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LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

Posted on: January 4, 2012 10:44 am
Edited on: January 4, 2012 10:54 am
 
Posted by Royce Young

There has never been any doubt that the 1992 Olympic team dubbed the Dream Team, is the greatest collection of basketball talent ever. They completely steamrolled everyone in their way and were even inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame.

And while there have been good American teams since, like 2008's Beijing roster or 1996's folllow-up team, there never has been a group quite like it. But LeBron James thinks the 20th anniversary team will compare. Via Fox Sports Florida:
"We can stack up with those guys," the Miami forward said.

[...]

"I agree," James said. "They set the standard for USA Basketball in '92 with all the great players they had. But we have some great ones as well. We have some Hall of Famers, some champions. So it's going to be a great (team)."

The only place you could ever find out is a video game, but here's an important note: The 2012 team has yet to win anything. And with the rest of the world pretty much caught up in talent with teams like Spain, France, Lithuania and others, awarding yourself a gold medal probably isn't the smartest thing. For the Americans to take home gold in London, they'll have to go through some good teams.

But for reference's sake, the Dream Team had Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Scottie Pippen, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, David Robinson, Clyde Drexler, Christian Laettner and Chris Mullin. The 2012 roster isn't set, but will likely have LeBron, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Kevin Durant, Derrick Rose, Blake Griffin, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, Kevin Love, Chris Bosh and a few others.

Do they "stack up" as LeBron says? Absolutely. In terms of pure talent, the 2012 has an abundance of it. It's hard comparing the past to the present, because it's difficult to get past the greatness of players like Larry Bird and Magic Johnson and realize that guys like Durant and LeBron have comparable talents. Still, the '92 Dream Team dominated the world. The 2012 team has yet to play an exhibition. Reminds me of some other supposed "dream team"...

Don't go giving yourself not one, not two, not three, not four, not five gold medals before you've even practiced, LeBron. I figured you'd learned your lesson on that.

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Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:29 pm
 

LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

 
Let's take a look at the starting lineup of an average team in 1992 --- most starters in the league in 1992 wouldn't get off the bench in 2012. They'd be too slow, too short, and/or just not athletic enough to run with the modern day NBA player for 48 minutes.
Right, well as for an "average team", how is that relevant -- the "Dream Team" was hardly average for the day, and neither will ghe current olympic team be an "average" 2012 NBA lineup right? -- because Robinson and Ewing were too small?  Magic, a 6-9 point guard was too small or not athletic enough?  Stockton to slow, not athletic?  Malone slow and small too?  Jordan --so slow and unathletic, sure wish he could jump a little (sarcasm).  Pippen, Barkley, Drexler --awful.

Look, I am not going to judge it by who wins by the most points per game, as pointed out the world has caught up a lot in the last 20 years.  The 92 team faced few other teams with NBA players, now all the worlds big teams have NBA players.  That said, if you think the 92 team would get beat with any regularity by the expected 2012 team you're dreaming.  The 2012 team will be very good, and in indivdual games might win a few from the 92 team, but in a 7 game series I take the 92 team every day of the week.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:20 pm
 

LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

I actually think that the biggest difference besides the obvious (Jordan, Magic, and Bird) is that the '92 team had David Robinson and Patrick Ewing, two of the best pure centers to ever play the game. The quality that those two added to the team is one of unmistakeable proportions, height, dominating height.

Dwight Howard is becoming great, but still hasn't done enough to shake a stick at how DRob and Ewing were playing in '92.



Since: Mar 16, 2008
Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:17 pm
 

LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

The 1992 Dream Team would teach the 2012 team what it takes to be true champions and hall of famers. I would love to see Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, Deron Williams and Dwayne Wade try and stop Michael Jordan, John Stockton, Clyde Drexler, and Magic. Those 4 guys were the absolute leaders of some of the greatest teams arguably in history.  Blake Griffen, Chris Bosh, and Kevin Durant would get absolutely pummeled in the post. Not a single player on the 2012 team could stop Malone, Robinson, Ewing, and Barkley.  Scottie Pippen could D-up Lebron and Durant take your pick.  Chris Mullen would rain three pointers when he is left unguarded due to all the double teaming on the other players.

