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Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

Posted on: December 26, 2011 12:04 pm
Posted by Royce Young

There's a thinking -- a smart kind of it -- that says that the Lakers traded Lamar Odom for a bigger reason. The idea is that no way the Lakers gave up one of their best players just to cut down on their luxury tax payment and get a trade exception in return. It was all to clear room and money for Dwight Howard. That's how it makes sense to give away the Sixth Man of the Year for nothing.

Right? I mean, right?

But Jim Buss, the guy running the show in Los Angeles right now, says the trade you're thinking about -- Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol for Dwight Howard -- isn't happening. Via the L.A. Times:
“Where does this stuff come from?” Buss said. “You’d have to be kind of silly to give up two All-Stars like that for Howard. Zero truth to it. We have never been asked for Andrew and Pau and we’ve never offered them. I think they know we’d either say no or they would sound crazy for asking ... I personally believe now that we have the team that we will be playing with all season long.”
Here's the proof: The Lakers nearly beat the Bulls and MVP Derrick Rose to open the season without Bynum and with Kobe playing with a busted wrist. But they didn't. They fell to one of the elite teams. Does that happen with Dwight Howard patrolling the paint?

Buss says that you'd be silly to give up two All-Stars like Bynum and Gasol for Howard. I think most the public would feel you'd have to be silly to NOT make that deal if it were available. Dwight Howard, who is just 26, to come to Los Angeles to play center with Kobe Bryant? Doesn't that sound ideal? Yeah, you lose your starting power forward and replacing Gasol would not be easy at all, but to get the best big man in the game, isn't that worth it?

This Laker team can compete in the West. Kobe, Gasol, Bynum -- it's a strong core. And you can be sure general manager Mitch Kupchak is shopping that trade exception and a few other things as you read this. The Lakers want to get better. They know they're not quite good enough yet, despite Kobe saying so. They'll be a solid Western team, but this franchise is only in the market of winning championships and Buss and company have to ask: Can this roster do that?


Since: Jan 27, 2007
Posted on: December 26, 2011 5:12 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

Most Laker fans are in agreement on this.  We know what we have in Bynum and Gasol.  You do not give up your inside advantage to get Howard.  Howard is an athletic monster on the inside no doubt, but his post game leaves a lot to be desired.  He relies on speed, quickness, and strength to score.  As he gets older that clear advantage he has now on every other center in the league slowly will start to fade.  Believe it or not but Bynum's post game with his back to the basket is more advanced than Howard's.  He is no were near as athletic as Howard but can be just as effective if given the chance.  If you saw the last preseason game against the Clippers that Kobe missed, it's showed what Bynum is capable of when given the chance.  The problem is Kobe is still Kobe and hasn't come to terms with the fact that it can't be all about him anymore if he wants to win.  The only issue with Bynum is his health issues, mainly his past knee problems.  But he worked hard in the offseason and came into camp in the best shape of his career.  Hopefully that helps with the knees.  Bynum is also two years younger than Howard.

Gasol is a little different story.  Every Laker fan was frustrated as hell with him after his disappearing act in last year's playoffs.  But all things being equal, we remember what he did for us and just what he is capable of.  All that being said, you trade one of the two of them for Howard with other pieces but just not both.   

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2011 4:57 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

The Lakers are rebuilding for the future. They realized that they could no longer compete with Chris Paul and the Clippers. I expect the Lakers to trade Kobe to the Warriors. *It's not crazy talk if it happens* 

Since: Feb 2, 2011
Posted on: December 26, 2011 4:46 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

and not bias babble that appears all too often. I.E. Like the propoganda machine known as ABC/ESPNLebronnuthuggers....

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: December 26, 2011 4:01 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

Finally Laker fans who make sense..I always thought that was alot to give up, but I was always under the impression that Bynum was a game away from breaking down like a racehorse and having to be put out to pasture. If this guy can stay healthy, he becomes a very valuable commodity in the NBA, a 7 footer who can actually play ball. That being said you really could use a premier point guard, one who has enough clout to wrestle the ball and control of the team away from Kobe, who is on the back nine of his playing carreer....and like it was mentioned previously, develo[p a one-two tandem with the bigs down low, of course Kobe is still there to provide instant offense when things breakdown.

