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Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Posted on: January 29, 2012 2:06 pm
Edited on: January 30, 2012 10:43 am
 
Amar'e Stoudemire is reportedly drawing interest from the 76ers. (Getty Images)
Posted by Ben Golliver 

The vultures are swirling around the big, rotten apple.

With the New York Knicks just 7-13 to start the season and All-Star forward Amar'e Stoudemire scoring 8 points per game less than last season, the first rush of trade winds is in effect.

CSNPhilly.com reports that it is the Philadelphia 76ers, an Atlantic Division rival, that phoned the Knicks to inquire about Stoudemire's availability.
According to a league source, the Sixers have inquired about Stoudemire, though it was categorized as “due diligence.” Nothing is said to be imminent or even in the early stages other than just talk, the source said. Nevertheless, in past seasons the Sixers were reportedly discussing trade scenarios with the Phoenix Suns in order to acquire Stoudemire.
The Knicks' early season struggles are well-documented. Without a capable point guard to point the group in the right direction, New York has stumbled out of the gate and is currently tracking to be a lottery team despite the presence of two All-Stars and Tyson Chandler in the starting lineup.

Stoudemire, who drew some MVP talk last season, has been hit particularly hard, averaging just 17.7 points and shooting 42.8 percent from the field so far this season. For comparison, he hasn't averaged less than 20 points in a season in which he was healthy since his rookie year in 2002-2003 and he's a career 53.3 percent shooter. His effectiveness on offense, the only side of the ball where he's a real difference-maker, has plummeted from elite to pedestrian.

To see those changes from a 29-year-old player of his caliber, even one with his injury history, is unusual. The obvious read here is that the struggles are of the situational variety. The lack of a backcourt plus the lockout-shortened season plus the presence of a ball-dominating Carmelo Anthony is a tricky trio for Stoudemire to overcome. Smart teams should be calling.

Of course that doesn't mean that he's actually going anywhere. Including this season, Stoudemire has roughly $83 million left to be payed on the massive contract he signed prior to last season. Given that he can't be amnestied by a team that trades for him, any suitor would assume all of the injury-related risk that the massive contract represents. With the new collective bargaining agreement's harsher luxury tax system kicking in soon, teams are expected to be increasingly wary of having monster type deals on their books for non-monster performers. 

The questions right now: Will Stoudemire return to form and, if so, when? If it doesn't happen soon, and in a big way, it will be next to impossible to trade him before the deadline. If it does happen, New York's motivation to keep him skyrockets. Unless his personal improvement brings with it an even deeper team-wide struggle, it's difficult to see a sweet spot created where other teams are interested in his services at his price and New York is willing to part ways.

This was a long-winded way of saying these rumors are premature.

Related: Another trade scenario, involving Stoudemire in a package to the Orlando Magic for All-Star center Dwight Howard, was also raised last week

Comments

Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2012 1:52 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Knicks fans should call for, and about, firing D'Antoni and getting rid of Carmelo...ASAP!

Knicks: currently...unwatchable.

Problems:

1. D'Antoni: the worst basketball "coach" in the league. Gets less, and less, from every player, year after year. Has no noticeable defensive concept, and we all know his offensive concept: let everyone (including JARED JEFFRIES!!!!!!) shoot 3s.
2. Carmelo: most over-rated, over-hyped superstar...in sports. The living definition of "ball hog." Just from her 10-second marriage to Kris Humphries, Kim Kardasian has a higher basketball IQ than
3. Chandler: an average center, at best. All the talk of him providing "15-20 pts and 10 rebs," per night: dream on. But, he CAN play defense, within a "system." Unfortunately, with D'Antoni, there's no system.
,
Solution:

Fire D'Antoni, replace him with a decent, comfortable recliner. He...sucks.
Trade Carmelo, for...anyone. Just get rid of him. He's...cancer.




Since: May 29, 2011
Posted on: January 30, 2012 12:52 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

I am a Laker fan but I can tell you this, Mello was not worth what was paid for him & this garbage of collecting so called super stars is I think a little over rated. I for one would rather see the Lakers trade everyone including Kobe for nothing but 1st round draft picks & end uip with a team like the Thunder rather then like the Heat.



Since: Feb 6, 2011
Posted on: January 30, 2012 12:46 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

I'd trade Amare, Toney Douglas and D'Antoni tomorrow for Thad Young, Lou Williams and a #1 draft pick.
But we all know the trade ain't gonna happen!!!
Why? Because it makes too much sense folks!!!
As a Knick fan - mgmnt just doesn't have the ability to pull off a fair trade!!!
The only silver lining to a losing year is that D'Antoni will be gone sooner rather than later!!
I am sick and tired of excuses about players, defense, 3 point chuckers etc.



Since: Jul 26, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2012 12:07 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Would be a good trade if they can pull it off.



Since: Jul 29, 2008
Posted on: January 30, 2012 10:36 am
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

I like the fit to the 76ers. Hope it happens



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: January 30, 2012 10:29 am
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Totally in agreement with you.. Nice Post



Since: Aug 23, 2007
Posted on: January 30, 2012 9:47 am
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

I don't think there is any validity in the Staudamire situation. The sixers were looking around the league trying to make
their ballclub better and they asked about Amare on happen stance.

It's obvious that from a chimistry stand point, the Knicks situation is a failure. Amare and Melo are two guys who want
the ball and it negating what the other does best.

If the Knicks were smart, they'd move Amare for another Power forward who is more of a glass eater and defender who
would be more of a complement to Melo and not a hinderance. For example, you put Al Horford in Amare's position
next to Chandler where the emphasis could be on Horford and Chandler playing defense and the offense flowing through
Melo. That would be better chemistry. But a point guard is still going to be needed regardless.

The knicks leting Chancey go and then earlier, letting Jamal Crawford leave the team a couple of years ago has hurt
them big time.



Since: Apr 18, 2008
Posted on: January 30, 2012 9:04 am
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

The problem in New York may be as simple as Carmelo and Amare are too much alike in the offensive and defensive scheme. In their haste in putting together the Anthony trade consideration was not given to all the pieces fitting in together. Careful planning should be a top priority in fixing the chemistry with the right players forming a team concept.





Since: Feb 1, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2012 8:24 am
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

What type of deal would the Sixers be willing to offer? If I'm NY, I'm listening as long as the deal doesn't involve Elton Brand.

I wouldn't mind an Iguodala + Lou Williams OR Evan Turner trade. The #2 overall pick Turner isn't really getting the chance on a team that is so deep. So Iggy plus their capable backup PG, or Evan Turner is a trade I would explore.

I might even take Thad Young to replace Amare + one of those aforementioned.



Since: Feb 1, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2012 8:22 am
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

What type of deal would the Sixers be willing to offer? If I'm NY, I'm listening as long as the deal doesn't involve Elton Brand.

I wouldn't mind an Iguodala + Lou Williams OR Evan Turner trade. The #2 overall pick Turner isn't really getting the chance on a team that is so deep. So Iggy plus their capable backup PG, or Evan Turner is a trade I would explore.

I might even take Thad Young to replace Amare + one of those aforementioned.


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