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Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Posted on: March 31, 2011 1:12 pm
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Oregon State president Ed Ray is in something of a unique position when it comes to the Jim Tressel brouhaha at Ohio State. As a former vice president and provost in Columbus, Ray was one of the Buckeye officials who hired Tressel away from Youngstown State and knows Tressel personally. But as the current president of the NCAA's Executive Committee (the committee which oversees changes to NCAA's byzantine rulebook and bylaws), he's also heavily invested in seeing the NCAA's standards and rules upheld.

So it carries more than the usual weight when Ray opens both barrels on Tressel in an interview today with the Oregonian:
"I just thought the world of him ... " Ray said. "I would assume he's certainly been a very positive influence on many of the players that he had. But this whole episode to me is beyond the pale. It's totally unacceptable ..."

The NCAA has not yet ruled on Tressel's transgression, and Ray emphasized that he was speaking for himself only. But on how NCAA enforcement officials might view Tressel's case, Ray said, "If I were in their position, I'd be a hanging judge."

He continued: "I think there are lines you don't cross in your own life.... I'm not a big mercy guy. I'm not a big understander of extenuating circumstances. We all sort of engage in thinking about situational ethics. But I'm kinda old-school. And I think you're either ethical or you're not ethical."
As Ray himself points out, his opinion is not necessarily an opinion shared by the NCAA colleagues who will ultimately decide Tressel's punishment fate. And Ray's personal disappointment with a man he clearly respected a great deal is also likely coloring his remarks.

With that said, Ray also remains representative of the type of academically-focused officials who populate the NCAA and will be on the committee reviewing the Tressel case. If his response to Tressel's transgressions are even remotely similar to those shared across the NCAA, that five-game suspension could be the tip of the proverbial iceberg.


Since: May 11, 2008
Posted on: March 31, 2011 11:19 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Jack H
You sound like you are mad at tOSU for the NCAA ruling that the players could play. Also the NCAA didn't fire Kelvin Sampson or Bruce Pearl their respective university did. I am sure tOSU could have cared less about tv ratings during this time frame! Come on dude!!! And as far as the $ goes it was already there when the Sugar Bowl picke tOSU to play in it, they could have thrown out Pee Wee Herman and still collected $ just for being in the bowl game. If anything the Sugar Bowl should have kicked tOSU out of the game and chose another team to play in it. That didn't happen. And just so you know it was more than just a QB that was ruled eligable to play.

Since: Apr 29, 2008
Posted on: March 31, 2011 11:16 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

While I certainly think Tressel should be fired I doubt that demanding the President Oregon State take a stand by firing someone that doesn't work for him is going to get you very far. The continued employment issues rests squarely on the shoulders of Ohio State's president who earlier made a joke hoping that the football coach would not suspend him. I doubt Tressel is very worried right now regarding his university's position on his job.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 10:56 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

So, take a stand: fire the jerk.

Since: Oct 14, 2010
Posted on: March 31, 2011 10:45 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

President Ray, meet President Gee.  He is afraid a football coach, yes, you heard me, a football coach will fire him.  Could you loan Prez Gee your pair?

Since: Dec 4, 2007
Posted on: March 31, 2011 10:33 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

For all who keep using Bruce Pearl as an example, didnt the NCAA suspend him for about half a season? They didnt fire him. Tenneesee did.   Right after laying an egg in the Tournament. Willing to bet if he had made a decent run he would have stayed. And if Tress gets a 5 game suspension, thats pretty close to half a season, like Pearl. Seems lik a similar punishmnt, but everyone keeps saying  the NCAA should "do hijm like they did Coach Peral". Seems like they are if he gets about half a season suspension.

Dont forget he already has tp pay a quartrpf a million dollars in penaltys too! That aint chump change.

Since: Feb 27, 2008
Posted on: March 31, 2011 10:11 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

@PSU_Lions, I don't think he meant to sound elitist.  He was just saying that they don't get a lot of details about the case?  Maybe I just completely misread that.  You sound quick to assume that he is your average snobby, smelly, wussy frenchmen - and that's a bit unfair.  Also, America has used slave labor and land that wasn't technically ours as well.  America used slavery and supported manifest destiny for a shorter amount of time than European countries did, however.  Point being:  America is the best, but not perfect.  We may, in fact, only be the best because everyone else sucks so much. 

Let them get back to "football", where apparently the goal of the game is to fake as many injuries as possible, wear frilly clothes, and "accidentally" fall directly on top of other sweaty men wearing short shorts.

Since: Nov 30, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 10:07 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Agree.  The NCAA has to lower the boom on Ohio State.  Tressel has made a mockery of the rules by hiding/lying/cheating in order to ensure a big cash gain this past year to Ohio State in the regular season and in the Sugar Bowl.  The players should be ruled ineligible for next year, (should have been for this past year), and Tressel should be suspended for the year as well. 

The NCAA can't pick and choose:  They force Tennessee to fire Pearl, they rule Dez Bryant ineligible for the season, etc., but allow Ohio State players to play in a bowl game in the year they had known rules violations, and their head coach is also allowed to participate.  If the NCAA doesn't act harshly at Ohio State, Tressel and the players involved, then every university in the country should feel compelled it's open season to cheat and lie rampantly -- all in the interest of winning games and making money -- because that will be the message the NCAA is sending.  We'll soon see if the NCAA will continue its history of hypocrisy, or if they have any interest in upholding ethics that they have established.  The Ohio State University, specifically Gee and Smith, have shown that they sure don't care about it.  It's all about the money.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 9:51 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

All of these programs are breaking the rules in some fashion.  I don't really care at this point and am really annoyed by the NCAA more than anything. 

Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 9:35 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale''re kidding right ? The " facts " appear, even to a blind monkey, to be there for everyone to see. Bet you think Pearl, Kiffin, Calapari et al go bowling with Tressell, and their score is always 300. I wonder what Jim was apologizing for.

Since: May 1, 2010
Posted on: March 31, 2011 9:23 pm

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

The NCAA will do nothing until after the draft. They may even wait until it's almost too late for the players to go to another school. Bottom line, as usual, it's all about the $$$$$$$$$. Remember, the NCAA only has 44 investigators. They don't evrn look at a program unless someone "rats"them out. Follow the money around almost every major college program and you'll find something. 

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