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Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Posted on: January 29, 2012 2:06 pm
Edited on: January 30, 2012 10:43 am
Amar'e Stoudemire is reportedly drawing interest from the 76ers. (Getty Images)
Posted by Ben Golliver 

The vultures are swirling around the big, rotten apple.

With the New York Knicks just 7-13 to start the season and All-Star forward Amar'e Stoudemire scoring 8 points per game less than last season, the first rush of trade winds is in effect. reports that it is the Philadelphia 76ers, an Atlantic Division rival, that phoned the Knicks to inquire about Stoudemire's availability.
According to a league source, the Sixers have inquired about Stoudemire, though it was categorized as “due diligence.” Nothing is said to be imminent or even in the early stages other than just talk, the source said. Nevertheless, in past seasons the Sixers were reportedly discussing trade scenarios with the Phoenix Suns in order to acquire Stoudemire.
The Knicks' early season struggles are well-documented. Without a capable point guard to point the group in the right direction, New York has stumbled out of the gate and is currently tracking to be a lottery team despite the presence of two All-Stars and Tyson Chandler in the starting lineup.

Stoudemire, who drew some MVP talk last season, has been hit particularly hard, averaging just 17.7 points and shooting 42.8 percent from the field so far this season. For comparison, he hasn't averaged less than 20 points in a season in which he was healthy since his rookie year in 2002-2003 and he's a career 53.3 percent shooter. His effectiveness on offense, the only side of the ball where he's a real difference-maker, has plummeted from elite to pedestrian.

To see those changes from a 29-year-old player of his caliber, even one with his injury history, is unusual. The obvious read here is that the struggles are of the situational variety. The lack of a backcourt plus the lockout-shortened season plus the presence of a ball-dominating Carmelo Anthony is a tricky trio for Stoudemire to overcome. Smart teams should be calling.

Of course that doesn't mean that he's actually going anywhere. Including this season, Stoudemire has roughly $83 million left to be payed on the massive contract he signed prior to last season. Given that he can't be amnestied by a team that trades for him, any suitor would assume all of the injury-related risk that the massive contract represents. With the new collective bargaining agreement's harsher luxury tax system kicking in soon, teams are expected to be increasingly wary of having monster type deals on their books for non-monster performers. 

The questions right now: Will Stoudemire return to form and, if so, when? If it doesn't happen soon, and in a big way, it will be next to impossible to trade him before the deadline. If it does happen, New York's motivation to keep him skyrockets. Unless his personal improvement brings with it an even deeper team-wide struggle, it's difficult to see a sweet spot created where other teams are interested in his services at his price and New York is willing to part ways.

This was a long-winded way of saying these rumors are premature.

Related: Another trade scenario, involving Stoudemire in a package to the Orlando Magic for All-Star center Dwight Howard, was also raised last week


Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 5:24 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

LiLSpike0738.... as long as the Knicks keep Melo, they'll never be a champion.  End of discussion.  Glad to see the pipe dreams of a Big Apple Big Three (Melo, STAT, CP3) gone, and an epic collapse in its place.

Since: Dec 18, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:57 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

What the Knick fan dose not  understand is that the Knicks suck!!!!!!!! The Knicks have to come to that conclusion and blow da think up!  anyway you got the Giants in the Superbowl!!

Since: Jun 21, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:41 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

I agree with below comment.

The coach cannot handle all these egos. There simply aren't enough balls around for both Melo, Stoudemire, Fields, Chandler and others to get the necessary shots to be effective. They need to keep Melo and build a team around him with stuff they can get from trading Stoudmire.

Keep Chandler, Fields and Melo. Build a team around that very strong core. Stoudemire requires a team much like NO, NJ or LA. He puts up great stats when he is by himself, but he cannot carry a team by himself. He is too injury prone, and not THAT dominant. Trade Stoudemire to NO for some expiring contracts and/or picks. Pick up a veteran in FA and draft a solid PG to carry this team.

Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:39 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

i would want brand, jrue holliday and thadeus young in return plus draft picks. anything less than that shouldnt even be discussed.

Geez...forgot how to post on here...was talking about this group of players. But seriously, Melo is the guy that needs to go...the Knicks have been a mess since he got here.

Since: Feb 16, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:32 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Broncos, Stoudamire was a human wrecking ball last season without Nash.  It wasn't until Melo arrived that he, and the Knicks started their free fall.   I don't even think it's Melo's fault.  When you have talent, and cannot win, you have to look at the coach.  There are enough balls to go around for both Melo and Carmelo, so this is on the coach. 

Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:32 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

This sounds like a great package...why not do it for Melo instead?

Since: Oct 28, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:14 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

He needs someone to feed him the ball down low, he can't create anything. Nash did all the creating foe him in Phoenix. A trade with Philly would be a real smart one for both teams. Philly's got the guard that N.Y. needs even if they trade Amare. In Philly Stoudamire would be the best post option and have the guys to get him the ball. Only thing success more important than losing in N.Y.?

Since: Jan 12, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:08 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Amare can't handle it not being HIS team anymore. Melo is clearly the number one option on the knicks now and stoudamire isnt man enough to handle his role. Trade him , fire D'Antoni and bring back John Starks and Charles Oakley. baron davis, john starks, melo. oak and Chandler and head coach Phil Jackson . Lets go Knicks  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:00 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Remember all the talk last Summer about the next Big 3... Melo, Amare and CP3??  If CP3 was with the Knicks this season, would it have made a big difference at this point?  I personally did not believe the Knicks had enough even if CP3 went there.  Melo wanted to be in NY so badly... Is he happy right now?  He should have stayed in Denver, and tried to talk some of his buddies into coming there.    

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:51 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

The whole "it starts with a point guard" mantra is such bull crap.
Fisher isn't elite, but he's very underrated.  Rondo was also very underrated in '08.  He wasn't in '09, you think that's because he turned it on or because everyone got to see him play in the '08 playoffs?  Parker?  He played on defense driven teams, scored the 2nd most points on the team, and created mismatch problems against other point guards with his speed.  Kidd?  Despite his age, he was still 6th in assists and 8th in APG.  The truth is that it DOES start with the point guard.  He's the guy who manages the offense.
I could keep going on and on, but I'm sure you understand my point by now. Don't get me wrong; it would certainly help if the Knicks had a point guard, but constantly citing that as the primary reason that they are struggling is silly. The Knicks are struggling because their defense sucks and they have a coach who has no idea how to teach it. It's not because they don't have Chris Paul at point.
The defense in Phoenix sucked too, but D'Antoni seemed to do pretty well there with an elite point guard.  But, to your point, they're defensive rating this season for the Knicks is the best it's been since '00-'01.  In fact, it's 5 points better than any season since '00-'01 and 10 points better than any D'Antoni led Knicks team.  They're offense?  The worst offensive rating since '98-'99.  But you keep playing the "defense is crap" card.  I mean, in DRating, they're only 10th in the league while in ORating, they're 25th.

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