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Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations

Posted on: December 22, 2010 9:20 pm
Edited on: December 23, 2010 11:15 am
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears some new ink could possibly end up costing a few Ohio State players the chance to play in the Sugar Bowl. According to the Columbus Dispatch, the school is now looking into some possible NCAA violations of several Ohio State players who may have received free tattoos in exchange for autographs.
Sources indicate that some sort of discipline is likely to be handed down, but it is unclear when, or to what extent. It is possible that some players may not be available for the Sugar Bowl on Jan. 4, but it's also possible that any discipline could get pushed back to the start of the 2011 regular season.
Athletic director Gene Smith has not returned multiple messages.

It's against NCAA rules for any student-athlete to use their status to receive anything not normally offered to the general public.

Obviously, if any Ohio State players were to be suspended for the Sugar Bowl, depending on who they are, it would have a serious impact on the game. As of now we don't know which players may or may not be involved, but let's say this: I don't think a third string freshman safety is getting free tattoos in exchange for an autograph.

So, while I have no idea who any of the players are, I wouldn't be shocked to find out if some are starters.  And Jim Tressel .  You know the reason Tressel always wears that sweatervest and long sleeves is to hide the hundreds of tattoos on his arms.

UPDATE: Well, it seems we know at least one player who received tattoos: Terrelle Pryor , who announced on his Twitter page tonight, "I paid for my tattoos. Go Bucks."

According to the Cleveland Leader , other players involved reportedly include Dan Herron , DeVier Posey , Travis Howard , Jonathan Newsome , Jordan Hall , Chris Fields and Michael Brewster .
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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 22, 2011 3:25 pm
 

Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations

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Since: Oct 7, 2011
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Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations

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Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: December 23, 2010 4:40 pm
 

Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations

1st of all, all of these violations occurred BEFORE November 2009. The Cam fiasco and AJ Green issues, however even relevant in the slightest, have no real bearing on the issues. AJ Greens issue is the one closest in substance though as they are the same infractions basically. Also ridiculous in the grand scheme of things to say the least.

Next, OSU suspended all of those players for the Sugar Bowl game and the NCAA lifted the suspension. I, as a Buckeye alum and faithful supporter, hope that coach Tressel and AD Gene Smith uphold the suspension of the bowl game. When kids do things wrong at tOSU, they should face the consequences, not skate by because someone can sweep things under the rug. I am appalled at their lack of discipline and responsibility. They did know better and should face the music.

We'll go out and fight against a good Razorback team in the Sugar Bowl with the guys who played by the rules. No exceptions should be made.

The NCAA is a farce. It always has been and will be until its demolished by the universities. Money talks just like in most other avenues in this life. I am hopeful that our administration might be the beacon of hope by doing its job in this case.



Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: December 23, 2010 12:47 pm
 

Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations

The real story here is that if you simply deny, deny, deny you more often than not are not punished.  When you find wrongdoing, admit to wrongdoing, and then punish those involved, the young men learn one thing:  cover your tracks better.

Yeah, ask USC how well that philosophy has worked out for them.

The NCAA needs to hand out penalties equally - five games suspension for selling something that is yours versus no suspension for accepting stolen property and obstructing justice?  It's simply disgusting.

This is true, the NCAA is losing a lot of credibility that they cannot afford to lose in many peoples eyes.



Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: December 23, 2010 12:44 pm
 

Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations

As for the Cam Newton issue, there is one big difference.  Cam's Dad obviously did try to shop his son's services to Mississippi St.  Clearly that deal fell through, so no money changed hands.  There is no clear proof that Cam's Dad tried to shop Cam's services to Auburn, nor is there any proof that any Auburn related money changed hands there either.  Given that any payoff may have been in the form of contributions to Cam's Dad's church, this would be difficult if not impossible to prove.  The only smoke here is that supposedly the church was on the brink of financial collapse, but found a way out of it's financial problems at approximately the same time Cam signed with Auburn.  But all of that is rumor, which may or may not be true. 

