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Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Posted on: March 31, 2011 1:12 pm
 
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Oregon State president Ed Ray is in something of a unique position when it comes to the Jim Tressel brouhaha at Ohio State. As a former vice president and provost in Columbus, Ray was one of the Buckeye officials who hired Tressel away from Youngstown State and knows Tressel personally. But as the current president of the NCAA's Executive Committee (the committee which oversees changes to NCAA's byzantine rulebook and bylaws), he's also heavily invested in seeing the NCAA's standards and rules upheld.

So it carries more than the usual weight when Ray opens both barrels on Tressel in an interview today with the Oregonian:
"I just thought the world of him ... " Ray said. "I would assume he's certainly been a very positive influence on many of the players that he had. But this whole episode to me is beyond the pale. It's totally unacceptable ..."

The NCAA has not yet ruled on Tressel's transgression, and Ray emphasized that he was speaking for himself only. But on how NCAA enforcement officials might view Tressel's case, Ray said, "If I were in their position, I'd be a hanging judge."

He continued: "I think there are lines you don't cross in your own life.... I'm not a big mercy guy. I'm not a big understander of extenuating circumstances. We all sort of engage in thinking about situational ethics. But I'm kinda old-school. And I think you're either ethical or you're not ethical."
As Ray himself points out, his opinion is not necessarily an opinion shared by the NCAA colleagues who will ultimately decide Tressel's punishment fate. And Ray's personal disappointment with a man he clearly respected a great deal is also likely coloring his remarks.

With that said, Ray also remains representative of the type of academically-focused officials who populate the NCAA and will be on the committee reviewing the Tressel case. If his response to Tressel's transgressions are even remotely similar to those shared across the NCAA, that five-game suspension could be the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

Comments

Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: March 31, 2011 5:08 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

My crystal ball says: 
1.  Two years of probation, covering the 2011-2012 seasons.2.  Loss of up to five scholarships.3.  Forfieture of all the 2010 wins.4.  $500,000 fine for Tressel.5.  A 2011 postseason ban.



Are you sure you're a Buckeye fan? Tongue out   At least you're not one of the Homers who think a 5 game suspension would be enough.



Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 5:03 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

So, in your opinion, it's ok to break the law a little even when you have been the face of integrity for your institution.  Where would you draw the line then?  10k? 50k?  Unethical is unethical no matter how you cut it.




Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: March 31, 2011 4:59 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Sorry bigbuckeye, but Tressel is not protected by any sort of attorney-client privilege because the guy was not Tressel's attorney, and the attorney-client works to where the attorney cannot say anything about what the client told him, not the other way around.  The only way Tressel could claim this would be if Tressel were this guy's lawyer. 



Since: Mar 31, 2011
Posted on: March 31, 2011 4:58 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

"IMO, Tressel is protected by the attorney/client privilege since the email came from an attorney.  All converstations are private.  If anything, he violated that by sending it to Pryor's mentor"
The attorney/client privilege means that investigators can't require your own attorney to testify against you.  It has absolutely nothing to do with Tressel lying to the rest of the world.



Since: Mar 30, 2011
Posted on: March 31, 2011 4:48 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

This is beyond rediculous.  This is based in about $4K spread across five players who tried to find a loophole to put some money in their pockets.  If it were a hummer or a house like you know who USC, all of this banter is justified.

IMO, Tressel is protected by the attorney/client privilege since the email came from an attorney.  All converstations are private.  If anything, he violated that by sending it to Pryor's mentor.

Too many OSU haters on this planet.



Since: Apr 22, 2009
Posted on: March 31, 2011 4:46 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

For ALL viewers, READ STRT716, best article on the Ohio State matter. So the NCAA is already going to hang Coach Tressel, say the CURRENT President of NCAA's EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.  DUMP GEE!



Since: Mar 23, 2010
Posted on: March 31, 2011 4:35 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Ed Ray = Pot calling Kettle black
Better nail up that closet full skeletons Ed, you just pissed off the people who know all about you.



Since: Mar 6, 2007
Posted on: March 31, 2011 4:32 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

IS a Buckeye fan saying that a football coach is bigger then a University?  OR should I say a University President saying a football coach is above him?  No wonder OSU cheats all the time and is full of retards that are full of prison tattoos! 



Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 4:16 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

...What do you think of strt716's "Dear Buckeyes" post?



Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 4:12 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

LOL!!!!!  Thanx man!!! BALL ANALOGIES RULE!!!!!


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