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Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Posted on: September 19, 2010 8:55 pm
Edited on: September 21, 2010 2:58 pm



Note:  Clicking a team link in this blog will show you how everyone voted for that team.  Clicking a voter name link will show you their ballot.

Texas is fast becoming a computer darling.  The Longhorns are No. 1 in both the Sagarin and Massey BCS ratings.  Meanwhile the AP has Texas lowest of all the rankings at No. 7.  It may be a coincidence, but the Computer Science Department at The University of Texas currently boasts a 5% enrollment increase.  We’ll be watching that UTCS isn’t promising the computers more technical support in return for higher rankings.  (The jokes may get better as the season goes on, but no promises, and frankly, it’s unlikely.)

The coaches have Arizona lowest (No. 16) of any BCS component or the AP.  If only we could see the coaches’ ballots and how many of them rank Iowa over Arizona still.  Otherwise, the USA Today Poll is pretty standard fare this week.

In the AP, Craig James is the most extreme voter this week, which is rare for a national voter.  However, I doubt the fans will tag him with Bad Voter of the Week since five of his seven extreme picks were for ranks that are highest in the nation.  Nebraska at No. 3, Michigan at No. 14, Oregon State at No. 15, Penn State at No. 17, and Texas A&M at No. 25.  On the negative side he was one of two voters to rank Boise State (No. 7) and LSU (unranked) lowest.

We’ve finally reached a point of the season where we can start talking about head-to-head issues.  As a refresher, the AP Voting Guidelines state: “Pay attention to head-to-head results.”  Now, they don’t say to slavishly adhere to head-to-head results, but voters should certainly show good reason to go against the outcome on the field.  So at Pollspeak, we regularly point out people who don’t seem to be paying attention. For example:

10 voters still have Iowa ranked higher than Arizona after yesterday’s late night upset.  The two most extreme cases are Desmond Conner and Lisa Byington who have the Hawkeyes nine places over the Wildcats.    Being from Connecticut and Michigan, maybe they didn’t stay up to see the end result. In fact, Byington still ranks Iowa highest at No. 10.

Rob long who works for Fox radio in Baltimore, has Notre Dame ranked but not Michigan State.   He gave the Irish their only vote in the nation even though they have two losses, one of which was to the Spartans on Saturday.

Steve Conroy of the Boston Herald was the only voter not to rank Auburn, but strangely, he did rank Clemson.  So he was also the only voter to rank the Tigers over the Tigers….that is, Clemson Tigers over the Auburn Tigers.



John Shinn of The Norman Transcript was the only voter to rank California even though they were just blasted by undefeated Nevada.  However, he also didn’t rank the Wolf Pack team that did the blasting.  That’s a shame because with just four more points, Nevada could have had its first ranking since they climbed as high as No. 10 in 1948!



Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2010 11:36 am

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

You know what ... it already exists, so I'm deleting mine and going there:

Since: Dec 13, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2010 11:30 am

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

This is the whole problem.  Folks claim that "every game counts," but they don't.  Most teams carefully arrange their nonconference schedules so as not to be embarrassed.

Look at Nebraska.  They "claim" willingness to play Boise, but the reality is that they want two games in Lincoln with a buyout clause for a return trip to Boise.  Then they balk at paying Boise a million to come there, but are happy to pay Idaho $800,000.  Why?  they see Idaho as an easy win, Boise, not so much.  Pure politics.  The truth is that most elite teams want no part of a challenging nonconference schedule.  They only want to do just barely enough to impress the figure skating judges, not actually take on the best.  When given the choice, most teams choose to play cupcakes, not evenly matched teams that would give all of us a much better idea of which teams, conferences and programs are truly superior.  Right now all we have is a handful of interconference games and the opinions of the lea leaf readers.

No, most teams set up their schedules with one eye on the polls.  It's all about perception and money, not who is the best team.

Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2010 10:27 am

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Actually, that was easier than I thought ...

Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: September 20, 2010 10:21 am

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

You know, Titanium Blade is right; we need a voice.  I was thinking much the same last week, but let it slide.  Now, things (and Craig James) have gone too far; it seems it is time for a football version of Jayhawk's "People's Poll".  The idea is simple:  take twenty regular voters from this site, chosen for reputation and a balance of regions and allegiances, get their Top 25 polls (with explanations) together in a thread by, say, every Tuesday morning, and then calculate the standings.

I'm going to have to go look at how Jayhawk did it, and that may take me until Thursday, but I think it is high time.

Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: September 20, 2010 12:42 am

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Mack Brown said that Texas would look at the computer rating system and make changes so that Texas would be more appealing. I'm surprised.
Results for Texas
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I guess Mack's changes  should be considered to be successful. These are the highest computer rankings I have ever seen for Texas.

Since: Jun 16, 2010
Posted on: September 20, 2010 12:15 am

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Hey, why don't we have an article about our expert pick. What does it take to become an "expert pick" anyway? Simple, YOUR OWN OPINION! The only facts around here are statistics, nothing else. So I cannot tell who's in who (because I have no access to stats and stuff), but i can give you my "expert" picks, I mean opinion picks:

1. Alabama  - defending champs
2. Ohio State
3. Oregon
4. Oklahoma
5. TCU
6. Nebraska
7. Texas
8. Boise State - they defeated only crappy opponents (thank you very much VT for losing to JMU)
9. Florida
10. Arkansas
11. Wisconsin
12. Arizona
13. Utah
14. South Carolina
15. LSU 
16. Stanford
17. Auburn
18. Miami (Florida)
19. Iowa
20. Southern California
21. Michigan
22. West Virginia
23. Penn State
24. Oregon State
25. Michigan State

Since: Dec 8, 2006
Posted on: September 19, 2010 11:54 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Anyone with Iowa ranked higher than ARIZONA is a moron, the Hawkeyes are slow, have a extremely overrated defense and the offense led by Stanzi(who cried and got up slow every time he was sacked, including 4 or 5 sacks on 4 or 5 consecutive plays in the 4th qtr.) was way worse than the yardage total shows.  Let me repeat, Stanzi was sacked on 4 or 5 CONSECUTIVE plays in the 4th qtr, and they are rated higher than the CATS, a joke for sure.  Everyone knows EXPERT is a relative and way to often misused term anyway!

Since: Apr 22, 2009
Posted on: September 19, 2010 11:29 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Well, I have to defend him since he put Nebraska at 3.

Boise, you can say whatever you want about them, but in college football right now, the regular season IS a playoff. If you take away the name and the hype, and just say a team blew out Wyoming, and also a team who lost to James Madison and has trouble with East Carolina, It doesnt sound like the best team in college football

LSU is tougher to leave out, But the only Nationally shown prime time game they had, they almost lost to a team without its like 7 best players or something. I love LSU, 2nd best place to be on a saturday (behind lincoln of course), But thats ugly.

Since: Jun 7, 2009
Posted on: September 19, 2010 10:47 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Come on Man!

Craig James!!  Craig James!!    I realize LSU is hard to watch, but unranked?   That's just low powered perception, dude.

Since: Dec 13, 2006
Posted on: September 19, 2010 10:46 pm

Pollspeak Goes Head-To-Head With The Voters

Is it really a true sport when you crown the winners based on the votes of judges?

Craig James=the East German judge.  Rob Long=the French judge, and so on. 

The truth is that a lot of these so-called experts don't even watch the games.  They have other agendas, to further their careers, boost their own home teams, or grind some personal axe.  In the case of Mr. James, maybe he's still trying to protect his son from those awful bullies at Texas Tech.  Who knows?

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