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Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Posted on: September 7, 2010 10:17 am
Edited on: September 7, 2010 6:14 pm
Posted by Chip Patterson

UPDATE (6:15 ET) - The Heisman Trophy Trust has issued a statement calling the Yahoo! report inaccurate.

UPDATE (3:30 ET) - Heisman spokesman Tim Henning told the LA Times, "The Heisman Trophy Trust has yet to make a decision, and until such time they do we have no further comment."

UPDATE (NOON ET)- ESPN's Chris Fowler just called into SportsCenter to claim that the Yahoo! report "is completely false."  We will continue to update this story as it develops.

athletic director Pat Haden publicly demanded that it be given back, but it is beginning to sound like Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush will have to give back one  of his most valuable pieces of hardware.

Tuesday morning, a Yahoo! report detailed reports from sources that indicate that the Heisman Trophy Trust is expected to strip Bush of college football's most prestigious individual award by the end of September.

Two sources close to the Heisman trust said the body’s investigation is coming to a close, and will ultimately concur with the NCAA's determination that Bush was ineligible during his Heisman-winning season in 2005. Because of that independent conclusion, sources said the trust will relieve Bush of the award and leave the honor for that season vacant.

The sources said Bush met with Heisman representatives last month at the New York law offices of Emmet, Marvin & Martin. The sources would not reveal details of that meeting.

The report continues to detail the investigation process, which was done internally by the Trust and took place over the last three months.  It also reports that Bush was given an opportunity to "impact the decision."

The NCAA has already ordered USC to remove all references to Bush from its sporting venues and promotional materials, as well as erase any statistics from games when he was ineligible.  The school has given back its copy of the award, but Bush has yet to speak up except for a brief apology to the school through Haden.

If the sources are correct, the ruling from the Trust would eliminate any possibility of the award being given to the runner-up, former Texas quarterback Vince Young.  Awarding Young the trophy was a suggestion that was supported by many, particularly Longhorns head coach Mack Brown.

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Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 2:12 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Your statement that Universities make millions idiots, makes no sense, are you telling me that the USC Football does not bring in revenue for non Student athletes, I would think it pays for quailty facilties and equipment so well deserved students, can work on research and new techniques, and the last time I checked Law,business,dance and theater majors were proud of their school and student athletes that play on Saturday afternoon.

Since: Sep 7, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 2:09 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Bush lost his amateur status and hence became professional when he started to accept consideration for playing football. For everyone who wants to give Bush a pass, its like saying, "Well, he hid the fact that he accepted money/gifts that nullified his amateur status, which is part of the basis of the Heisman Trophy, but since he was able to hide it for enough time, we shouldn't take his trophy away". Regardless if it took one week to determine he wasn't eligible or three years, he wasn't eligible to receive the Heisman based on HIS ACTIONS, not anyone elses. Amateur athletes receive these kind of trophies, and if he wanted to go pro, he could have done that and not be eligible for the Heisman and got his money above board. Essentially, by hiding his professional status from everyone, he denied the opportunity for true amateurs (at the time) like Vince Young from winning the Heisman, not to mention the damage he's caused USC. His "stats on the field" become meaningless once its determined he's not an amateur. This kind of punishment is harsh but needs to be done to hopefully stop it from occurring in the future.

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 2:03 pm
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Since: Mar 5, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:57 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

if u believe bush was the  best player that year; your crazy and he won because he flew thru the air against "fresno state." Just check the stats Vince Young had a better season than any qb in the last 10 yrs. Laughing

Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:54 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

He hurt those that chose to play by the rules.  Besides, Unethical behavior is not bad only if it hurst someone.  They are not trying to protect others from Bush, they are trying to protect others from agents. If there were no rules, these players would be open game. Many of these kids have never been out of their neighborhood, unless htey were on another court or field. To expect them to make good decisions when unscrupulous people will tempt them with every thing from sex to money to drugs, to fame, just so they will choose to bite from their apple. 

