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TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Posted on: February 10, 2011 11:27 am
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

TCU put a nice bow on their undefeated season with a victory over Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl, but it seems that one victory over the Badgers is enough for the Horned Frogs for now. Apparently UNLV wants out of its season-opening date with Wisconsin on September 3rd, and an unknown third-party then contacted both Wisconsin and TCU with the prospect of the two schools kicking off 2011 against one another.

It was a matchup that Bret Bielema was all to eager to rekindle.

"I was contacted a week and half after the bowl game about the opportunity to play TCU in our opener," Bielema told The Big 1070 in Madison. "It was something that was going to be broadcast and made a big deal, it took me all of about point five seconds to say yes."

Unfortunately for Bielema and the Badgers, TCU wasn't as excited about the idea. Though not because they feared playing Wisconsin. TCU AD Chris Del Conte confirmed that he was contacted about the rematch as well, but turned it down since there would be only one game and it would be played at Wisconsin.

"We already have Baylor for our opening game," Del Conte said. "A team supposedly Wisconsin played last year doesn't want to go back there. A third party was shopping the game around to other teams. I have no interest in playing a one-[time] game."

Considering that TCU has already had its game against Boise State moved to Boise, I can understand why it wouldn't want to add a trip to Wisconsin to its schedule. Those would be two incredibly tough games to start and finish your season with, and if TCU can't get consideration for a national title when it goes undefeated, it isn't going to a BCS game with two losses either.

Though Del Conte did say that he'd make an exception for Ohio State. Seems he's still a bit sore about E. Gordon Gee's "Little Sisters of the Poor" comment.
Comments

Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 12:00 pm
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Not much should be made about all of VT's bowl games except one being from a BCS conference. The ACC bowl tie ins are such that a team like Clemson can go 6-6 and still lose a bowl game against a team from a BCS conference. Nevermind that the top teams from smaller conferences (CUSA and the Liberty Bowl) are often a better team than the 7th or 8th bowl eligable team from a BCS school.



Since: Oct 9, 2009
Posted on: February 11, 2011 11:55 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

I don't know why you trash the Chik-Fil-A Bowl.  That is easily an upper-level bowl and attendance always rivals that of the BCS Bowls.  And, we played Georgia and Tenn in those two.  I will give you the San Francisco Bowl but I agree that is by far the worst bowl we have played the last 10 years.  However, the issue is whether TCU is an elite program or not.  We disagree, obviously.  I actually like TCU and wish them well but am just saying they had the chance to look good and turned it down.  I think it was clearly a mistake!  It seems you don't.  I do think the arguing in college football is one aspect that makes it great to watch!



Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 11:35 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Calm down, it isn't that big of a deal. You think TCU isn't a national power and I disagree. Fine. The fact is that TCU has been to 12 bowls in 13 years. Is it better to go to a Mobile Alabama bowl (2000), Liberty Bowl (2002), and Fort Worth bowl (2003) than to not play in any bowl at all? National power Alabama was sitting at home for those 3 years (although admittedly 2002 was for NCAA violations). Should they decline those bowl invites because they only want a BCS type bowl on their resume? Every team has those kind of bowls when you take a deeper look. Virginia Tech has been to 7 BCS games out of a weak ACC because ACC is an AQ conference. MWC is not (although some would argue it should be). Congrats to VT. They still played in some Chick-fil-A and San Fransisco bowls.



Since: Oct 9, 2009
Posted on: February 11, 2011 11:26 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Don't bring Virginia Tech's bowl into this conversation or I will surely show you how bad TCU looks!  In the same time period you bring up, Tech has gone to 7 BCS bowls!  And, since the streak started in 1993 have played only one team that wasn't from a BCS conference.  And I'm not even saying Tech is a national power but far more so than TCU!!  Unless you want to go back to the national titles in the 1930s!




Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 11:22 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Since the shake up in 1996, Alabamas last 10 has them playing in the Independence 3 times, Music City twice, Capital One, Cotton, Orange, and 2 BCS bowls. Before that they played in their share of Blockbuster, Gator, Citrus, Outback, Aloha, Liberty, etc. bowls.


Virginia Tech has played in the Insite.com bowl, several Gator bowls, San Fransisco Bowl, a couple of Chick-fil-A Bowls, etc.

Who cares? You take the the best bowl that offers an invite to you. The only difference is that teams like Alabama and Virginia Tech can have a 2, 3, or even 4 loss season and be in a good looking BCS bowl where TCU has to go undefeated.

Also I'm not sure what was wrong with that Poinsietta bowl that featured 2 top 10 teams.



Since: Oct 9, 2009
Posted on: February 11, 2011 11:12 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Let me give you a history lesson...  Mobile Alabama Bowl, GallyFurniture.com Bowl, Poinsetta Bowl, Liberty, Fort Worth, Houston, Texas and finally Fiesta and Rose.  National powers don't play that type of bowl schedule!  And that's just the last 10!



Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 11:00 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

TCU has been at the big boy table for a while. They were in the Southwest conference for a long time up until 1996 and that was a conference with Texas, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Baylor, Texas Tech, and SMU (when they were good). They won 7 outright conference championships trailing only Texas, A&M, and SMU. Since 1996 they changed conferences. Their recent success I have already outlined for you. After leaving the Southwest conference (essentially the old big 12) they have been to 12 bowl games with a 8-4 record in the last 13 seasons starting with a win over USC in the 1998 and culminating with a win over Wisconsin this past January. You people really need a history lesson.



Since: Oct 9, 2009
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:46 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

LSU has no problem with a home and home with TCU, and I would consider LSU more of a powerhouse team than Wiskey. How many national championship trophies does Whiskey have?

Wisc didn't come up with the idea of the one and done!!  They would both make very good money by A THIRD PARTY!!  Wisconsin, in return would have to take a hit by travelling to TCU?  For what?  WHen TCU gets a big boy stadium and takes on all comers, they will become a national power.  That is the only thing holding them back!  And stop bringing up past national championships to argue TCU is a power.. Is Maryland a better program than Virginia Tech becasue the Terps won two national titles in the 50s??





Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:35 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

TCU has more bowl game appearance, bowl game wins, conference championships, national championships, recent success, and just beat Wisconsin head to head. In addition Oklahoma, Virginia, Arkansas, LSU, etc. have no problem scheduling home and home with TCU. The argument that TCU hasn't paid it's dues to earn a home and home with Wisconsin is absurd.



Since: Dec 6, 2010
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:29 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

"For those of you who insist TCU isn't a national power let me refresh your memory.

2005 TCU was ranked 9th to finish the year, Wisconsin was ranked 15th
2006 TCU was ranked 21st to finish the year, Wisconsin was ranked 7th
2007 TCU and Wisconsin were unranked to finish the year.
2008 TCU was ranked 7th to finish the year, Wisconsin was unranked.
2009 TCU was ranked 6th to finish the year, Wisconsin was ranked 16th
2010 TCU was ranked 2nd to finish the year, Wisconsin was ranked 7th.

So in the last 6 years, TCU was ranked in 5 times at the end of the year, and 4 times in the top 10. Wisconsin was ranked 4 times and twice in the top 10. This has nothing to do with the national championships or conference championships that TCU has won because those outnumber Wisconsin as well. I am not looking that far into the past, but to say that TCU isn't a national power ignores a tradition of winning that few other teams can match."

Ok, they beat up on weak competition.  Put them in the Big Ten and they will not even be ranked and the TCU era will come to an end.  TCU is a great team, but not a "National Power"!  USC, Oregon, Alabama, and other TRUE national power teams would bring them to the wood shed any day of the week!  TCU should have stepped up to the challenge...Baylor sucks anyway but I know the first game is always against a weaker opponent to knock off the rust and get each unit firing on all cylinders. 



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