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Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Posted on: January 29, 2012 2:06 pm
Edited on: January 30, 2012 10:43 am
 
Amar'e Stoudemire is reportedly drawing interest from the 76ers. (Getty Images)
Posted by Ben Golliver 

The vultures are swirling around the big, rotten apple.

With the New York Knicks just 7-13 to start the season and All-Star forward Amar'e Stoudemire scoring 8 points per game less than last season, the first rush of trade winds is in effect.

CSNPhilly.com reports that it is the Philadelphia 76ers, an Atlantic Division rival, that phoned the Knicks to inquire about Stoudemire's availability.
According to a league source, the Sixers have inquired about Stoudemire, though it was categorized as “due diligence.” Nothing is said to be imminent or even in the early stages other than just talk, the source said. Nevertheless, in past seasons the Sixers were reportedly discussing trade scenarios with the Phoenix Suns in order to acquire Stoudemire.
The Knicks' early season struggles are well-documented. Without a capable point guard to point the group in the right direction, New York has stumbled out of the gate and is currently tracking to be a lottery team despite the presence of two All-Stars and Tyson Chandler in the starting lineup.

Stoudemire, who drew some MVP talk last season, has been hit particularly hard, averaging just 17.7 points and shooting 42.8 percent from the field so far this season. For comparison, he hasn't averaged less than 20 points in a season in which he was healthy since his rookie year in 2002-2003 and he's a career 53.3 percent shooter. His effectiveness on offense, the only side of the ball where he's a real difference-maker, has plummeted from elite to pedestrian.

To see those changes from a 29-year-old player of his caliber, even one with his injury history, is unusual. The obvious read here is that the struggles are of the situational variety. The lack of a backcourt plus the lockout-shortened season plus the presence of a ball-dominating Carmelo Anthony is a tricky trio for Stoudemire to overcome. Smart teams should be calling.

Of course that doesn't mean that he's actually going anywhere. Including this season, Stoudemire has roughly $83 million left to be payed on the massive contract he signed prior to last season. Given that he can't be amnestied by a team that trades for him, any suitor would assume all of the injury-related risk that the massive contract represents. With the new collective bargaining agreement's harsher luxury tax system kicking in soon, teams are expected to be increasingly wary of having monster type deals on their books for non-monster performers. 

The questions right now: Will Stoudemire return to form and, if so, when? If it doesn't happen soon, and in a big way, it will be next to impossible to trade him before the deadline. If it does happen, New York's motivation to keep him skyrockets. Unless his personal improvement brings with it an even deeper team-wide struggle, it's difficult to see a sweet spot created where other teams are interested in his services at his price and New York is willing to part ways.

This was a long-winded way of saying these rumors are premature.

Related: Another trade scenario, involving Stoudemire in a package to the Orlando Magic for All-Star center Dwight Howard, was also raised last week

Comments

Since: Nov 27, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:27 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

WOW ........


I should read this article over and over and over again.... FINALLY one here on CBSSPORTSLINE that takes a wide view of the whole picutre and in the end knows that what he wrote is .................   Just some B.S. to fill some space.


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Since: Oct 30, 2010
Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:10 pm
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Since: Jul 24, 2011
Posted on: January 29, 2012 8:55 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

 would want brand, jrue holliday and thadeus young in return plus draft picks. anything less than that shouldnt even be discussed

Haha, come on man!  Maybe 25 year old Amare would be worth that package but not a 29 year old version with his bad contract, bad defense and bad knees.  The reality is, this experiment failed.  The Knicks need to fire the coach and blow this thing up by trading both Amare and Carmelo.  Problem is, Im not sure who would be willing to give up "fair value" for either of those contracts... maybe the Nets who are desperate to get another star to open up their new digs. 


