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Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Posted on: September 7, 2010 10:17 am
Edited on: September 7, 2010 6:14 pm
Posted by Chip Patterson

UPDATE (6:15 ET) - The Heisman Trophy Trust has issued a statement calling the Yahoo! report inaccurate.

UPDATE (3:30 ET) - Heisman spokesman Tim Henning told the LA Times, "The Heisman Trophy Trust has yet to make a decision, and until such time they do we have no further comment."

UPDATE (NOON ET)- ESPN's Chris Fowler just called into SportsCenter to claim that the Yahoo! report "is completely false."  We will continue to update this story as it develops.

athletic director Pat Haden publicly demanded that it be given back, but it is beginning to sound like Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush will have to give back one  of his most valuable pieces of hardware.

Tuesday morning, a Yahoo! report detailed reports from sources that indicate that the Heisman Trophy Trust is expected to strip Bush of college football's most prestigious individual award by the end of September.

Two sources close to the Heisman trust said the body’s investigation is coming to a close, and will ultimately concur with the NCAA's determination that Bush was ineligible during his Heisman-winning season in 2005. Because of that independent conclusion, sources said the trust will relieve Bush of the award and leave the honor for that season vacant.

The sources said Bush met with Heisman representatives last month at the New York law offices of Emmet, Marvin & Martin. The sources would not reveal details of that meeting.

The report continues to detail the investigation process, which was done internally by the Trust and took place over the last three months.  It also reports that Bush was given an opportunity to "impact the decision."

The NCAA has already ordered USC to remove all references to Bush from its sporting venues and promotional materials, as well as erase any statistics from games when he was ineligible.  The school has given back its copy of the award, but Bush has yet to speak up except for a brief apology to the school through Haden.

If the sources are correct, the ruling from the Trust would eliminate any possibility of the award being given to the runner-up, former Texas quarterback Vince Young.  Awarding Young the trophy was a suggestion that was supported by many, particularly Longhorns head coach Mack Brown.

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Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:37 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

small colleges benifit too, why do you think some of these BCS schools play a non conference game against these Sub div schools,because it pays for their athletic budget all year! and some schools do not have football, may have basketball,and if you go to a smaller school you will have get revenue some other way. as far as your comment on a tough back ground,they have to learn the hard way! you would have to walk in their shoe's 

Since: Jan 6, 2009
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:34 pm

Punish the agents and boosters

How about punishing the agents and boosters who are giving the money and gifts to the players and their families.  Make it so that if an agent does this that the agent is suspended from being an agent for a year or so.  If a booster does this that they lose they status as a booster for life.  The players are definitely in the wrong for accepting the gifts, but this happens at almost every school (and just the big name playersat big name schools that get caught are ever mentioned).   There wouldn't be a problem at all if the people handing out the gifts were the ones getting punished.

Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:33 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

You have a pretty small definition oif cheating.

Looking the other way, is perpetuating the cheating. One might call that an accomplice.  Actively working to thwart the an  investigation that is based upon the honor system, thru lies, bribes, and stonewalling, seems to be acting to prevent the NCAA from finding the truth for the reason of preventing sanctions from being levied, is certainly acting in the absence of honor.  So OK they did not technically, cheat, they technically acted without HONOR!

Hm . . . .  I don't Know, I might rather be known asomeone who cheated once,  than some one who lacks Honor or integtrity.  What do you think?

The Great Equalizer

Since: Mar 26, 2007
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:32 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

He cheated.  Don't cheat & you won't get awards stripped.

Integrity and truthfulness still means something to the people giving these awards & I like that.
Take that award away! 
Liars & sleazy underground money deals to students disgraces this great sport, disgraces the Heisman, and disgraces college football.
I love that they are taking it back.

Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:28 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Unfortunately, you are probably right.  Making bush give it back will not change him anymore than it will change Coach or the AD.  But what it might do, is show those, I guess you'd call them chumps, who had the opportunity to act unethically and chose not too, it might show them that their inaction is appreciated, and that while can't catch every person who chooses to act as a pile of human defecation, we will do our best to see that your honorable choice is given respect.

Now I know I just used many words, that have been redefined in recent years by applying the Golden Rule of the Mafia "Its not Persoanl, its Just Business"; The words like honor, character, integrity have taken a beating in American, and have been replaced or redefined altogether. But, hopefuly these words are making a comeback.

But, if not, we can't let Bush's inability to see the unethical nature of his decision deter us from holding him accountable for his decisions. He will still have those hi-quality women like Kardashian & Paris, & Lohan, but when there all gone and his time has gone, its his reputation he will have to spoend years with. Because those hi-quailty girls will be gone when the fame is gone and he'll be relegated to having relations with girls underage in a New York Tentament.  What success that will be.


The Great Equalizer

Since: Dec 4, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:27 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

He was clearly the best college football player the year he won it. A lot of people would strongly disagree with that statement. Me included

Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:18 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Fine, let OJ keep it. There were bigger injustices in his entire sordid affair than whether he got to keep an overhyped, semi-irrelevant trinket from a writers popularity poll anyway. Although maybe back in '68 the award actually meant something.

Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:18 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

It doesn't matter what value the education is worth. What matters is what were the rules when the conduct was perpetrated.  All these other people who want to raise the Universities Make millions from sports are just people who don't like the rules.  They have no workable solution so they just spew BS.  Their agruments are so weak one of the third graders on that TV show would destroy them in a debate.

These are just people incapable of making a reasoned arument so they make inane ones wrapped up in a rant.  All you University makes millions idiots, here's a question.

When the University through its research discovers some new technique that makes millions, who gets the millions, who worked on the research? Do you think some students had some hand in it?  The monies a university makes is one way they are capapble of paying for many other valuable services that are not of the kind that bring in dollars. For instance, theater, dance, law, business, etc . . .  But we should pay a future millionaire money and then  force everyone else to pay more in tuition, because him or his mother can't wait 2 or 3 years.  And when they are caught - in stead of acting with any amount of honor, they stonewall, lie, bribe so no one can find out what we all know.

As far as I'm concern once USC or Bush began to take such a course, the NCAA should have ordered a temporary order applying the death sentence, which would be later removable once the University of higher education and the athlete cooperated. This would have shortened the process by three years.


The Equalizer

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:11 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

They should strip OJ Simpson of his as well

Since: Mar 20, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:07 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

"How does Bush taking money invalidate his play on the field?"

If USC was buying Bush it stands to reason that his offensive line, quarterback, wideouts and running backs are suspect as well.  If a school is buying players they are using an unfair method of attracting top talent.  That top talent gave Bush the support he needed to have his stellar season. 

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