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Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Posted on: March 31, 2011 1:12 pm
 
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Oregon State president Ed Ray is in something of a unique position when it comes to the Jim Tressel brouhaha at Ohio State. As a former vice president and provost in Columbus, Ray was one of the Buckeye officials who hired Tressel away from Youngstown State and knows Tressel personally. But as the current president of the NCAA's Executive Committee (the committee which oversees changes to NCAA's byzantine rulebook and bylaws), he's also heavily invested in seeing the NCAA's standards and rules upheld.

So it carries more than the usual weight when Ray opens both barrels on Tressel in an interview today with the Oregonian:
"I just thought the world of him ... " Ray said. "I would assume he's certainly been a very positive influence on many of the players that he had. But this whole episode to me is beyond the pale. It's totally unacceptable ..."

The NCAA has not yet ruled on Tressel's transgression, and Ray emphasized that he was speaking for himself only. But on how NCAA enforcement officials might view Tressel's case, Ray said, "If I were in their position, I'd be a hanging judge."

He continued: "I think there are lines you don't cross in your own life.... I'm not a big mercy guy. I'm not a big understander of extenuating circumstances. We all sort of engage in thinking about situational ethics. But I'm kinda old-school. And I think you're either ethical or you're not ethical."
As Ray himself points out, his opinion is not necessarily an opinion shared by the NCAA colleagues who will ultimately decide Tressel's punishment fate. And Ray's personal disappointment with a man he clearly respected a great deal is also likely coloring his remarks.

With that said, Ray also remains representative of the type of academically-focused officials who populate the NCAA and will be on the committee reviewing the Tressel case. If his response to Tressel's transgressions are even remotely similar to those shared across the NCAA, that five-game suspension could be the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

Comments

Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: March 31, 2011 3:28 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Its amazing to read all of the Ohio State "fans" still rallying behind this guy.  He flat out lied to the team, to the school, to the NCAA, to everyone and the Ohio State people still can't see this as being a bad thing.  If he has won a couple national championships, I guess I could understand the blind lemming loyalty, but he hasn't. 

I hope they suspend him for at least a year. I have no hatred toward Ohio State, but if the NCAA wants to save any face at all, they need to drop the hammer hard on Tressell.  If not, then just stop enforcing the rules and let the anarchy reign without the BS pretense of rules.




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 3:24 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

You are absolutely right, DTCHI, the NCAA is a joke. I find it whimsical that Ed Ray would speak out so strongly against institutional corruption when he is a key member of the most corrupt entity of them all, the NCAA. I personally am disappointed that Tressel has proven to be a liar, because I am one of those fools who likes to believe there are people that value doing right over money and success. However, Ed Ray needs to clean his own house before telling the world just how disappointed he is in Jim. For the record, I am not one of the obnoxious, oblivious Buckeye fans that tend to litter this board.



Since: Nov 29, 2010
Posted on: March 31, 2011 3:21 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Im quite sure (sweatervest) knew what he was doing the ethical stuff doesnt apply. Im sure there was alot of planning and thought in these matters so he only did it for the same reason alot of people do things wrong. HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO GET AWAY WITH IT!!!!!!!!!   NOT!!!!!!!!!!



Since: Jul 27, 2010
Posted on: March 31, 2011 3:17 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Im in the same boat with this guy. I hate that people feel they can make exceptions for morality or ethics simply becasue they are in a tough situation. Either you do the right thing or you dont. There are an extremely small amount of situations where morals get skewed and its understandable, none of them are included in sports. If you are put in a hard situation and you do the wrong thing, you can't blame the situation, the people around you, or clouded judgement. You made the decision, you pay the price. Not to say that people don't make mistakes, we all do, but even if it is an honest mistake, you need to be held accountable.



Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 3:13 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Dez Bryant went to dinner with Deion Sanders, so that could of been seen as accepting gifts. Tressel failing to report those emails to the NCAA is comparing apple an oranges. Now if you had said the Buckeye 5 need to been suspended for a year, that would hold more water than saying Tressel should be.
So what your saying is that a leader, someone that is suppose to set the example, say the head football coach - that this person should be held to a higher standard than that of the young, dumb college athlete?  I think you're right....  the head coach should be held to a higher standard - he should be suspended for 2 seasons!!!

CWergs



Since: Jan 27, 2008
Posted on: March 31, 2011 2:54 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

"And I think you're either ethical or you're not ethical"

I'm assuming Ed Ray must be Jesus Christ with a statement like that.  I'm sure he's never done anything that he later regretted.  What a moronic, pompous statement.

You cant be this dense.  Go look up the word "ethical" it doesnt mean always being right or never regretting something.  Example: I regret replying to your dopey post but that doesnt mean i'm unethical.



Since: Apr 22, 2008
Posted on: March 31, 2011 2:52 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

i love how this is going. All the OSU fans that bashed Michigan when Rich Rod was caught asking kids to practice a little more.
BHAHAHAHAAAHAAHAA Everyone knew tressel would get caught at something.
The NCAA is such a joke. You can take any program in the country and find something wrong.
The rule they all have to live by is this: When you know of wrong doing just admit to it and take your lumps.
Don't ignore it and then when you are caught pretend a five game ban is going to be enough.



Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 2:52 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Coiler18, the column was clearly a bit over your head, so I'll attempt to break it down for you. Ray is not advocating of position of "he who is without sin", or ethics in the context of sin. There's no reason to invoke the name of the Diety here. This isn't about religion. Ray is only speaking within the context of the position of NCAA Head Coach. A coach can cheat on his wife, steal from his neighbor, cheat on his taxes, and still be extremely ethical with respect to his adherence to NCAA Rules. Ray is ONLY speaking in the context of Tressel's adherence to NCAA Rules, not on his standing in the eyes of the alimighty and ever living God. And Ray is correct. When it comes to NCAA Rules, you ARE either ethical or you ARE NOT. There is no middle ground, no almost pregnant. You either are are are not. Once a coach knowingly breaks the rules and/or conceals know violations from his superiors and/or employer, he IS NOT ethical anymore, and can NEVER be considered ethical again. Dumbing down further, I'll paint you a visual image. In our lifetime we are given a bag of balls to juggle. Some balls are like rubber, and if you drop them they bounce back (i.e. a career or job ball). Some balls are like precious crystal, and if bobbled and dropped, they shatter into a million pieces and can NEVER be reparied to their original status. The character and reputation balls are crystal. They cannot be restred once broken, no matter how long you live. You drop them, they're gone forever. Such is the case with Tressel. He is tarnished forever. He may coach twenty more years and win ten national titles, but he will never be looked upon the same. His character and reputation have been compromised. He will continue through life, and may have much success, but he will never be considered a man of character and integrity again (see Tiger Woods). People don't make "mistakes" with their character and reputation. "Mistakes" are something you do in a checkbook. Right and wrong has no grey area. It is not dependent on your culture or circumstances. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. Always has been. Always will be.



Since: Jan 2, 2011
Posted on: March 31, 2011 2:52 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

WEASEL!!!! Mr. Sweatervest is a cheat and a WEASEL>>>>FIRE HIM!!!




Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: March 31, 2011 2:51 pm
 

Oregon St. president: Tressel 'beyond the pale'

Aww, how cute. The lil OSU wants to comment on the REAL OSU.

Too bad no one gives a rats a$% what anyone in Corvalis has to say ...


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