"If" the Sixers were to trade for Amare, they certaintly would not create a new weakness on their team by trading a 21 year old up and coming point guard in Jrue Holiday (or even Evan Turner for that matter).  The Knicks would be "lucky" to get a team player like Elton Brand who is selfless enough to play next to a guy like Carmelo Anthony.  He defends, rebounds and would pair up very nicely with Chandler.  Add Nocioni's expiring contract and a first round pick and THAT would be more realstic.  I understand that you paid an arm and a leg to get Amare but he simply does not have the value that he once had and he has very little value on the Knicks as currently constituted so it makes no sense to keep both of those players.  Best case scenario is that the Knicks would be ESTATIC to get Brand and Thad and Im not sure I would do that if I were the Sixers; but I might. 

After that move, the Knicks would be smart to trade an expiring contract and pick to Toronto for a guy like Jose Calderon to run the point (he is currently being shopped).  Calderon has experience playing with a gunner like Bargani and still manages to get other mediocre players involved by averaging close to 10 assists per game.  The Knicks would have alot more chemistry with moves like these and they are much more realistic for a Knick team trying to field a competitve team.       

  



   



Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: January 29, 2012 8:45 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

the knicks are a joke. its hard to believe but they got somebody dummer than isaiah thomas making decisions. surely they are not go panic and tradesome of those guys just because ofa losing streak. they have been rebuilding for 40 years. seems amazing that someone with all that radio money cannot put  good team together. they are the clippers east.



Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 8:36 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Best team in hockey.



Since: Jan 19, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 8:14 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

haha luv it NY Knacks panicking i say trade  chandler melo and stoudamire and start anew.  geez it would only be hmmm 39 yrs since you won the last of your TWO championships.  Im a NYer why is thmadison sq garden known as the most famous arena? certainly not for its TWO LAME teams.



Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 7:21 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Carmelo is the problem....this is why NBA players can`t dictate where they go!!  Now rumora are James is unhappy in Miami.



Since: Dec 20, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 7:19 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Melo has absolutely destroyed the Knicks. All the guy does is jack up 25-30 shot attempts a game and if he's luck he makes 6-7 baskets and makes trips to the FT line where he boosts his point total. Its really just an illusion that he's some kind of great scorer when he has to take 3 times more shots than anyone else on the court just to rack up a point total.  And he simply isn't coordinated or fast enough to play in transition, the only way he can make his fancy layup occasionally is if he can get into his slowdown isolation zone of 1 on 1 street ball with the opposing team.

Melo doesn't even put any effort into playing D but a few minutes a game at most, and even if he did focus on D more he sucks at it. 

There's a reason why Denver is 32-12 since the trade and the Knicks are 20-28, and that reason is all Melo. What's most pathetic is how Melo doesn't have an ambition or clue on how to win as a team player, seems like the only thing he cares about is getting his numbers, not the team. And while the new Nuggets are beating good teams, the Melo-Knicks are repeatedly getting schooled by the worst teams in the league.



Since: May 24, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 7:18 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Exactly, Why would the up and coming sixers help their divisional rival who have no chemistry and are just individuals on the court, they have no flow, and Melo hogs the ball to much while his teammates stand around and watch. Believe me,sixers fans have seen this before.



Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 7:01 pm
 

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

ThuggetsFan says:


" A lot of crazy talk on here. If CP3 is the PG for the Knicks they would kill it. A true point guard would prevent Melo from clearing out all the time and hogging the ball. Plus Amare would average close to 25 with CP3. The Knicks should be working a deal for Melo. As a Nuggets fan I can tell you he is garbage. I wanted him gone three years before he was. He doesn't make anyone on the team better and if the Knicks could get a haul comparable to what we got they would be doing okay. "


Your name says it all - Thuggets fan, not a Nuggets fan.  Carmelo Anthony was the major reason that the Denver Nuggets franchise went from the worst in the NBA to a perennnial playoff team and was a great player for the Nuggets despite the bull you have to say about him.  Melo isn't the reason the Knicks are sucking it up right now; it's the dumb Knicks front office that traded away a bunch of young talent for Carmelo and Chauncey Billups, then was too cheap to keep Mr. Big Shot on the team.  If Billups was still a Knick, the team would be much, much better.  Give the blame to where it belongs.  Melo is still one of the best players in the NBA bar none.  Amar'e Stoudemire begged the front office to bring Melo to NYC; classic case of be care what you wish for, as there is always some sort of cost.  


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