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Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Posted on: January 29, 2012 2:06 pm
Edited on: January 30, 2012 10:43 am
Amar'e Stoudemire is reportedly drawing interest from the 76ers. (Getty Images)
Posted by Ben Golliver 

The vultures are swirling around the big, rotten apple.

With the New York Knicks just 7-13 to start the season and All-Star forward Amar'e Stoudemire scoring 8 points per game less than last season, the first rush of trade winds is in effect. reports that it is the Philadelphia 76ers, an Atlantic Division rival, that phoned the Knicks to inquire about Stoudemire's availability.
According to a league source, the Sixers have inquired about Stoudemire, though it was categorized as “due diligence.” Nothing is said to be imminent or even in the early stages other than just talk, the source said. Nevertheless, in past seasons the Sixers were reportedly discussing trade scenarios with the Phoenix Suns in order to acquire Stoudemire.
The Knicks' early season struggles are well-documented. Without a capable point guard to point the group in the right direction, New York has stumbled out of the gate and is currently tracking to be a lottery team despite the presence of two All-Stars and Tyson Chandler in the starting lineup.

Stoudemire, who drew some MVP talk last season, has been hit particularly hard, averaging just 17.7 points and shooting 42.8 percent from the field so far this season. For comparison, he hasn't averaged less than 20 points in a season in which he was healthy since his rookie year in 2002-2003 and he's a career 53.3 percent shooter. His effectiveness on offense, the only side of the ball where he's a real difference-maker, has plummeted from elite to pedestrian.

To see those changes from a 29-year-old player of his caliber, even one with his injury history, is unusual. The obvious read here is that the struggles are of the situational variety. The lack of a backcourt plus the lockout-shortened season plus the presence of a ball-dominating Carmelo Anthony is a tricky trio for Stoudemire to overcome. Smart teams should be calling.

Of course that doesn't mean that he's actually going anywhere. Including this season, Stoudemire has roughly $83 million left to be payed on the massive contract he signed prior to last season. Given that he can't be amnestied by a team that trades for him, any suitor would assume all of the injury-related risk that the massive contract represents. With the new collective bargaining agreement's harsher luxury tax system kicking in soon, teams are expected to be increasingly wary of having monster type deals on their books for non-monster performers. 

The questions right now: Will Stoudemire return to form and, if so, when? If it doesn't happen soon, and in a big way, it will be next to impossible to trade him before the deadline. If it does happen, New York's motivation to keep him skyrockets. Unless his personal improvement brings with it an even deeper team-wide struggle, it's difficult to see a sweet spot created where other teams are interested in his services at his price and New York is willing to part ways.

This was a long-winded way of saying these rumors are premature.

Related: Another trade scenario, involving Stoudemire in a package to the Orlando Magic for All-Star center Dwight Howard, was also raised last week


Since: Mar 18, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:55 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Go get him! Unless they want to trade rape Philly, they have to make that move. 

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:38 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Melo < Iverson = No titles

Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:38 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Dont you mean the Knicks would never do that?

Since: Jun 29, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:27 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

sixers would never do that

Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:21 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Personally as a Sixers fan I think I would rather have Chandler than Amare, the guy plays no defense. I think a middle presence would really help this team. They can score with anyone. They have problems getting overmatched in the paint. 

Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:10 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Melo is nothing more than an old school, one on one player.  

If they could score a PG, and I think Paul is staying in LA, that would greatly help.  Even getting Davis back and up to speed would be a great step up.  But I think the first real step to the Knicks doing anything is getting rid of Melo while they still can get top dollar for him.

Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 5:38 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

springman711 - yeah the Knicks are a mess, but as you say, New York does have the Giants in the SuperBowl. And while they haven't won anything yet, the last time I checked the Rangers were leading the NHL in points.

Since: Jul 24, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 5:27 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

A lot of crazy talk on here. If CP3 is the PG for the Knicks they would kill it. A true point guard would prevent Melo from clearing out all the time and hogging the ball. Plus Amare would average close to 25 with CP3. The Knicks should be working a deal for Melo. As a Nuggets fan I can tell you he is garbage. I wanted him gone three years before he was. He doesn't make anyone on the team better and if the Knicks could get a haul comparable to what we got they would be doing okay.

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 5:26 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

There are enough balls to go around for both Melo and Carmelo, so this is on the coach.

Yep, that's about right.  Enough for Melo twice, and no one else.  Don't blame the coach, blame the coach-killer. Melo.

Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 5:25 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

You're kidding, right? Who on the team has an ego other than Melo? Amare has basically shelved his ever since Melo's arrival. I don't recall his complaining about his declining stats in the media at all...the guy just wants to win and that hasn't happened ever since the trade. Same goes for Chandler. Hate to disagree with the statement that Chandler, Fields and Melo form a very strong core. Chandler is a nice player; however, Fields' is not nearly the same player he was pre-Melo - his game has totally disintegrated.

One thing is for certain and that is Denver management robbed NY when Melo could have been had for peanuts. But this is what happens when you have an idiot for an owner. From another post, how can the Knicks' record be put squarely on D'Antoni? I seem to recall the team playing pretty well prior to the trade last year. The coach never asked for the roster to be gutted in favor of a one dimensional, ball dominant player in Melo. The Knicks are now a shell of a team; they are shooters, no guard play play, a gutted bench and no future, ie, no draft picks that haven't been completey traded away or swapped, save next year's 1st round pick. 

There's no denying Melo's considerable talent, but there's a reason he never did anything in Denver. Look at the Nuggets now: no Felton, no Chandler. If you can ignore the fact that New York gave up a bevy of picks, it basically boils down to Gallo and his team at 14 - 5 outplaying Melo and the 7 - 13 Knicks.

The only reason I would be willing to trade STAT is the huge uninsured contract. The Knicks where in desperation mode when they made that would think they would have learned their lesson with the Houson deal.

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