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Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Posted on: September 7, 2010 10:17 am
Edited on: September 7, 2010 6:14 pm
Posted by Chip Patterson

UPDATE (6:15 ET) - The Heisman Trophy Trust has issued a statement calling the Yahoo! report inaccurate.

UPDATE (3:30 ET) - Heisman spokesman Tim Henning told the LA Times, "The Heisman Trophy Trust has yet to make a decision, and until such time they do we have no further comment."

UPDATE (NOON ET)- ESPN's Chris Fowler just called into SportsCenter to claim that the Yahoo! report "is completely false."  We will continue to update this story as it develops.

athletic director Pat Haden publicly demanded that it be given back, but it is beginning to sound like Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush will have to give back one  of his most valuable pieces of hardware.

Tuesday morning, a Yahoo! report detailed reports from sources that indicate that the Heisman Trophy Trust is expected to strip Bush of college football's most prestigious individual award by the end of September.

Two sources close to the Heisman trust said the body’s investigation is coming to a close, and will ultimately concur with the NCAA's determination that Bush was ineligible during his Heisman-winning season in 2005. Because of that independent conclusion, sources said the trust will relieve Bush of the award and leave the honor for that season vacant.

The sources said Bush met with Heisman representatives last month at the New York law offices of Emmet, Marvin & Martin. The sources would not reveal details of that meeting.

The report continues to detail the investigation process, which was done internally by the Trust and took place over the last three months.  It also reports that Bush was given an opportunity to "impact the decision."

The NCAA has already ordered USC to remove all references to Bush from its sporting venues and promotional materials, as well as erase any statistics from games when he was ineligible.  The school has given back its copy of the award, but Bush has yet to speak up except for a brief apology to the school through Haden.

If the sources are correct, the ruling from the Trust would eliminate any possibility of the award being given to the runner-up, former Texas quarterback Vince Young.  Awarding Young the trophy was a suggestion that was supported by many, particularly Longhorns head coach Mack Brown.

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Since: Mar 27, 2009
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:23 am

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

In theory it makes sense but I dont see the point. It's like winning the appeal on a prior guilty sentence...we were all witness to what happened the first time out, have formed an initial opinion and for most of us it wont change regardless to what happens.

Besides, other than backlash from his alma mater, does the trust really think Bush will lose any sleep over the decision? Dont be surprised if he drops the Heisman off weeks before they officially ask for it, flashing his SB ring and other perks from his already fat paycheck on the way out.

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:22 am

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

What about O.J. Cody? O.J. was eleigible the year he won it and his crimes had nothing to do with football and only happened after years of living near the vortex of evil in westwood.

Since: Feb 20, 2007
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:20 am

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

i don't see the point in taking it back.  He didn't use performance enhancing drugs that we know of.  So how did his dealing with an agent effect his work on the field?  How did he cheat? What the NCAA should be able to do is sue these guys for all the scholarship money they took and the schools for whatever bowl money they won during the seasons in question.  Freshman should have to sign some sort behavior / code of conduct agreement with the schools when they agree to go to that school which would allow for future consequences. 

So Reggie gets his trophy taken away.  I'm sure he'll get over it as he works his way through the Kardashian sisters and various super models. 

Since: Oct 4, 2007
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:19 am

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Why should we be surprised?  Fans would like to believe that every Heisman candidate's credentials are validated somewhere in the process.  But of course, if we can't get a birth certificate for the President of the USA why should a Heisman candidate be under any scrutiny? 

This also speaks to the ongoing corruption within the USC program.  Why are they not coming down hard on Pete Carroll and the USC folks?  There is a LOT of blame to go around within the USC program.

Sadly for Vince Young this probably cost him millions of dollars for his salary negotiations, endorsements and more.  This is also a tragedy in the Vince Young (and family, friends and alumni) were denied that awesome experience of having your name announced and getting the accolades you've earned.

This probably also affected the recruiting at both schools - also meaning it rippled out to impact other schools.  I wish someone would pursue the financial harm done by all of this and file lawsuits on the USC program - and maybe the Heisman folks too.

You are right about so many people thinking it is okay to cheat, lie, mislead, etc.  When you have high level politicians, corporate leaders, world leaders and just about every show on TV making it no big deal this is what is going to happen.

This is a huge disappointment for the fans but the biggest harm and greatest damage was done to Vince Young.

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:18 am

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

You're wrong sportsdvl, USC did not cheat, USC was found guilty of lack of institutional control.  USC did not pay Bush to play, nobody payed Bush to play at USC.  Bush got payed to sign with a wannabe agent as soon as he left USC.  Get it straight.

Since: Jul 15, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:17 am

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Who cares? It was 5 years ago. He got paid and people were jealous cause he got more than them so now they punish him. ALL NCAA football players should be paid for the millions of dollars they bring in to the schools. Bush will always be known as the 2005 Heisman winner.

Since: Sep 21, 2009
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:16 am

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

Yep, they were caught. Whereas the good cheaters havent been, yet.

All of the contenders cheat now days. They just dont all get caught.

Since: Sep 7, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:15 am
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Since: Oct 7, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:14 am

Sources: Heisman Trust to strip Bush of trophy

I do not deny that Bush should be stripped, but what about the OJ? What in the HELL is the committee thinking allowing that psychopath felon to keep his? Unless they intend to let them use it to weigh him down in the electric chair after he commits his next double homicide.

Since: Sep 7, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2010 11:12 am
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