This may or may not be true but, even if it is and no money changed hands, that still shouldn't change anything.  If CN allowed his father to influence his decision, then he is guilty, whether he knew about it or not.  In this case, MSU just happened to not pay.  My question is that if they had, and Cam had gone to MSU without knowing the details of his fathers pimping, would the Auburn fans still be saying that Cam is a good kid, that while MSU should be punished, Cam should not be, etc...  IMO, the fact that money may or may not have changed hands is irrelevant.  His father, who was shopping around in his name used his influence to help his son decide where to attend this year.  Guilty.

On the other hand, it appears that OSU players did knowingly trade autographs for tatoos.  This is much easier to prove, as IRS investigation reports on the tatoo parlor are a matter of public record.  So the difference is one case may be easy to prove, while the other may be impossible to prove.

Actually, it appears it is more that they sold (or traded) their merchandise (rings, uniforms, etc...) for services.  As I stated before, this is EXACTLY the same as AJ Green, which is probably why the punishments are so similar.



Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: December 23, 2010 12:17 pm
 

Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations


Ah yes, the Buckeyes aren't in the SEC... so these aren't actual arrests for events such as firing automatic weapons, stealing computers, play for pay, or any of the outrageous events that happen yearly in the SEC.  We're talking about kids who aren't allowed to work breaking NCAA rules looking for some spending money.  They did not break city, state, and federal laws .  Big difference.

How is it this magically happened so quickly?  The Cam Newton investigation took months, and Reggie Bush's took years.  Also, notice tOSU helped the NCAA investigate.  Maybe the rest of college football should talk to Urban and the rest of the wardens... er, coaches ... in the SEC about how to avoid such painful penalties for what appears to be minor infractions compared to those commited by players in the SEC.

Full story from the university is .

Yes, there are infractions.  There should be repercussions.  Yet when we speak about the Heisman Trophy winner being guilty of obstructing justice, cheating, we see that there is less integrity in College football for some groups, but not for all.

The real story here is that if you simply deny, deny, deny you more often than not are not punished.  When you find wrongdoing, admit to wrongdoing, and then punish those involved, the young men learn one thing:  cover your tracks better.  The NCAA needs to hand out penalties equally - five games suspension for selling something that is yours versus no suspension for accepting stolen property and obstructing justice?  It's simply disgusting.




Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: December 23, 2010 12:16 pm
 

BREAKING NEWS

From AP
By on December 23, 2010 at 12:01 PM

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor and four other Buckeyes must sit out the first five games of the 2011 season for accepting improper benefits. All can still play in the Sugar Bowl against Arkansas.


The NCAA suspensions were announced Thursday, shortly before Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith and coach Jim Tressel were to meet with reporters to discuss the university's investigation of players trading autographs for tattoos.


Pryor, running back Daniel Herron, wide receiver DeVier Posey, offensive lineman Mike Adams and defensive end Solomon Thomas also must repay between $1,000 to $2,500 to charity.


No. 6 Ohio State plays Jan. 4 in New Orleans against No. 8 Arkansas.


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Since: Dec 23, 2010
Posted on: December 23, 2010 11:57 am
 

Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations

They do get a free education, but most of these guys could care less about that. Unfortunetly most people who say they get a free education never played college sports and dont realize these players put more work into football for  THE ENTIRE YEAR then probably 90% of workers in America do at thier real job. So much work that they do not have the time/energy to get normal jobs like someone who was on an academic schlorship. Most players come from low income families so they are not getting checks from Mommy and Daddy like most of us did. So you go practice, lift weights, watch films, go to class, go to study groups, all so Ohio State can make millions and millions and millions and you have 5 bucks in your checking account? Something is not right......




Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: December 23, 2010 11:49 am
 

Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations

Cheaters! Where is the outrage?..........Oh wait, Ohio State isn't in the SEC so there isn't a story.


Cut the hater BS, GWAU.  Funny how you say it isn't a story because the SEC is not involved, yet here you are posting on a website message board attached to the story. 

FYI, this isn't about OSU cheating.  This is about OSU players breaking NCAA rules.  I'm sure they will be punished appropriately.



Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: December 23, 2010 11:49 am
 

Ohio State looking into possible NCAA violations

A tattoo?  Were freakin about a dumb ass free tattoo?  For gods sake don't ever try & open a freakin door for any of these kids...

What a fookin joke...



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