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Four GT players will miss bowl for academics

Posted on: December 23, 2010 9:39 pm
Edited on: December 23, 2010 9:45 pm
 
Posted by Chip Patterson

More news of players getting in trouble on Thursday, but this time the players are going to miss the bowl game.  Georgia Tech announced that four players will miss Monday's Advocare Independence Bowl meeting with Air Force because of academic issues.

Senior defensive end Robert Hall and senior linebacker Anthony Barnes have been ruled academically ineligible by NCAA standards, while sophomore wide receiver Stephen Hill and senior safety Mario Edwards are both ineligible for not meeting Georgia Tech's academic requirements.  Edwards and Hill would both likely have started against Air Force.  Georgia Tech relies heavily on their option offense, but Hill did lead the team in receptions.  

Georgia Tech definitely did not need any more players missing, especially coming into the game a little banged up.  Starting quarterback Joshua Nesbitt is attempting to return to play after breaking his right forearm earlier in the season against Virginia Tech.  Sophomore quarterback Tevin Washington has taken over in Nesbitt's place, and the Yellow Jackets will need to get that same kind of help without Hill and Edwards against Air Force.  

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 22, 2011 2:52 pm
 

Four GT players will miss bowl for academics

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Since: Sep 9, 2009
Posted on: December 26, 2010 6:59 pm
 

Four GT players will miss bowl for academics

....yet 5 Ohio State players get suspended for five games in 2011 and they get to play in the Bowl game..hmmmmmmmm...sounds fishy to me. Of course the BCS knows wthout the 5 Ohio State players in the bowl game that would equal lower ratings..wonder how much Ohio St. is paying off the BCS and the NCAA.



Since: Nov 18, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2010 12:11 pm
 

Four GT players will miss bowl for academics

Let's be real clear here...this is not the first time GT players have done this, there were 11 players in 2005 that did this and they were not found out about until the end of the season. You can get off your high horse...GT cheats !!! First, let me respond by saying YOU NEVER ADDRESSED MY POINT : student athletes have the same Right of Privacy of every other student, and other person for that matter.

Secondly, I wanted to say that condemning ALL of the student athletes, and ALL of an entire football program, because ONE GA Tech Admisitrator from the Athletic Association, who didn't understand the NCAA Guidelines (which has happened to TENS of DOZENS of programs), is rather childish. If that were the case, I would point out that there are SEVERAL prominate football "factories" which have had numerous players arrested (public records versus private matters, such as academics or medical issues so this is relevant). Should their criminal activities, which occurred while PLAYING for a UNIVERSITY PROGRAM , condemn that entire program, or all of it's student athletes? I think not.

I would also suggest that you look at GA Tech's rankings versus other Universities and then tell me how "easy" their student athletes have it versus their opponents across the line of scrimmage.

So, in conclusion, let me say that in the past several years, GA Tech has had fewer scholarship players on the field, taking harder core classes, and have been reach Bowls for over a decade (I believe 14 years) in a row. In other words, in spite of every obsticle against them, they are playing competitive football in the Southeast, including against teams in the Southeast Conference (supposedly the cream of the crop), and there's NOTHING anyone can say to detract from their success.



Since: Dec 9, 2006
Posted on: December 26, 2010 9:46 am
 

Four GT players will miss bowl for academics

Let's be real clear here...this is not the first time GT players have done this, there were 11 players in 2005 that did this and they were not found out about until the end of the season. You can get off your high horse...GT cheats!!!



Since: Nov 18, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2010 9:29 am
 

Four GT players will miss bowl for academics

"Lets be clear, many of these athletes are not taking difficult classes the fall semester because of football so .... they screwed up."

While I appreciate the fact you responded civilly to my message, the comment you made, which I included above, indicates you have no idea what GA Tech's academics are like. Unlike the"football factories," there are no "easy" courses at GA Tech; take a look at the course curriculum for yourself. Every student athlete takes classes that every other GA Tech students take for their majors, and there are no "easy" majors at GA Tech.