Full grown adults are almost incapable of declining lobbyist (code word for bribes), how can we expect youg people to be able to withstand the onslaught.  And the onslaught won't be jsust on the stars, the freinds of the stars will be given promises to if they can get their friend.  Of course those promises will rarely be fulfilled.  It is just a disaster waiting to happen.


The Great Equalizer

Since: Aug 26, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:52 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

i'm assuming that since bush was in college, that he was an adult capable of making his own decisions and knew the rules when he broke them anyway. you want to paint him as the victim in all of this ? HE and he alone did it to himself  and to his school. the heisman trophy is for amateur athletes, as soon as he accepted payment he became a professional. this dummy knew he'd be making millions in just another year or two, but took the "gifts" anyway. naturally he was probably assuming that he was special and not bound by the same rules as everyone else. you want the person that is most at fault in this situation to not have to accept the consequenses for his actions ? he should be stripped of the heisman. there were plenty of other deserving athletes that year that did not break the rules by accepting payments. if he gets to keep his trophy, where is the line drawn ? can a larry fitzgerald go back to play another year and possibly win the heisman ? quit trying to make a martyr out of poor, innocent reggie bush, the victim, will you please ? he needs to know that even 2 or 3 years later that his actions have consequences, why do you think so many college and pro athlets end up as nothing more than thugs and criminals ? probably because of all the special treatment they received along the way.

Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:47 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

I like your response but, it almost borders on saying that since the agents are not regulated properly the players should be allowed to flaunt the rules.

I don't think your saying that but, many people will read that into it.

The only way to regulate all the agents is to have their be a governmental regualtion requiring all agents to be ferderally licensed and then create a board to watch them.  Now, I like it, but I know how many of you don't want government involved in anything.  But there is no other way to do it.  The NFl could not legally require all agents to join a regulatory agency, only the government can do that. And you certainly don't want the states doing it, because there would be 50 different organization, where the agents could lobby(code word for bribery) every state official to make regualtions beneficial to them.
For those of you who think that this commotion over agent contacts is just  a lot to do about nothing, then, there seems only one way to end all this agent problem and that is to not have any rules pertaining to agent contact.  No rules no violations.  Simple huh?

So when faced with a difficult situation we should just unleash the hyenas so they may stalk our relatively young men and women in hopes of luring them to bite from their apple?

Good Call!

The Great Equalizer

Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:46 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

He was caught cheating, yes, but he never cheated on the field.
true, BUT he shouldnt have been on the USC field in the first place.
This is so stupid. How does this count as cheating and who did he hurt?
who did he hurt you ask!!!!!??? how about USC?????? Guys like Matt Barkley can now kiss their dream of winning a National Championship goodbye thanks to Reggie Bush and others at USC.

Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:40 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

"How does Bush taking money invalidate his play on the field?"

If USC was buying Bush it stands to reason that his offensive line, quarterback, wideouts and running backs are suspect as well.  If a school is buying players they are using an unfair method of attracting top talent.  That top talent gave Bush the support he needed to have his stellar season. 

what is it with some of you guys?  USC WASN'T PAYING ANYBODY.  a thug and convicted felon named lloyd lake gave reggie bush money in the hopes that he would eventually get to be his agent in the NFL.  USC HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PAYMENTS.  the NCAA has determined that USC should have known and done a better job of finding out that reggie was on the take from this guy.  

get it right.  but really, it's not your fault for being ignorant when most of the media don't know the story either. 

Since: Jun 17, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:39 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

When did the Heisman trust become relevent to anything in life and how is what Reggie Bush did any worse than what O.J. Simpson did?  If Heisman Trust was to be judge & jury then they should strip O.J.'s trophy for killing 2 people. 

This is the equivalent of stripping a teams victories several years after the season was over.  Other than a big blank frame where Reggie's Heisman picture was nobody's going to remember this other than in a Trivial Pursuit question. 

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