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College football players need compensation

Posted on: July 25, 2010 8:26 am
The unenviable response to the USC Reggie Bush agent scheme has been typical.  Now every large program is calling players to the carpet and looking for that boogeyman to deflect problems with their own programs.  It is a well known fact that all college football programs dance between fairness and rule bending, whether it be recruiting, access to their programs or the long arm of their alumni.

The blirred lines of college football programs continually are called to question when a Reggie Bush emerges.  Reggie gained the glory and the heisman, was the talk of the town, generated millions of dollars for his university and raised the interest of blue chip players around the nation for his school.

Did he contribute? Beyond expectations and economically he would be considered a rainmaker top producer in the private sector.  His salary, a scholarship (22k) room and board (15k) produced untold millions for the University of Southern California.   And for the schools that sold out when USC played at their home fields.

The question is avoided in these matters.  Should college players be compensated?  They are top producers and generate for example an average of 25 million per team in the Big Ten.  There are 80 players.   That is $312,000 per man according to my trusty calculator.

This does not consider ALL of the revenues, this is TV and bowl sharing.  If you strip the ridiculously high coaches salaries now approaching 3 million dollars there is still 22 million plus dollars for a Big Ten school.  We have yet to discuss the lucrative licensensing contracts that generate 12 million dollars for the most rabid schools. 

Reggie Bush and Maurice Claurette are the tip of the iceburg.  Calling agents pimps and players essentially ladies of the night masks the real issue.  College football operates under and unfair labor system where compensation and revenues are extremely tilted.  More to come....


Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: July 28, 2010 6:29 pm

College football players need compensation

College football operates under and unfair labor system where compensation and revenues are extremely tiltedLabor system?  You're joking right?  They play a kids game, don't have to pay anything to use mostly world class facilities, and then leave for the riches of the NFL or NBA.  And those that don't go pro usually walk out with a gig from an alumni or booster or end up on the tube.

Why do we even have "amateur" sports anymore?  The Olympics and college sports are professional sports nowadays.  The NBA doesnt need a developemental league, they have the NCAA.  The same for all of the other major sports.  Do you think the five Kentucky players were there for the education?  Do you think if Duke players (I am a Duke fan) could get drafted after their freshman year they would stay? 

Why not, instead of calling people pimps and hookers, why not just get rid of the major sports altogether?  Keep fencing and whatnot, and make the NBA and the NFL create their own minor league system like MLB has, have the players form some form of union, and have them get paid.   If the players want to go to school, well then they can apply like everyone else and fill out their FAFSA and go into debt like the rest of us. 

The fact that Bush, Clarett, etc. were student-antyhings is a joke.  Sure, there are players that do go back (Clarett is after prison time and a failed career), but look at the horrible graduation rates amongst athletes.  These players aren't there for the academics, they are there for the minimum time required by their sport and to build a professional sports career.  And I am fine with that, more power to them for being born freakishly tall or freakisly big.  But get rid of the charade that they are students. 

But don't say they don't get something out of it.  And I would imagine for every Reggie Bush getting caught, there are 40 or 50 players getting away with it.  And make the players responsible for the penalites they bring down on their schools.  If USC is on probation, hit Bush where it counts, in his wallet.  Suspend him for a couple games.  Make it a true partnership between the two professional, I mean college and professional sports leagues, and be done with it.

No chance in hell any of this would ever happen.  Too many people are getting way too rich off of this system, players and coaches and administrators.  No change will ever happen, but we can dream, right?

Since: Oct 26, 2008
Posted on: July 28, 2010 4:32 pm

College football Fans Need a Grip College Life

These are some of the funniest posts ever.  And so many people think they are using logic.  What a joke!

College was almost free at my university 40 years ago.  Instead of playing football I had a part-time job that helped me share a $75 a month apartment and hopefully have enough money for food.  I was hungry often.  We used my girl friend's car for dates and I was able to afford $100 a semester for tuition.  Big deal, huh?

The college athlete lived in the jock's dorm, always had their training table stacked with food, and maybe had no more money than me.  We both got an education.  We both worked though I thought he was the beneficiary of athleticism and health and being with team mates while I just did some menial job. Neither of us starved, and I got to be rooting for a national champion with a 30 game win streak from '68-'70 while he got to be the National Champion.  I found a job with a BA in political science and he has some degree and a name that allowed him to get a big job in a bank though he had to prove himself to be more than just a pretty face and a valued Longhorn.

