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Report: UMass will join the MAC

Posted on: April 19, 2011 11:49 am
Edited on: April 19, 2011 5:24 pm
 
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

FBS football is about to get another new member, one that should make the already-competitive MAC that much more challenging.

The Midwestern league is set to announce that they will be inviting FCS power UMass to join as a football-only member, according to the Cleveland Plain-Dealer. The MAC Twitter feed has already confirmed that a press conference has been scheduled tomorrow featuring both conference and UMass officials; it's all but official.

Per the Plain Dealer, the Minutemen will play a full conference schedule as soon as 2012 but won't be eligible for the league championship until 2013. UMass is the second football-only member that plays its other sports in the Atlantic 10, joining Temple, and brings the MAC's total football membership up to 14.

The addition of the Minutemen will allow the conference to return to two even seven-team divisions after an awkward set up the past few years with seven teams in the East and six in the West. (The league will likely move area rivals Bowling Green and Toledo into the same division to accommodate the addition.) But more importantly, the move gives the MAC a member with a strong history of terrific football at the FCS level.

UMass won the national championship in 1998 (then I-AA) and finished as a runner-up in 1978 and 2006, pulling in their most recent conference championship in 2007. The Minutemen provide a few "big-time football" advantages to the MAC, including the use of the New England Patriot's Gillette Stadium for certain home games.  As far as the Minutemen are concerned, the move to FBS opens the door to plenty of new opportunities - bowl games, exposure, money - and should come as welcome new to the UMass faithful.    




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Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: April 21, 2011 1:47 pm
 

Report: UMass will join the MAC

Yea, sorry if that came off harsh. Mistake #1 was going to the bar for lunch after we finished for the day extremely early. Mistake #2 was trying to quote something I read after several shots without checking to make sure it was accurate. That was my fault.

The numbers I gave were for whole athletic departments without direct institutional support(student fees, etc). I should have made that clearer and actually read what i was writing before i posted it, then maybe i wouldn't have come off looking like an a$$.



Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2011 7:00 pm
 

Report: UMass will join the MAC

Sixty-eight FBS schools reported turning a profit on football, with a median value of $8.8 million. The 52 FBS schools that lost money on football reported median losses of $2.7 million.

Yeah I got this from that link.

Even then the quality of basketball gets better every ten years with the increase in school and american population. In another ten years most school will profit from basketball and football. I think that may have factored into UMASS decesion.



Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: April 20, 2011 11:55 am
 

Report: UMass will join the MAC

And sorry I have to call out the only 13 schools make revenue from football.

The Big ten and SEC make over 220 million of their TV contracts. That's almost enough to cover fooball scholarships alone. By the time the third game is over they have already made about 10 million of football.
I can think of at least 20 pac-12, Big 12, conference USA, and non AQ teams that sell out every games. To add to the 24 SEC and Big 10 teams.

Way lot more than 13 teams.




Revenue is not the same thing as proft, he was talking about profit. Regardless, plenty of schools make a profit from football however only 14 make a profit from all sports combined:   



Since: Feb 23, 2009
Posted on: April 20, 2011 10:12 am
 

Report: UMass will join the MAC

great news for UMass but do we really think they we achieve the same success as UConn? How many people attend UMass games today? Think this will change once they join the MAC? Good Luck UMass.

Tough to be a college program in New England,



Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2011 1:18 am
 

Report: UMass will join the MAC

And sorry I have to call out the only 13 schools make revenue from football.

The Big ten and SEC make over 220 million of their TV contracts. That's almost enough to cover fooball scholarships alone. By the time the third game is over they have already made about 10 million of football.
I can think of at least 20 pac-12, Big 12, conference USA, and non AQ teams that sell out every games. To add to the 24 SEC and Big 10 teams.

Way lot more than 13 teams.



Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2011 1:07 am
 

Report: UMass will join the MAC

Prove it? That the vast majorities of D1 schools lose money playing football? Man, take two seconds and search for it, itll be easy to find. Only something like 13 or so teams turned a profit last year, only 6 or so have done it every year for the last 5. Do you also think schools make tons of money for going to a bowl game?


Listen I'm not an a hole so lets just talk like normal people I go to a school that plays in the Sun Belt. Before we got in the Sun belt enrollment was like nearly 5000 on the main campus and 25,000 overall. Eight years later New track field, new basketball arena, renevations all over the campus, new baseball field and its about to be expanded to 6000 seats, football stadium plans for expansion, enrollment increased to 8500 and 31,000 overall.

