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Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Posted on: September 19, 2010 8:55 pm
Edited on: September 21, 2010 2:58 pm



Note:  Clicking a team link in this blog will show you how everyone voted for that team.  Clicking a voter name link will show you their ballot.

Texas is fast becoming a computer darling.  The Longhorns are No. 1 in both the Sagarin and Massey BCS ratings.  Meanwhile the AP has Texas lowest of all the rankings at No. 7.  It may be a coincidence, but the Computer Science Department at The University of Texas currently boasts a 5% enrollment increase.  We’ll be watching that UTCS isn’t promising the computers more technical support in return for higher rankings.  (The jokes may get better as the season goes on, but no promises, and frankly, it’s unlikely.)

The coaches have Arizona lowest (No. 16) of any BCS component or the AP.  If only we could see the coaches’ ballots and how many of them rank Iowa over Arizona still.  Otherwise, the USA Today Poll is pretty standard fare this week.

In the AP, Craig James is the most extreme voter this week, which is rare for a national voter.  However, I doubt the fans will tag him with Bad Voter of the Week since five of his seven extreme picks were for ranks that are highest in the nation.  Nebraska at No. 3, Michigan at No. 14, Oregon State at No. 15, Penn State at No. 17, and Texas A&M at No. 25.  On the negative side he was one of two voters to rank Boise State (No. 7) and LSU (unranked) lowest.

We’ve finally reached a point of the season where we can start talking about head-to-head issues.  As a refresher, the AP Voting Guidelines state: “Pay attention to head-to-head results.”  Now, they don’t say to slavishly adhere to head-to-head results, but voters should certainly show good reason to go against the outcome on the field.  So at Pollspeak, we regularly point out people who don’t seem to be paying attention. For example:

10 voters still have Iowa ranked higher than Arizona after yesterday’s late night upset.  The two most extreme cases are Desmond Conner and Lisa Byington who have the Hawkeyes nine places over the Wildcats.    Being from Connecticut and Michigan, maybe they didn’t stay up to see the end result. In fact, Byington still ranks Iowa highest at No. 10.

Rob long who works for Fox radio in Baltimore, has Notre Dame ranked but not Michigan State.   He gave the Irish their only vote in the nation even though they have two losses, one of which was to the Spartans on Saturday.

Steve Conroy of the Boston Herald was the only voter not to rank Auburn, but strangely, he did rank Clemson.  So he was also the only voter to rank the Tigers over the Tigers….that is, Clemson Tigers over the Auburn Tigers.



John Shinn of The Norman Transcript was the only voter to rank California even though they were just blasted by undefeated Nevada.  However, he also didn’t rank the Wolf Pack team that did the blasting.  That’s a shame because with just four more points, Nevada could have had its first ranking since they climbed as high as No. 10 in 1948!



Since: Sep 20, 2010
Posted on: September 20, 2010 8:51 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2010 8:39 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Hawkeye, did you see the AZ Iowa game?? Iowa made some good adjustment at but they didn’t shut down AZ. Did you see how many times an Iowa drive was kept alive because of an AZ penalty? Did you see the muffed punt and fumble the let Iowa tie the game back up? AZ had 12 penalites for 100+ yards, punted few times (7 to 50) had more rushing and passing yard and time of possession. UofA got some lucky breaks to jump out to an early then started playing safe and let Iowa get back in the game. Iowa got some lucky breaks as well or it would have been an even worse loss. I’m not saying UofA would win every time, but to think Iowa would win 9 time out of 10 times is just absurd, put the kool-aid down man, your secondary got exposed and O-Line is just average. The D-line only great because of that one end (who UofA chipped all night and pretty much nullified him).

Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: September 20, 2010 4:29 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Well Fresno St. is on the schd to play the Huskers while the BS Donkeys made excuse's.

Smiles ID give it a rest you are in no position to demand a Million dollars when Idaho and Fresno are taking less get over it and bash someone else beside the Huskers.

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: September 20, 2010 4:23 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Darst you need to give Dodd an F.  I'm all for attacking ignorant pollsters, and you should attack Dodd as well so CBS has more credibility.  

He has GTech ranked even after they lost to Kansas.  He also has Pitt ranked ahead of Utah.  Same issue of Iowa ranked ahead of Arizona.  Michigan at #10 despite beating no one (UConn just lost to temple, ND has 2 losses) and giving up loads of yards/points to UMass. 

Honestly, go take away Dodd's power poll.  It doesn't make sense.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2010 4:08 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

BSU would put the wood to Nebraska.  And Nevada would do the same.  Shoot, Fresno State would probably beat you guys.


Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2010 3:28 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

I think that the people who have Iowa ranked ahead of Arizona saw the game.  They saw Iowa shoot itself in the foot with mistake, but also saw Iowa basically shut down the AZ offense except for one drive in the second half.  Now I give huge respect to Arizona for winning the game, but potential wise, Iowa wins that game 90% of the time.

Michigan State beat a moderately ok ND team on the last play in OT and gets sure.  When did ND become that good again?

All these polls are a joke right's really a stupid system for deciding how good a team is by having some east coast coach put in a vote for a west coast team they don't even watch.

Since: Oct 30, 2009
Posted on: September 20, 2010 3:15 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Clemson goes into Auburn and almost wins in overtime. Auburn is punished by moving up in all polls including the CBS poll from 16th to 14th. Clemson is rewarded by falling from 37th to 43rd in the CBS rankings. Does that make any sense? Michigan holds on to its rankings by crushing the mighty Minutemen of UMASS 42-37. Give me a break!

Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2010 1:37 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Your assessment is weak.  Wyoming gave Texas a handful IN TEXAS.  Yes, Texas pulled off a victory but it was closer than the final score.  BSU went to Laramie and walloped the same team.

Play your "take away the name" game and look at your "favorites'" schedules thus far:  Alabama-- creampuffs. Nebraska-- creampuffs.  Ohio State-- decent win against Miami, beyond that creampuffs.

BSU's schedule thus far is as tough as any, and they will play Idaho at Idaho and beat them by more than Nebraska did at home. They will be Nevada who thumped Cal.  They beat a VaTech team that will win the ACC.

Washington is weak, Idaho is weak, and Western Kentucky is terrible.

Weak, Good Old Boy argument is all your spouting, and it's tired.  BSU would put the wood to Nebraska.  And Nevada would do the same.  Shoot, Fresno State would probably beat you guys.

Since: May 25, 2007
Posted on: September 20, 2010 1:12 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

They should revoke the voting privleges of the guy who voted for ND to be 25th and didn't rank Michigan State. Clearly the guy is either completely incompetent or just making a mockery of the system. ND is1-2 buddy and lost to two unranked teams and barely beat another unranked team. How does that make them the 25th best team in the country?

Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2010 12:20 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

The ballot for Craig James isn't actually that bad. LSU is pretty so-so. I do disagree about Boise State though.

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