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TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Posted on: February 10, 2011 11:27 am
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

TCU put a nice bow on their undefeated season with a victory over Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl, but it seems that one victory over the Badgers is enough for the Horned Frogs for now. Apparently UNLV wants out of its season-opening date with Wisconsin on September 3rd, and an unknown third-party then contacted both Wisconsin and TCU with the prospect of the two schools kicking off 2011 against one another.

It was a matchup that Bret Bielema was all to eager to rekindle.

"I was contacted a week and half after the bowl game about the opportunity to play TCU in our opener," Bielema told The Big 1070 in Madison. "It was something that was going to be broadcast and made a big deal, it took me all of about point five seconds to say yes."

Unfortunately for Bielema and the Badgers, TCU wasn't as excited about the idea. Though not because they feared playing Wisconsin. TCU AD Chris Del Conte confirmed that he was contacted about the rematch as well, but turned it down since there would be only one game and it would be played at Wisconsin.

"We already have Baylor for our opening game," Del Conte said. "A team supposedly Wisconsin played last year doesn't want to go back there. A third party was shopping the game around to other teams. I have no interest in playing a one-[time] game."

Considering that TCU has already had its game against Boise State moved to Boise, I can understand why it wouldn't want to add a trip to Wisconsin to its schedule. Those would be two incredibly tough games to start and finish your season with, and if TCU can't get consideration for a national title when it goes undefeated, it isn't going to a BCS game with two losses either.

Though Del Conte did say that he'd make an exception for Ohio State. Seems he's still a bit sore about E. Gordon Gee's "Little Sisters of the Poor" comment.
Comments

Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:23 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Oklahoma and Arkansas have scheduled home and home games with TCU for upcoming years. Why can't Wisconsin do the same and do it the right way? It's not that TCU is afraid to play Wisconsin, it is that the scheduling of the game wasn't done the right way.



Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:17 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

For those of you who insist TCU isn't a national power let me refresh your memory.

2005 TCU was ranked 9th to finish the year, Wisconsin was ranked 15th
2006 TCU was ranked 21st to finish the year, Wisconsin was ranked 7th
2007 TCU and Wisconsin were unranked to finish the year.
2008 TCU was ranked 7th to finish the year, Wisconsin was unranked.
2009 TCU was ranked 6th to finish the year, Wisconsin was ranked 16th
2010 TCU was ranked 2nd to finish the year, Wisconsin was ranked 7th.

So in the last 6 years, TCU was ranked in 5 times at the end of the year, and 4 times in the top 10. Wisconsin was ranked 4 times and twice in the top 10. This has nothing to do with the national championships or conference championships that TCU has won because those outnumber Wisconsin as well. I am not looking that far into the past, but to say that TCU isn't a national power ignores a tradition of winning that few other teams can match.



Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:06 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

LSU has no problem with a home and home with TCU, and I would consider LSU more of a powerhouse team than Wiskey. How many national championship trophies does Whiskey have?



Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:04 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Being ranked 2nd and playing in 2 straight BCS bowl games while losing only 3 games over the course of 3 seasons would tend to point to being a national power. They don't have to earn respect at this point. They are ranked #2 in the polls. They aren't going to fall off the map unless teams start to beat them. They are playing in an good MWC that arguably ranks ahead of the Big East and ACC at this point and then they are moving to the Big East where they will have the opportunity to essentially run the conference and it makes it that much easier for them to get to BCS bowl games. Unless you are an SEC what bigger goal can there be than to make it to a BCS bowl game?



Since: Oct 9, 2009
Posted on: February 11, 2011 10:00 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Yeah but there is no guarantee TCU gets in over a one or even two loss SEC, Big 12, etc team.  What if OSU has one loss and it is to Wisconsin?  TCU would have major pull over OSU if they beat Wisconsin.  Not playing Wisconsin hurts.  And to think Baylor will be as good as last year seems out there to me.  THe Big 12 wasn't its normal self last year and I would expect Baylor to be a 4-5 loss team, easily.



Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 9:55 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

TCU is still NOT in an AQ Conference.  Even when they do go to one in 2012, it will be the Big East, aka the Big "Least".  TCU has had a nice run recently, but is still small potatoes to the powerhouses in the legitimate AQ Conferences.  The article says TCCU is not going to a BCS game with two losses.  The factis that until they play a representative schedule, they should not be considered for a BCS Bowl with one loss this season.  When they get to the Big East, they can go to BCS Bowls by winning the Conference Championship.  TCU is NOT a major player in College Football on a yearly basis.  They have a small stadium.  They are not worth a home and home against the peenial powerhouses.  If they want to schedule home and home series against the real good teams, they had better be prepared to move their home game to Jerryworld, much like Syracuse had to move their home game against USC to East Rutherford. 

AS far as schools like USC and Texas are concerned, they had down years, but they still make schools in non-AQ conferences like TCU look like a penny waiting for change.  When the number of bolw games that TCU has appeared in comes close to the number of bowl games for those two schools, then their fans can talk.  Until then, TCU and its fans should enjoy the view from the First Class portion of the plane, because they are headed back to the Economy section this season.



Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 9:53 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Irregardless of weather or not TCU replaces Baylor with Wisconsin, the only way TCU gets in the NCG is if they go undefeated and less than 2 teams from the Big10/Pac10/ACC/SEC/PAC10 go undefeated (they could still get in over a Big East team IMO). They are ranked so high at this point that if they go undefeated I can't see any circumstances that would have a team that is not undefeated getting into the game ahead of them. They will be playing two Big 12 teams and the CUSA runner up including MWC games against Boise St., Air Force, and SDSU teams that will presumably at worst be decent to good teams. If they are still undefeated they will play a title game against a Utah/Nevada/Boise or somebody like that. They are going to be all right.



Since: Oct 9, 2009
Posted on: February 11, 2011 9:49 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

NEWSFLASH, TCU is not a national power!  If they were, how come they play in such a tiny stadium with marginal support in a state where football is god?  The reason they aren't is because of conference, which means???  That's right, strength of schedule.  Play a top 10 team at their house and things change.  How has TCU earned anything over Wisonsin?  And why is Wisonsin the chump?  They lost to a good team last year but are willing to play a no-win game versus TCU.  If they win, there will be the "you beat them at home" yet if they lose it's an 0-1 start that could ruin the season.  Look, I like TCU and thought they were doing things the correct way to earn respect but this just looks bad.  Like I said, it's perception and the voters will be split just like we are.  That is not a good thing for a team trying to earn respect.



Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: February 11, 2011 9:14 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

Whiskey looks like chumps. If they are so desparate to fill a slot that UNLV backed out of, and desperate to get a quick rematch to a team that beat them in a BCS game last year, then play at a neutral site or go to TCU. TCU has earned the right to a fair scheduling scenario of a neutral site or home and home. TCU has agreements with teams like Virginia, Baylor, LSU, etc. for those type of scheduling scenarios. Baylor is a rivalry game and a short commute for TCU fans. Wisconsin just wants the TCU matchup to save face. And to those of you who think TCU doesn't schedule well enough to get in the NCG, they were ranked 3rd last year and that was only because teams from power conferences went undefeated. I got news for you, if TCU plays Wisconsin, goes undefeated, and a couple Big 10/SEC/Big 12/Pac 10 teams also go undefeated TCU will be on the outside looking in again. It is the nature of the BCS. There is no sense playing a tough road game the first game of the season when no other national power does.



Since: Oct 9, 2009
Posted on: February 11, 2011 7:31 am
 

TCU doesn't want a Wisconsin rematch

VikesWin, I agree this is a money issue but not because TCU would hurt.  If you read the story, it says that an outside source approached the teams.  AN outside source is most likely a network that would benefit as well.  TCU would be paid and paid a lot for a one game scenario.  For those that think TCU doesn't gain, do you really believe not playing Wisconsin to open the year is better for your national title hopes??  Oh and stop telling Wisconsin to call you, you had the option as the small school to advance your status and now look like chumps.  Whether you or I agree with that statement, that is the perception!


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