Since: Oct 16, 2011
Posted on: December 26, 2011 3:23 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

This is just a silly trade. Bad trades are made when teams get focussed on one player and don't look at the big picture. The Lakers could get a much better haul by trading either one of these players seperately to other teams.

1) Gasol and a 1st & 2nd round pick to NJ for D Williams amd Kris Humphries. The Lakers get the leagues second best point guard, a serviciable PF and now have a core young group built around Williams and Bynum for the future. Playing with a true PG will help Bynum develop in a way he won't with just great scorers (Kobe). NJ if they can't get Howard will lose Williams anways but with this trade they will have 2 skilled 7 footers (once B Lopez heals) extra picks to draft, and Gasol a guy who people forget that before he got beaten down playing center because of Bynums health was talked about as a 1st half MVP last year. I thought this would have been an EVEN SMARTER trade with Odom thrown in before the Lakers traded him away. I mean Williams is only a step below CP3, and with his body type will be effective for more years as he's more power than speed and could eventually play the post like Billups.


2) Bynum to the ATL for Josh Smith, K Heinrick and a 1st rounder. Gasol has to move to center but he gets to be paired with a truly electric PF who can defend, Heinrick is a Derick Fisher type, gritty, can defend, smart.  Atlanta gets a true center and can move Al Thorton to PF. (The same trade could be made for Gasol but without the 1st rounder due to his age).

None of these trades are perfect but they are much better than trading 14 feet of skill for one guy even as great as Howard is. I like Howard but no way is he as good as they two guys together. One more reason the Odom trade was stupid, even if he pouted they should have kept him. Odom, Bynum, two 1st rounders, and some etra parts for Howard and Turkolu (who could have played a poor man's Odom on this team) would have been a decent trade.

Since: Dec 26, 2011
Posted on: December 26, 2011 3:04 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

Good for them Howard is locker room cancer need to get a point guard

Since: Jun 19, 2009
Posted on: December 26, 2011 2:49 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

If I'm the Lakers and the Magic are willing to make this trade, I would pull the trigger.  But what does it matter.  David Stern obviously doesn't want the Lakers to win it all again so he would probably block the trade.  I mean after all, the Lakers would only be giving up two all-star big men and no way is that enough.  It's a joke what has happened.  Chris Paul should be on the team right now.  I never heard of a commissioner steping in and stopping a deal.  It's not like the Lakers are looking to make deals and are only offering up Luke Walton.
If Stern is gona stay out of future deals and the Lakers can pull this off, then they have to make the trade.  

Since: May 4, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2011 1:39 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

Wow...I agree with everything mentioned regarding this issue. It is nice to see folks discuss their positions about this issue without babbling on and on. I would love to see Howard in a Lakerr's uniform but not at the expense of losing both Gasol and Bynum. I hope Jim Buss knows what he is doing because I see the Lakers crumbling before my eyes. Kobe is not getting any younger.

Since: Apr 4, 2010
Posted on: December 26, 2011 1:09 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

The Lakers need to place Jim Buss in charge of vendor sales at Staples, and get rid of him making any personnel changes that have anything to do with the Laker basketball team.  That need to be done IMMEDIATELY!!!  Let Mitch Kupchak do his job, and if Dr. Jerry Buss doesn not have full confidence in him, why couldn't he ask Jerry West to come back to the Lakers??  I know his family owns the team, but that doesn't mean his son has the knowledge or experience to have a hands-on job with this team.  It is too important, so what happens when he screws up, shouldn't he be treated like any other GM and be fired?  We all know that will not happen.  Unfortunately, the Lakers franchise could very well end up heading in the direction of the year end and year out cellar dwellers.  If the Lakers are lucky, Jim Buss will realize he is NOT a basketball scout, and will remove himself from this position, and hopefully not too much damage will have been done to the Lakers.  If things continue at the current pace we are looking at least a decade or longer before the Lakers will become relavant again.  I do not have a problem keeping the two bigs, but we obviously do need a top tier point guard!!  I am not a scout either, and even I can see we could use someone like Mo Williams, who is in great shape, still young, and is very familiar with Mike Brown, from their together in Cleveland.  Hey it is just a thought. I think just this one move could prove highly beneficial to the Lakers.

Since: Dec 24, 2011
Posted on: December 26, 2011 12:57 pm

Lakers aren't trading Gasol and Bynum for Howard

I completely agree with JonG.  It is refreshing to read a well thought out comment and not bias babble that appears all too often.  

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