen said. “He wanted the dollars. I guess it comes down to ‘What is a championship worth to you?’

“Think of all the guys who have made $20 million and could be considered one of the best ever, but they get chided because they never won. We [the Big Three] all had to do less when we won. We’re still taking less to make it work. But it’s worth it. No one can ever say to KG, Paul or me, ‘You guys never got your ring.’”

Let's break it down: West gets $10 million a year in Indiana. He would've gotten $9.6 million a year in Boston. I'm pretty sure an extra $400,000 a year didn't make this decision for West. And for Allen to think that West just took money over the chance to win a title is a pretty serious charge. Because in professional sports, the desire for a championship is supposed to be what it's all about and to challenge a guy on not having that isn't holding back.

There was really no questions for me when West picked Indiana. It's not like he went to the Raptors or something. He went to a team that's ready to compete now. He went to a team that was in the playoffs last season and had they figured out how to score in the fourth quarter, might have upset the Bulls. And guess what? West could very well be a major part of figuring out how to score in the fourth quarter.

Allen is understandably miffed that West passed over the Celtics. This offseason has been rough on Boston. They lost Jeff Green for the season, didn't score Chris Paul while pretty much hanging Rajon Rondo out to dry in trade talks. It wasn't pretty for the Celtics and Allen might feel like their window is slowly closing shut.

Or he just felt like calling out David West. Either way, it was pretty weak.

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Since: Oct 16, 2011
Posted on: December 20, 2011 7:04 pm

Ray Allen calls out David West for picking Pacers

Bitter much Allen???? David west is a starter why would he want to take a reserve roll when hes just coming off major knee surgery and wants playing time to prove he can still produce at a high level so that he can maybe get one more big contract after his pacers deal is up. The pacers seem to be in about the same boat as boston because i dont think either of them can get past chicago or miami. Celtics have been great and fun to watch these past few years but even if they added west i believe their window is most likely closed, but hey as ray allen said atleast they got their rings.

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: December 20, 2011 6:54 pm

Ray Allen calls out David West for picking Pacers

"Once it got down to the end, I think his ego kicked back in," Allen said. "He wanted the dollars. I guess it comes down to 'What is a championship worth to you?'
Ray Allen calls himself out here. 'Judge not lest you be judged. By the same standard you judge it shall be judged of you.' Ego is front and center. How did Boston do last year? Oh? Lost in the second round? Well how did they do the year before? Oh? Lost in the finals? And how did they do three years ago? Oh? They won the finals? So tell me, are they on an upward curve? Are they young and growing. Apologies to all my Boston friends. This is not a shot at a proud and worthy franchise. But their run, from where I am sitting, might be over. Their veterans are long in the tooth and no longer at the top of their games. It seems more ego from Allen to call out David West for joining the Pacers. What if David sees the Pacers more likely to win a championship in the next three years than Boston? When our conclusion is wrong, we are taught to examine our premises. Ray could learn from this.

The NBA has long been a dynamic league. A single draft pick can propel a team from mediocre to best (Derrick Rose.) A wise free agent signing can boost a collection of role players into a feared opponent. It is true that the championships have been mostly won in LA, Boston, Chicago or San Antonio lately. The CBA is focused on changing that beginning in two years. So Boston still has a competitive team. So does Indiana. Larry Bird is an all-time great on the court. He was never the best athlete but perhaps the smartest one. He has had years to learn the business from one of the top general managers of this era. He seems to understand how to plug his lineup holes. It is not a slam dunk to say Boston will win a championship. It is not a slam dunk to say Indiana cannot win a championship. But sportsmanship requires an athlete to acknowledge the vagaries of the sport and accept that another team may beat your own. It is why they play the games. Call out your own teammates, if you must, Ray Allen. But don't tamper with the players who choose another team. That shows your ego.

Since: May 28, 2007
Posted on: December 20, 2011 5:38 pm

Ray Allen calls out David West for picking Pacers

whoever thinks the celtics are a contender because of adding west is equally as foolish.they are old and west off the bench with balky knee doesn't make them any younger or much better.he made good decision going to pacers,he'll start and have shot at getting another payday 2 years from now.i think pacers should of given tyler a shot at starting spot.he showed great energy last year against the bulls,pu up good numbers too.

Since: Dec 20, 2011
Posted on: December 20, 2011 4:59 pm

Ray Allen calls out David West for picking Pacers

He took the money over a championship. West is 31 years old hes not a young buck, Who ever thinks the pacers are a contender because of David West is very foolish and does know anything about Basketball. Pacers will not make it past the first round there front court is to small and there bench is weak. Adding west gives them a solid player but hes not a superstar who can carry a team to the finals. When Granger is your star player your not going any where.  Dont get me wrong i understand a championship wont put food on the table but hey its not like they where trying to low ball him either. Im glad Boston did not get west BTW Go HEAT !!!!!!!!!!

Since: Jun 24, 2011
Posted on: December 20, 2011 4:48 pm

Ray Allen calls out David West for picking Pacers

News flash Jesus , you guys are not going win a ring this year either.  You guys are old, Doc is a cry baby, KG is a dick, and not everyone wants to  play for your little rent-a-dynasty so get over it.  

Since: Dec 9, 2011
Posted on: December 20, 2011 3:58 pm

Ray Allen calls out David West for picking Pacers

says the guy whose made $170MM dollars in his NBA career to the guy whose made $44MM dollar in his career.

I also don't know that they ALL took less to play there, when Ray is making $10MM/year as a 36 year old. Paul Pierce made $14MM last year @ 34 years old, and KG made $18MM last year as a 36 year old. But hey, I guess your view as a person changes when your net worth is $170 Million Dollars, not counting anything he's made aside from just his NBA salary. Yes, PP and RA could've probably inched out a few more dollars, but they're in different places in their career, so for Ray to call out West like this is just plain ignorant.

Last note, isn't RayRay asking West to do exactly what the owners crammed down the players throats during the lockout? "Do yourself a favor and take less money to work with us!!"

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 20, 2011 3:07 pm

Ray Allen calls out David West for picking Pacers

If it was all about the money, the Celtic deal guaranteed West $9million more, albeit spread over 3 years -- over the next two the difference is only (can't believe we use the word "only" here) $800,000 -- so 1 bad injury and he loses $9million by passing on the Celtics for a CHANCE that if he has two good years in Indiana he'll sign a contract that will pay him more than $9million in what would be the 3rd year of the Celtic deal -- plus the Pacers are an improving team, while the Celtics are aging team losing Green, Davis and Perkins from last year's squad and trying to trade Rondo.  All of that hardly screams "championship"--I am not saying the Celtics can't win it this year, but they are certainly not the favorite and, as consitituted, have a closing window with an aging Garnett, Allen and Pierce.

Looks like a calculated gamble, based on both money now, a chance to build a winner, and money later to me.  I couldnt fault West for going either direction.

Since: Oct 16, 2011
Posted on: December 20, 2011 2:57 pm

Ray Allen calls out David West for picking Pacers

I think it was the money. Pacers will be a good team but do you think they have enough to beat Chicago or Miami, either this year or next? Boston with West at least had a chance to beat those two teams this year. Also there is agood chance that after thsi year the Celtics would pick up a great pelayer becaus ethey would have a LOT of cap room. A team that had Rondo, Pierce, West, and lot's of cap space, plus Garnett and Allen could resign for a LOT lless money as 6th men......

Yeah I think West was about the money. It's his choice, but it was about the $$$$$ 

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