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Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

Posted on: September 21, 2010 12:23 pm
Edited on: September 21, 2010 3:19 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

A little over a week ago Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott was quoted as saying that he believed the chances of Colorado leaving the Big 12 to join the Pac-10 as early as next season were "worse than 50-50."   Well, according to one report, it seems that Mr. Scott may not want to go into the bookmaking business anytime soon.

According to Orangebloods.com, the Buffaloes are now expected to be a member of the Pac-10 starting next season.

But it's looking more and more like [the Pac-10] will be a 10-team league in 2011 because Colorado will move on to the Pac-10 after this school year, several sources said.

"There is too much consensus to get Colorado on its way to the Pac-10," an administrator at a Big 12 school told Orangebloods.com. "That's what Colorado and the Pac-10 want. That's what the Big 12 wants."


At issue is the money. Colorado doesn't think it can remain financially viable if it has to pay the one-year notifcation departure fee, which is an 80 percent forfeiture of revenues over a two-year period. But sources said the Big 12 is working on a payment schedule for Colorado to pay those fees over time to the Big 12.


Well of course the Pac-10 wants Colorado to join as soon as possible.  Did you see the 52-7 beatdown Cal put on them?  Everybody wants a piece of that action.

Okay, so maybe the Pac-10 wants them in next year so they can move forward with the division realignments, scheduling, a conference championship game, and their new televison network so they can start raking in the dough.  It makes sense that the Big 12 would prefer Colorado left in 2011 as well, seeing as how Nebraska will be joining the Big Ten next season and they don't want to be caught in 11-team limbo for an entire season.

The Orangebloods article also goes on to say that Texas AD DeLoss Dodds is also holding out hope that Notre Dame would one day bring it's non-football sports programs to the Big 12.  For that, we live Mr. Dodds with this.



Dream until your dreams come true, DeLoss.


Comments

Since: Jan 11, 2007
Posted on: September 23, 2010 4:49 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

I never said it was going to happen, but it isn't completely unreasonable either. Like it or no the athletic department doesn't get to choose what conference they join, that will be left to the board. The same board that already rejected the Big Ten twice now as I understand it. I'm guessing that they still haven't forgot the history that Ohio State, Michigan, and Delany have all seemed to overlook these past few months. If backed in a corner and the Big 12 can offer more money (which I explained in my previous post how they can), be a dominate power again (again I explained how if placed in the north of the conference how that is entirely possible), and allowed to choose a partner to come with them that I wouldn't be surprised to see them join the Big 12 instead. 

As for the idea that a team won't walk away from long standing traditions/rivalries I suggest you read up on recent sports news. Colorado and Nebraska both walked from all of their ties to the Big 12 for more perceived $$$ (Although with the new TV deal that may not be the actual outcome). Regardless, what makes you think that Notre Dame will be any different???




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: September 21, 2010 8:32 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

I wasn't replying to the article, I was replying to the poster above, and the Big East had nothing to do with it.



Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: September 21, 2010 8:24 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

You must not have read the article right. The article says for Notre Dame to bring it's "Non Football" sports to the Big 12, errr New Big 10. They have not been part of the Big East long enough for it to really make a difference.



Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: September 21, 2010 7:39 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

Four words....  Not going to happen.

Notre Dame is a school that cares too much about tradition to just throw away all their long-time rivalries and join the Big 12.

If they ever join a conference for football, it will be the Big Ten.



Since: Jan 11, 2007
Posted on: September 21, 2010 7:26 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

While I don't think Notre Dame will be joining a conference in the near future, I also wouldn't be surprised to see them join the Big 12 instead of the Big 10 for multiple reasons.

1.) Money - The Big 12 will likely be paying its upper echelon schools as much money as the Big 10 does. However, the Big 12 would allow Notre Dame to create its own network and keep the revenue from that much like Texas and Kansas do. Not to mention that Notre Dame joining the Big 12 would bring a ton of money with it, so with the unequal revenue sharing it is not crazy to believe that Notre Dame will not only make more in the Big 12, but will make more than any team in the Big 10 as well.

2.) Power - Undoubtedly Notre Dame will command the same kind of money power that Texas currently does if it joined the Big 12. While it is nice to believe that everyone in the conference feels that moving the Big 12 headquarters to Texas and the unequal revenue sharing is what all the schools wanted; however, the realists know that he who controls the money controls the conference. This is the same reason that Ohio State and Michigan are the two key players in the Big 10. With this said, Notre Dame could become that big power that the North Conference has been lacking for the past decade, thus improving the overall competition and balance between the north and south.

3.) Sticking it to the Big 10 - While many outside of Notre Dame and the Big 10 might have forgotten past misdeeds, Notre Dame certainly has not. The only reason that Notre Dame is not currently in the Big 10 is because the Western Conference, which eventually became the Big 10, rejected their membership application. This forced Notre Dame to go independent and indirectly is the cause for the storied football tradition. While Delany and Swarbrick might be friends, it is the board of trustees that will have final say. My guess is if they have a good enough offer from another conference when forced to join they will stick it to the Big 10 much like the old Western Conference did to them.

4.) They can be a package deal - Essentially the Big 12 can allow Notre Dame to bring with them anyone that they choose. I won't begin to speculate who I think that might or might not be, but it could definitely be more appealing that say Rutgers when the Big 10 makes its next move. While the Big 12 is not viewed as highly as the Big 10 (Thanks to Chicago University's Research Grants), they do have fairly similar entry requirements. The major difference being that they don't have all the membership school restraints, which will only make that pool of possible candidates that Notre Dame wants grow dramatically in the Big 12 favor.

Again I am not saying that this will ever happen, but do not be surprised if one day you hear that the Big 10 has raided the Big East and Notre Dame has joined the Big 12 in response.




Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: September 21, 2010 6:48 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

Hot off the from Dallas!
Under the deal announced this afternoon by the Big 12, the conference will withhold $9.255 million in revenue distribution from Nebraska. The Cornhuskers will receive an additional $500,000 if they play in a BCS game this season -- a distinct possibility.

Added Perlman: "The University of Nebraska believes this is a fair settlement of our disagreement regarding the appropriateness in this instance of imposing any monetary fee on the university for withdrawing from the conference. We continue to value our ongoing relationships with the institutions of the Big 12 and have great respect for their leadership and the leadership of the conference."

The $9.255 million is probably 50% of two years school revenue from the Big 12.



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: September 21, 2010 6:16 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

Yes.  I had to read that 3 or 4 times myself. 



Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: September 21, 2010 5:44 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

The mistake is CBS'.

from Orangbloods:
But it's looking more and more like it will be a 10-team league in 2011 because Colorado will move on to the Pac-10 after this school year, several sources said.



Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: September 21, 2010 5:38 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

Right now it says "But it's looking more and more like [the Pac-10] will be a 10-team league in 2011 because Colorado will move on to the Pac-10 after this school year, several sources said."

Shouldn't that say [the Big-12] if Colorado is going to make that move?



Since: Mar 7, 2007
Posted on: September 21, 2010 3:51 pm
 

Report: Colorado to join Pac-10 in 2011

Just like when I thought they would be leaving.
Exit fee for the leaving the Big 12, 80% of Big 12 revenue from 2008-2009 and 2009-2010.


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