The state has only given us 60 million in the last ten or so years and that was used for a greek village, cafeteria, and most of the basketball areana. But the point I'm making is have you payed attention to D1 schools vs D2 schools? Excluding top academic schools schools with good football programs seem to have a lot of money coming from somewhere buddy.

Like someone said they don't report the whole picture. They give you the athletic budget you know that doesn't include the money from fan clothing, donations, bosters, NFL players giving back to the school, TV, etc,

And this is the last thing I need to say to rest my case. Georgia one of the top programs in the SEC is paying a team named south Alabama (it's their third year playing football) $950,000 to come lose. Yes you read that right. Now do the math if south Alabama scheduled four SEC teams then got the money from the normal season then pretend they made a bowl with a 200,000 payout. School in Alabama is about 13,000 per year so that X 85 is for scholarships $1,105,000. Also factor in the money they get from the NCAA and the state education fund money. If South Alabama sold out two of their games they would make well over 5 million from football alone. Not including donations and clothing sales.

The mess they feed you is because most of the money would be cut off from giving atheltic scholarships to girls sports. This is a freaking Sun Belt team were talking about. Imagine how much money Nebraska makes they always sell out their home games and the teams they play always sell out their games. Lets estimate one Nebraska home game. Tickets are 70$ a piece X 82,000 seats. Yeah dude they make about five million a game and probably more than that. Now imagine what schools Like Alabama and Michigan make?



Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2011 1:07 am
 

Report: UMass will join the MAC

Prove it? That the vast majorities of D1 schools lose money playing football? Man, take two seconds and search for it, itll be easy to find. Only something like 13 or so teams turned a profit last year, only 6 or so have done it every year for the last 5. Do you also think schools make tons of money for going to a bowl game?


Listen I'm not an a hole so lets just talk like normal people I go to a school that plays in the Sun Belt. Before we got in the Sun belt enrollment was like nearly 5000 on the main campus and 25,000 overall. Eight years later New track field, new basketball arena, renevations all over the campus, new baseball field and its about to be expanded to 6000 seats, football stadium plans for expansion, enrollment increased to 8500 and 31,000 overall.

The state has only given us 60 million in the last ten or so years and that was used for a greek village, cafeteria, and most of the basketball areana. But the point I'm making is have you payed attention to D1 schools vs D2 schools? Excluding top academic schools schools with good football programs seem to have a lot of money coming from somewhere buddy.

Like someone said they don't report the whole picture. They give you the athletic budget you know that doesn't include the money from fan clothing, donations, bosters, NFL players giving back to the school, TV, etc,

And this is the last thing I need to say to rest my case. Georgia one of the top programs in the SEC is paying a team named south Alabama (it's their third year playing football) $950,000 to come lose. Yes you read that right. Now do the math if south Alabama scheduled four SEC teams then got the money from the normal season then pretend they made a bowl with a 200,000 payout. School in Alabama is about 13,000 per year so that X 85 is for scholarships $1,105,000. Also factor in the money they get from the NCAA and the state education fund money. If South Alabama sold out two of their games they would make well over 5 million from football alone. Not including donations and clothing sales.

The mess they feed you is because most of the money would be cut off from giving atheltic scholarships to girls sports. This is a freaking Sun Belt team were talking about. Imagine how much money Nebraska makes they always sell out their home games and the teams they play always sell out their games. Lets estimate one Nebraska home game. Tickets are 70$ a piece X 82,000 seats. Yeah dude they make about five million a game and probably more than that. Now imagine what schools Like Alabama and Michigan make?



Since: Jan 7, 2007
Posted on: April 20, 2011 12:30 am
 

Report: UMass will join the MAC

I thought Foxsports posts were bad with all the fake China crap, now they are posting on CBS.  Noone wants any of that fake stuff.


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Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 11:01 pm
 

Report: UMass will join the MAC

Prove it? That the vast majorities of D1 schools lose money playing football? Man, take two seconds and search for it, itll be easy to find. Only something like 13 or so teams turned a profit last year, only 6 or so have done it every year for the last 5. Do you also think schools make tons of money for going to a bowl game?

Well if so many teams are losing money then why are teams like U-Mass moving up to the MAC?   No Football makes plenty of money for these schools or they would be dropping it.   The return might not be in tickets sold or TV revenue but I suspect it comes in Booster Clubs, admissions, and many other soft return items.   Believe me the numbers have been crunched and they will not be losing money on this.  PS  my guess is that in 10 years U-Mass wants to be part of the Big East!    Question is can they be good enough for the Big East to want them. 


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