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Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Posted on: September 7, 2010 10:17 am
Edited on: September 7, 2010 6:14 pm
Posted by Chip Patterson

UPDATE (6:15 ET) - The Heisman Trophy Trust has issued a statement calling the Yahoo! report inaccurate.

UPDATE (3:30 ET) - Heisman spokesman Tim Henning told the LA Times, "The Heisman Trophy Trust has yet to make a decision, and until such time they do we have no further comment."

UPDATE (NOON ET)- ESPN's Chris Fowler just called into SportsCenter to claim that the Yahoo! report "is completely false."  We will continue to update this story as it develops.

athletic director Pat Haden publicly demanded that it be given back, but it is beginning to sound like Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush will have to give back one  of his most valuable pieces of hardware.

Tuesday morning, a Yahoo! report detailed reports from sources that indicate that the Heisman Trophy Trust is expected to strip Bush of college football's most prestigious individual award by the end of September.

Two sources close to the Heisman trust said the body’s investigation is coming to a close, and will ultimately concur with the NCAA's determination that Bush was ineligible during his Heisman-winning season in 2005. Because of that independent conclusion, sources said the trust will relieve Bush of the award and leave the honor for that season vacant.

The sources said Bush met with Heisman representatives last month at the New York law offices of Emmet, Marvin & Martin. The sources would not reveal details of that meeting.

The report continues to detail the investigation process, which was done internally by the Trust and took place over the last three months.  It also reports that Bush was given an opportunity to "impact the decision."

The NCAA has already ordered USC to remove all references to Bush from its sporting venues and promotional materials, as well as erase any statistics from games when he was ineligible.  The school has given back its copy of the award, but Bush has yet to speak up except for a brief apology to the school through Haden.

If the sources are correct, the ruling from the Trust would eliminate any possibility of the award being given to the runner-up, former Texas quarterback Vince Young.  Awarding Young the trophy was a suggestion that was supported by many, particularly Longhorns head coach Mack Brown.

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Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:05 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Wow Great point.

Unfortunately it will go wasted on the koolaid drinkers, and those that think people should not be held accountable for the words, or their actions.


The Equalizer

Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 1:01 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

If we use the incorrent word cheat, then excuse us.  We probably should just use the USC was complicite in Bush's actions, and was an active participant in trying to thwart the NCAA investigation at every turn.  They lied, mis-represented any and all facts that would look porrtly on them.

Oooooh  Waaaiiittt!  Wait a minute, I wonder why they attempting to thwart the NCAA investigation, one that is based upon an honor system????  Wait let me thiiinnkk!!  Its right on the tip of my tongue.. DoN"T tel me!

Oh yeah I know, if usc would have been found complicit in their actions, the NCAA would have levied sanctions against their program, which would have resulted in the lowering of their teams talent pool.  I don't know, but correct me if I wrong, seems like they intended their actions to have a positive affect on their competitive advantage.  What do you think?

Honor is one of those things everyone believes they have, and it is only others who while observing their actions are able to properly judge. USC actions were anything but honorable, but in the day of OSU - U of M, or USC - Notre Dame or whatever, fans have disposed of their honor long ago. It use to be Alls fair in love and War. But, now alls fair in everything as long as "Its Just Business Not Personal.


The Equalizer

Since: Nov 21, 2009
Posted on: September 7, 2010 12:57 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

     I read all the ridiculous comments about how he "won the award on the field." True; however, Reggie Bush was an INELIGIBLE ATHLETE for all the games that he played "on the field" and, because he was ineligible, should not have been on the field. The decision to strip him of the award is the correct decision. I agree that Reggie Bush was spectacular in college, but all his spectacular statistics for his ineligible games no longer exist. We cannot simply let him keep the award because we feel bad for him. Taking steroids makes an athlete a cheater; taking money from boosters makes an athlete a cheater. Neither should receive accolades for what they do on the field. Should someone be allowed to be valedictorian if they plagiarize an essay or cheat on a test. Use your common sense, people.

Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 12:50 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

I am not sure, but is the 68 winner OJ?  First OJ is scum! With that said, OJ committed his alleged crime, 40 years later. His crime had nothing to do with the rules of the NCAA.  He did not violate his amaeur status, he did not vilate the rules of the NCAA. And according to the State of California he was found not guilty.  The process took place, and the result regardless of anyones personal beliefs was that he was found not guilty.

Now, the Heismans Award requires that any recipient must be in compliance with all NCAA regulations. He was not, and not only was he no, he worked as hard as he could to prevent the NCAA from discovering the truth.  I believe the second infraction dams him more than the 1st.  His punishment would have been minor had he & USC worked to defeat the NCAA from completing their investigation.  So while OJ is what OJ is, he is not in violation of an NCAA rule or a Heisman prerequisite.


The Equalizer

Since: Aug 11, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 12:46 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

The universities are to blame too. Just because its a part of college football doesn't make it right.  Look at smaller colleges, you think their student athletes benefit? No way. They have it the hardest out of all of them. But when you go to college you are considered an adult. No one is gonna wake you up for class and make your breakfast. If you miss class you don't go to detention. And as far as a tough backround well then I guess they have to learn the hard way. Once again. Pitty party.

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 12:45 pm
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Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 12:42 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

So in our effort to develop quality young men/women, we should forego any idea of helping them become ethical Americans? Just as they are about to enter adulthood tell them that disposing of your honor is okay, as long as you have a 8 yd per carry average!  Just break the rules as often as you want & as long as you score touchdowns we will reward you.  That kind of thinking is waht is taking the progress of man backwards. it permits those special people to act how they please why the rest of us peasants must conform to the rules.  It is the thinking of people like you that fosters an atmosphere, where corporations feel that they may bribe our politicians, and permits the politicians to escape realatively unscathed for their unethical behavior. 

I suppose its okay for the police to take bribes, beat people, extort civilians, as long as the crime rate is down.  Or I guess a school teacher can set up sexual escapades with her family members with 17 year old kids, as long as, her students are thriving educationally.  I guess as a parent, you would think it was OK if the school coach knew your child was breaking a law or rule, and never told you about it.  I guess if your kid involved in a robbery, off school property you would have a problem with the team suspending him?  Yea we don't care, just get me that touchdown.  What a Neanderthal!

Wow,  up until the beginning of the 21st century - it seemed as though the human race was still progressing, now it seems we are on our way backwards for awhile.  Good Job!

The Equalizer.

Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 12:41 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

You are out of line! the Universities look the other way most of the time, because the players with the talent of Reggie Bush bring millions of Dollars to their schools, students non athletes benifit far more than you think,  New buildings, labs, facilities etc. cheating at any level is not ok but in this case its part of college football, not just at USC. some of these kids come from tough back grounds, and can't resist the temptations.   

Since: Aug 11, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 12:40 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

So if I gave you $1,000 bucks and said your doing a good job keep it up, there is no incentive for you to try a wee bit harder your next time out? Exactly. It affected his play.

Since: Nov 1, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 12:37 pm

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Bush may have taken benefits but what proof do you have that he cheated..... How does taking money affect his ability on the football field.

Saying USC cheated is completely correct but to assume BUSH cheats just because he took money is false.... you can bash him all you want which I do a lot too.... but cheating is enhancing your ability on the field... nothing he did enhanced his skill set.

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