Now when you couple this with the fact that the NCAA requires these kids to participate in, and pass, a certain number of classroom hours each school term to be able to set foot on the field, but GA Tech has an even HIGHER standard than the NCAA, well, I'd say the bar has been set MUCH higher at GA Tech than most places you're comparing.

Since you raised the issue of Fall Semester, I would also like to add that these kids went into their "Fall Semester" of classes directly after their Summer two-a-days prior to Fall Football, and it took place while they were in season. These kids studied films, practiced, or played games virtually every waking moments outside of classes; how about "normal" students?

No, there are plenty of other kids on scholarship (perhaps academic) at Universities across the country who don't make grades, for whatever reason, and their dirty laundry isn't aired for all the world to read; just because someone is an athlete doesn't give someone the right to discuss personal matters. For example, in the State of Georgia, there's a State Lottery sponsored educational scholarship program called the Hope Scholarship, that is provided to in-State residents so they can attend Universities. I can assure you that there are many of these kids who fail to maintain adequate grades and are not allowed to return to the programs/Universities. Should their names be made public? Obviously not...But wait, they're also receiving public funding to attend college; why would THEY be treated any differently than scholarship athletes?

My point here is that student athletes have the same right to privacy as every other student, or other person for that matter, and in the case of these particular young men, the matter is even more misleading because of their unique status as students (some had already graduated) and the unusual circumstances surrounding the nature of their particular University (GA Tech) because some had actually met NCAA guidelines but not met GA Tech's guidelines and"help" them through the season (or their entire time on campus).



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Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: December 26, 2010 1:34 am
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Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: December 26, 2010 1:18 am
 

Four GT players will miss bowl for academics

Glen, I never read that into the artical.  What i read was kids did not meet a standard set by the school They sit.  it actually tells me that GA Tech is a principled instituion. 

Not sure what your right to privacy is when you receive scholarship money from the NCAA,  maybe they have to say why they are not playing.  honestly anything they say will make the kids look bad but I think you are getting worked up for nothing.  Lets be clear, many of these athletes are not taking difficult classes the fall semester because of football so .... they screwed up.

When the kids do not play what do you think they can say that will not make the kids look bad.  Nothing really . 



Since: Nov 18, 2008
Posted on: December 25, 2010 8:30 pm
 

Two sides to every coin...

Why is it that it is publicly announced they are missing this Bowl Game because of Academic issues rather than non-specific issues?

Frankly speaking, it is no one's business WHY these young men aren't eligible to play Monday night, and even the reason for sitting out the game may be different than any of us think.

As indicated by other posters, kids may have ALREADY graduated from GA Tech (no small accomplishment) and have not been accepted to Graduate school there so they are not taking the minimum number of NCAA classroom hours required to suit up, and other players seem to be meeting the NCAA requirements but NOT the GA Tech Athletic Association's HIGHER standard for IT'S student athletes.

Rather than applauding GA Tech for helping these kids get a QUALITY education and is a QUALITY program, the headline of this article insinuates these kids, specifically, and GA Tech's football program, are inferior.

Finally, I have a problem with making "public" airings of student athletes being declaired academically ineligable from any games. Where's THEIR right to privacy? Why can't there just be a statement that they won't be playing with no reason being given? It shouldn't be explained whether it's an injury, personal problem, or academic; their all PERSONAL in nature, and therefore, should be confidential.

I wish these student athletes the best, and all of the players well on Monday, especially the Jackets!





Since: Nov 5, 2006
Posted on: December 25, 2010 2:52 pm
 

Four GT players will miss bowl for academics

Georgia Tech announced today that four football players, including two who have already earned their undergraduate degrees, will not play in Monday's AdvoCare V100 Independence Bowl because of various academic issues.

Senior defensive end and senior linebacker are ineligible to compete in the game against Air Force under NCAA academic guidelines.





Since: Dec 25, 2010
Posted on: December 25, 2010 12:48 am
 

Four GT players will miss bowl for academics

Actually incorrect, if they had Graduated they would be eligible to play. Bowl games are counted as part of the Season. Graduation doesn't make them ineligible to play, grades do. There is no way these guys received their Diplomas this Semester or they would be playing.


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