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Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Posted on: March 31, 2011 1:12 pm
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Oregon State president Ed Ray is in something of a unique position when it comes to the Jim Tressel brouhaha at Ohio State. As a former vice president and provost in Columbus, Ray was one of the Buckeye officials who hired Tressel away from Youngstown State and knows Tressel personally. But as the current president of the NCAA's Executive Committee (the committee which oversees changes to NCAA's byzantine rulebook and bylaws), he's also heavily invested in seeing the NCAA's standards and rules upheld.

So it carries more than the usual weight when Ray opens both barrels on Tressel in an interview today with the Oregonian:
"I just thought the world of him ... " Ray said. "I would assume he's certainly been a very positive influence on many of the players that he had. But this whole episode to me is beyond the pale. It's totally unacceptable ..."

The NCAA has not yet ruled on Tressel's transgression, and Ray emphasized that he was speaking for himself only. But on how NCAA enforcement officials might view Tressel's case, Ray said, "If I were in their position, I'd be a hanging judge."

He continued: "I think there are lines you don't cross in your own life.... I'm not a big mercy guy. I'm not a big understander of extenuating circumstances. We all sort of engage in thinking about situational ethics. But I'm kinda old-school. And I think you're either ethical or you're not ethical."
As Ray himself points out, his opinion is not necessarily an opinion shared by the NCAA colleagues who will ultimately decide Tressel's punishment fate. And Ray's personal disappointment with a man he clearly respected a great deal is also likely coloring his remarks.

With that said, Ray also remains representative of the type of academically-focused officials who populate the NCAA and will be on the committee reviewing the Tressel case. If his response to Tressel's transgressions are even remotely similar to those shared across the NCAA, that five-game suspension could be the tip of the proverbial iceberg.


Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: April 1, 2011 2:06 am

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

I commend you. Most fans, and by most I would say 99.9%, would take the coaches side on this. especially one with the success Tressel has. It is still amazing to me he is still employed now. The bow tie wearing president of OSU appears affraid to do anything out this. I understand that the players are suspended for 3 games, and the ol' Sweater Vest 5 games, but can someone explain to me how the school is not on probation? And I don't mean the little, "1 year, keep your nose clean and this will all be forgotten" type probation. I am talking about the 1994 University of Washington 2 year Bowl ban and 1 year TV ban type probation. Oh wait, they don't do those anymore. the NCAA and PAc 10 realized how much money they lost not having a team on TV for a year, that is why U of Washington was the last team to get the dreaded TV ban. Could you imagine how pissed Michigan would be if the Ohio State vs. Michigan game could not be televised because the coach (at some point former if this happened) lied to the NCAA. Heck, Reggie Bush's parents got $250,000 and USC got a slap on the wrist wit ha little 1 year bowl ban and the loss of some scholarships, but every game will be on TV.

NCAA, the only way you will deter teams, errr, schools of higher learning, from cheating is take money away in the form of Television revenues. Then you will get their attention.

Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: April 1, 2011 1:53 am

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

the whole thing about college athletics and the NCAA "finding" violations seem to be based on another school turning you in.  the inforcement staff of the NCAA is too small to police everything so they just act when someone complains.  the other SEC schools knew how talented newton was and knew AU was going to be a huge winner with him so they turned AU in.  You can probably get any school in the coutry if you point the finger at them and get the NCAA on them.  AU is not the only offender niether is OSU, the whole system is messed up and has been for a long time.  The only thing to do is pay the players and let them pay whatever they want!  No school has all the money, at least the SEC and OSU will be on a level playing field with all the other schools.

Since: Nov 12, 2010
Posted on: April 1, 2011 1:38 am

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

I guess you are the person who hands out the penalties for the NCAA?  You and millions of others who seem to be able to read the future. Everyone wants the worse for Buckeye nation but let’s see what happens. They are circling the wagons in Columbus and have major pull in what happens regarding everything at the college level. The Vest and the Buckeyes have been very lucrative for the NCAA and will continue to. Just might be enough to get the old Vest of the hook. We are behind you 100% JT. Hang in there and keep pulling in the recruiting class year in year out.

Since: Feb 27, 2008
Posted on: April 1, 2011 1:33 am

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Austen are you kidding me?  Does FRANCE ring a bell?  I guess storming the beaches of Normandy doesn't count as bailing out a country.  Derp. 

Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: April 1, 2011 1:18 am

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

For Kozlovred, it clearly states in the article that this guy works on the NCAA bylaws commitee, so it matters.  Beyond the off-topic stuff, which is a bit weirder than normal on this thread, whoever said Ohio State can't have a story break every week makes a good point...but it really depends on what Tressel's boss is willing to do about it, and unfortunately, he seems to be siding a little too much with Tress.  I hate to listen to the pro-SEC media, and I dread to think what our program will be like w/o ol' Sweater Vest, but c'mon, this is getting a little bit ridiculous!  Lies, on top of lies, on top of lies, on top of lies...without end?!?  What kind of man is coaching our football team? Really.

Since: Oct 15, 2008
Posted on: March 31, 2011 11:54 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Slive, the SEC Commish. suspended Pearl for 8 SEC games, not the NCAA.  Hamilton, the wormy Tennessee AD, had Pearl's back until he got the word about NCAA penalties with Pearl and NCAA penalties without Pearl.  When he saw the difference, Pearl was canned.  You may not like it, but Tressel is toast, hombre.

Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: March 31, 2011 11:50 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Meanwhile, in other stories on the Tressel Sports Network (formerly CBS)...

Since: Mar 18, 2011
Posted on: March 31, 2011 11:38 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'




Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: March 31, 2011 11:32 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

tressel is pure trash. i'll never look at a sweater vest the same way again.

Since: Feb 24, 2007
Posted on: March 31, 2011 11:22 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

@ PSU_Lions_84   "conveniently forgetting that those empires were largely achieved by slave labor, exploitation of other lands' peoples and resources, and cutthroat competion amongst themselves.

Sorry to go off-topic, guys, but I am sick of people who think European countries are so superior to the US, when we keep bailing their butts out."

Dude, this actually sounds exactly like America.   Please name a European country you have "bailed out"  (Afghanistan '80s, Libya 90s) dont count, they arent European (although those turned out pretty well).

as for the topic at hand.  Said from the get go 1 year suspension & Salary donated to charity fits the crime.  the more that comes out, the more I think they have to fire him.  This isnt going away and the University can't have a new story breaking every week

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