I'm sorry no contest. Anyone who thinks the 2012 team would ever beat The Dream Team knows zero about basketball and doesn't realize how watered down the NBA has become.  There is absolutely no defense in the league today and that produces a boring regular season product.




Since: Feb 3, 2011
Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:12 pm
 

LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

92 would beat this team by 30..........Lebron is a farce.......



Since: Apr 28, 2010
Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:12 pm
 

LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

I remember watching the '08 game at 4am(Philly time) and had it not been for Wade's 20 in the first half and Kobe's 15 and 5 assists in the last 6 minutes Lebron wouldn't have a gold medal on his resume.  As far as the '92 team not having "the legs" to compete with this year's team, well, that's another funny one produced by the product.  Outside of Laettner, Bird, and Mullin, that team's "legs" would beat this years' team 8 out of 10 times, if not more.



Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:08 pm
 

What would you have said???

Cmon Royce. Its a respectable answer. Do think he's going to say they wouldn't stack up?? Thats just stupid.



Since: Mar 8, 2011
Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:08 pm
 

LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

As a whole, I believe today's NBA is faster than the one I watched growing up, but that's about it. Defense is worse, team-play seems worse, and rebounding is worse.  It's hard to compare two completely different generations of the sport since fundamentals has been trumped by athleticism.

As many have stated, the competition faced by the '92 team is not the same as they face nowadays. The international teams' best player may have compared with a bench player for the US....maybe. Today's Olympics are almost like a good March Madness tournament where any team can get hot and knock off a favorite.  

For everyone generation that claims they watched the best in the game, there will always be another generation bringing up the greats in their times. Chamberlain, Big O, Pistol Pete, Cousy, etc.  We all tend to watch the game through age-tinted glasses.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:04 pm
 

LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

In defense of "the guy" who doesn't know who Kevin Love is, who *would* know him outside of fantasy league buffs?  He's done it for ONE YEAR on a crappy team.  Compare that to the many years of high-level basketball on good teams displayed by pretty much everyone on the '92 team except for the big white Duke dude.  Chris Mullen, yeah, you can have him, too. The experience and longevity is what sets the '92 team apart -- everyone on that list except Laetner and Mullen made it to at least one finals, multiple titles between Jordan, Pippen, Robinson, Johnson, Bird, Drexler.  Compare that to 2012 -- only Kobe and Wade with titles, Bosh (for reals?!??) and LeBron with appearances. Biggest mistake coaches and GMs constantly make is over-rating athleticism and potential and under-rating smarts and experience.  Teamwork over "me first" any day of the week.  I though the Mavericks made that abundantly clear for everyone to see in the finals last year, but apparently not . . . . .



Since: Sep 12, 2011
Posted on: January 4, 2012 3:00 pm
 

LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

Oh please.  The 2012 team might win in a collective of one-on-one games, but the 1992 team is by far a better "team."  They were far more mature and cohesive than this team can ever be.



Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: January 4, 2012 2:56 pm
 

LeBron: 2012 team 'stacks up' with Dream Tream

I hate having this arguement, but whatever. 


People need to realize the level of competition in 1992 was far inferior than it is in 2012. Let's take a look at the starting lineup of an average team in 1992 --- most starters in the league in 1992 wouldn't get off the bench in 2012. They'd be too slow, too short, and/or just not athletic enough to run with the modern day NBA player for 48 minutes. LOL @ "dominated the world" -- uh yeh, it was 1992. There were college teams in 1992 that could beat most Olympic teams. Let's be realistic, how popular was basketball globally in 1992?   


The only thing the 1992 team has on the 2012 team is overall defense. The NBA wants points on the board, just like the NFL, so even if you want to play defense, you can't anymore; the NBA won't allow it. But aside from that, the 2012 would run those old legs off the court if the game is officiated the way it is currently. 


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