I don't resent the athlete on scholarship.  Good for him or her.  But to suggest the school compensate them with a salary/stipend for being an athlete is not right.  You want to pay someone based on the revenue their sport earns?  So will you take away the scholarships of the non-paying sport's athletes?

Colt McCoy should have received a paycheck?  Is is based on his skill, his family income, the number of wins, the revenue?

No, I imagine Colt did just fine.  He got the benefit of a "free" education and the benefits of having a family that had some means of support.  He wasn't there to see how much money he could make in pro football.  Few college football players have much of a pro career waiting for them.

Let the system stand.  Or call it 'training for a pro career' and make a contract with each college athlete that garnishes their pro sports wages for the four years following their leaving an instituion.  Use that money to lend athletes who need some spending cash during the school year.

But no matter how much you give them, they will soon want more.  We will have the defensive backs going on strike before the big game.  You want to see your star QB throw one away because he couldn't fly his momma to see him play?  I don't want to see that.

Since: Nov 9, 2009
Posted on: July 28, 2010 12:22 pm

College football players need compensation

Sort of goes against the term "amatuer" sports.

Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: July 28, 2010 10:10 am

College football players need compensation

The compensation is in scholarships. These guys are not going to cheap community colleges, they are going to USC, Miami, Florida, Texas. These universities cost an arm and leg. Are you saying a scholarship isn't getting paid? Where do you think the money goes? It goes straight to the tuition. That could be as high as $25,000-$30,000 a year. Some of these players are from low income families which means if they don't get scholarships, they might not be able to afford college at all.

Since: Mar 10, 2010
Posted on: July 28, 2010 9:29 am

College football players need compensation

Is that so much to ask for?  You last comment really hits home.

Parents subsidize their student children.  The lower income players do not have this kind of support.

It is expensive to live.  These boys earn it. 

A long term study would reveal that their lives are cut short by the game.

Since: Mar 10, 2010
Posted on: July 28, 2010 9:27 am

College football players need compensation

This is the kind of ranking that I want exposed and debunked.

The exact fact for paying a player is that they are only there for a short economic window that is tilted to the benefit of the school and the 3 million dollar coach.

I am suggesting balance, not the same uninformed, stereotypical response to a simple equation.

Profit sharing.  It is a concept that capitalists hate.  Exploitation of labor is the game, and universities know they are doing it.

Since: Mar 10, 2010
Posted on: July 28, 2010 9:23 am

College football players need compensation

I challenge anyone to travel with a football team, and mirror them for 1 week.  There is complete sacrifice.

I agree it is an opportunity of a life time for a young man of 18 years.

However, this whole dynamic has been tilted by huge payments that are not reflective of the free enterprise system that we are supposed to live in.

This is just another form of economic slavery.  Feel free to respond with a productive response.

Since: Mar 10, 2010
Posted on: July 28, 2010 9:19 am

College football players need compensation

thank you for the link!

Since: Mar 10, 2010
Posted on: July 28, 2010 9:17 am

College football players need compensation

Excellent logic and glad that someone actually wants to take a crack at calculating the potential outlay v loss of projected income for an individual athlete.

Of course, the only way that we can potentially get to the bottom of this, is to have an open book accounting of the tier 1 NCAA football programs.

Still have not heard enough about coaching salaries from this string. 

I am around the Michigan, Bowling Green and Ohio State programs to know enough about the commitment of the student athletes.

They are amazing and put their whole being on the line.

They reward their schools continually with honor and glory.

Keep up the good work.  This question will ultimately result in a more balanced has to.

Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: July 28, 2010 9:16 am

College football players need compensation

college football players RECEIVE compesation, it's called a FREE EDUCATION!!

I think any player that leaves a scholarship early to pursue pro athletics should have to pay back ALL of the tuition to the school so that someone that WANTS an education can use that money.

The above calculations assume that a practice field, equipment, stadium, office administrators, coaches, etc. are ALL free.  Like any other business, their are expenses involved.

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