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Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Posted on: January 29, 2012 2:06 pm
Edited on: January 30, 2012 10:43 am
Amar'e Stoudemire is reportedly drawing interest from the 76ers. (Getty Images)
Posted by Ben Golliver 

The vultures are swirling around the big, rotten apple.

With the New York Knicks just 7-13 to start the season and All-Star forward Amar'e Stoudemire scoring 8 points per game less than last season, the first rush of trade winds is in effect. reports that it is the Philadelphia 76ers, an Atlantic Division rival, that phoned the Knicks to inquire about Stoudemire's availability.
According to a league source, the Sixers have inquired about Stoudemire, though it was categorized as “due diligence.” Nothing is said to be imminent or even in the early stages other than just talk, the source said. Nevertheless, in past seasons the Sixers were reportedly discussing trade scenarios with the Phoenix Suns in order to acquire Stoudemire.
The Knicks' early season struggles are well-documented. Without a capable point guard to point the group in the right direction, New York has stumbled out of the gate and is currently tracking to be a lottery team despite the presence of two All-Stars and Tyson Chandler in the starting lineup.

Stoudemire, who drew some MVP talk last season, has been hit particularly hard, averaging just 17.7 points and shooting 42.8 percent from the field so far this season. For comparison, he hasn't averaged less than 20 points in a season in which he was healthy since his rookie year in 2002-2003 and he's a career 53.3 percent shooter. His effectiveness on offense, the only side of the ball where he's a real difference-maker, has plummeted from elite to pedestrian.

To see those changes from a 29-year-old player of his caliber, even one with his injury history, is unusual. The obvious read here is that the struggles are of the situational variety. The lack of a backcourt plus the lockout-shortened season plus the presence of a ball-dominating Carmelo Anthony is a tricky trio for Stoudemire to overcome. Smart teams should be calling.

Of course that doesn't mean that he's actually going anywhere. Including this season, Stoudemire has roughly $83 million left to be payed on the massive contract he signed prior to last season. Given that he can't be amnestied by a team that trades for him, any suitor would assume all of the injury-related risk that the massive contract represents. With the new collective bargaining agreement's harsher luxury tax system kicking in soon, teams are expected to be increasingly wary of having monster type deals on their books for non-monster performers. 

The questions right now: Will Stoudemire return to form and, if so, when? If it doesn't happen soon, and in a big way, it will be next to impossible to trade him before the deadline. If it does happen, New York's motivation to keep him skyrockets. Unless his personal improvement brings with it an even deeper team-wide struggle, it's difficult to see a sweet spot created where other teams are interested in his services at his price and New York is willing to part ways.

This was a long-winded way of saying these rumors are premature.

Related: Another trade scenario, involving Stoudemire in a package to the Orlando Magic for All-Star center Dwight Howard, was also raised last week


Since: Jun 28, 2011
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:49 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

TO the IDIOT you crazy if you think Amare is worth Young and Holiday plus picks..Sixers need to just stand pad. They are a player away from a 50 game winning team each year. Schedule has also been nice to them playing at home so much against crap teams but they are winning. Knicks traded away too much last year for one player and the Sixers are no way going to go crazy to get Amare. Knicks are the worst run team in basketball , pretty much like the Raiders..Can not do anything right

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:48 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Don't even know why the Sixers would call. Why dismantle what works in Philly for a guy that averages 17 ppg ? Collins team concept and Stoudamire wouldn't be asked to do any more than that. I'd rather the Sixers wait to be in on a Howard deal with the Magic. But let's see how this pans out first, the Sixers are the # 3 seed, and if the Bulls win today, they get the # 2 seed back in the East. No offense, but the Knicks wasted effort for Tyson Chandler if they go after Howard and get him. Center is the piece the Sixers are missing, both 7 footers out, one with a bad knee, the other with an achilles injury. 14-6 with those two sitting the last 6 and 4 games for each player. The Knicks have nothing the Sixers want.

Since: Aug 2, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:41 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

shawn youre delusional. thats 37ppg 14 reb 7 ast per game AND you want picks to LOL

Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:36 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

The knicks need to stick it out and wait to see if Baron Davis can help with the poor point guard play
1) He's still hurt

2) He's going to be out of basketball shape, even if he feels fine.

3) He has to learn D'Antoni's system.

4) He's old.

5) This is only a 66 game season and the season is nearly 1/3 over.

IMO, the Knicks either throw another year and sign Nash this off-season, or they call Phoenix, offer Shumpert(overrated by too many fans) and get Steve NOW! The problem is if they tank 2011-2012 Mike won't survive to finally get the PG who can truly run his system. Seems to me if you want to give him a shot, get him his guy.

Oh, I don't want to wait for D-Will, the punk coach killer.

Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:30 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Holiday in your dreams
The Knicks would be morons to deal Stoudamire as overrated as he is w/out Holiday coming back. Philly wants him, Holiday goes.

Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:29 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

i would want brand, jrue holliday and thadeus young in return plus draft picks. anything less than that shouldnt even be discussed.

I'd do that too. Turner is a good player as well who can be their shooting guard. They could also go with a small line-up playing melo and Turner together @ times. Harrelson could fill-in @ the 4 when he returns.

Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:26 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Related: Another trade scenario, involving Stoudemire in a package to the Orlando for All-Star center , was also
I'd do that trade in a second. Stoudemire is the most overrated player in the NBA.

Philly can have him for Holiday and E.Turner

Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:20 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

The whole "it starts with a point guard" mantra is such bull crap. Think about it; when was the last time a team that won a championship had a great point guard? Let's recap:

2011: Dallas - an old Jason Kidd. He was still effective, but far from being anything close to elite.
2010: Lakers - Derek Fisher. Moving on.
2009: See 2010.
2008: Celtics - Rajon Rondo. He's elite now, but in '08, he was merely a game manager whose job was to limit mistakes
2007: Spurs - Tony Parker. Finally; a good point guard, but he was hardly the core of that team. Duncan and Ginobili were both more important players.
2006: Heat - Gary Payton. LOL.
2005: Spurs - Parker again.
2004: Pistons - Chauncey Billups. Definitely a top-flight PG at the time.
2003: Spurs - Parker, yet again, and at this point, he was barely above average.
2000-2002: Lakers with Fisher.

I could keep going on and on, but I'm sure you understand my point by now. Don't get me wrong; it would certainly help if the Knicks had a point guard, but constantly citing that as the primary reason that they are struggling is silly. The Knicks are struggling because their defense sucks and they have a coach who has no idea how to teach it. It's not because they don't have Chris Paul at point.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:17 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Lol, shawn!  Why not just ask to trade the two teams straight up?  The sixers are building around Holiday, this is becoming more and more a point guard's league. Young and Brand, maybe.  Holiday in your dreams.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 3:17 pm

Sixers call Knicks about Amar'e Stoudemire trade?

Ah, let the dismantling of the shipwreck begin! What a joke: watch the Knicks not only implode but ensure that their division rivals become a powerhouse for another 5 years.  This would be a great move for Dolan to consolidate his reputation as the league's BIGGEST DUNCE.

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