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Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

Posted on: May 6, 2011 1:16 pm
 

Posted by Tom Fornelli

Former Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett is now with the New England Patriots where he'll serve as an understudy to Tom Brady. When you think about it, Ryan Mallett has a lot in common with Tom Brady. Both were drafted later than either felt they should be, and both are former Michigan quarterbacks. Of course, Mallett left Michigan to go to Arkansas, not the NFL, and according to Mallett's father, nobody really wanted Ryan to stay in Ann Arbor.

Mallett was recruited to Michigan by Lloyd Carr, but after Carr was fired and replaced by Rich Rodriguez, Mallett faced the question The Clash asked many years ago:should he stay or should he go? According to Jim Mallett, when he asked Lloyd Carr what Ryan should do, Carr made it pretty clear he should go.

"At the Capital One Bowl, we were trying to smooth things out, and we talked to Coach Carr,” Jim Mallett told the Boston Herald. “I asked him, ‘Coach, next to my dad, you’re the classiest person I’ve ever been around. What would you do if Ryan was your son? He said, ‘If I was in that situation, with a different offense, he needs to leave.’"

That's not to say that Lloyd Carr had the final say in the decison, though. As Ryan's father went on to say, Rich Rodriguez didn't exactly fight to keep Mallett in maize and blue.

“Ryan’s the one who called (Rodriguez),” Jim Mallett continued. “He said, “Can I talk about the offense?’ And then he told me, ‘Daddy, (Rodriguez) never looked me in the eye.’ He never visited with the family, he didn’t talk to us. I never met the man. But hey, it wasn’t a fit. Let’s move on.”

And everyone lived happily ever after. Ryan got to go to Arkansas and work with Bobby Petrino in an offense suited to his skills and Rich Rodriguez got fired after three sub-par seasons. Okay, so maybe things didn't go so happily ever after for Rodriguez.

Comments

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: May 9, 2011 11:37 am
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

can you blame him!! As a die hard mich fan, I too was sad to see him leave.   But under ric rod, his career wouldve been ruined. Congrats to him for making the tough decision and thanks to carr for telling the truth and leading a young man down the right path.



Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: May 9, 2011 11:31 am
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

here it is



its a long one, but on several occasions i see, lloyd stepped down, or lloyd was fired, or lloyd was ran out of town, whatever, but stepping down, in my book, is alot closer to being fired than retiring, it was a decision made by the powers that be at michigan when they realized the fans wanted to move on, you can make all the app. st. excuses you want, but the way that michigan team rallied that season to finish 9-4 and beat the defending national champs in the capital one bowl, carr should have been able to keep his job, regardless of what was decided the day after the app.st. game, if lloyd carr had been michigans coach (and mallet the QB) the past 3 seasons, there is no telling how well michigan could have done, but going off of carr's history, id say they would have been in a bowl game every year with a record over .500, since carr never missed a bowl game or had a sub.500 season  




Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: May 9, 2011 11:03 am
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

buckeyezane, thank you, not often do i agree with a buckeye but i have to on this particular point, not many coaches are contemplating retirment when their team is ranked #5 in the nation preseason, and was just in the rose bowl the year before, some people believed they should have replayed ohio state for the national title, now compare that sentence to, michigan decides to move on from carr after the #5 preseason ranked wolverines lost to the defending division II champs app. st., the 2nd sentence makes alot more sense, because before that app.st. game, i never heard a word about carr retiring, the day after the app.st. game, youve got every michigan fan calling for his head, but usually when their are alot of connections to a coach like carr to michigan or fulmer to tennessee, the school doesnt want to fire them because of how it will look in the eyes of alumnists, and fans who dont agree with the decision, it is easy to decide to retire when the entire school, its fans, and its administraion has turned their backs on you because of 1 game, i was discussing this exact topic just a few months ago when richrod was fired with other michiagn fans, and most michigan fans on that thread agreed that it was time for carr to go after he lost to app.st., that was the only excuse they could give, nothing about retirement, let me look back and see if i cant find that thread for all the doubters




Since: Jan 13, 2007
Posted on: May 8, 2011 1:49 pm
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

I never said he was fired in my post if your talking about me....I wrote the FANS should be ashamed of themselves for the way they showed him the way to the door....booing him,websites,etc,and I couldn't agree more about your comments on John Cooper but the item I read above never mentioned his name it was about Carr....thank you very much.



Since: Nov 24, 2007
Posted on: May 8, 2011 9:44 am
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

Lloyd Carr was a good coach...not a great one.  He was not fired...even if he told that the program would probably be going a different direction.  Carr was smart and saw the hand-writing on the wall...he retired.  He is a classy coach!  No buckeye fan can legitimately throw stones at that process.  They fired John Cooper, who was also a good coach.  But stepping down...even if under some pressure...is not the same as being fired.  Just ask Richrod...he was fired! 

This article suggests two things.  1) Coach Carr did what was right for Ryan Mallett, and 2) Richrod did not do right for Ryan Mallett.  Richrod knew nothing, and I mean NOTHING, about UofM and the tradition and how to act in accordance to it.  Richrod thought he was bigger and more important than the UofM tradition and so made several major errors on his way in, through and out of the University.  Carr is a classy coach and will be remembered as such.  Richrod was a doofus and will be remembered as such. 



Since: Nov 24, 2007
Posted on: May 8, 2011 1:12 am
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

If Carr told Mallett to leave Michigan what of it! Where the hell is this article going?
I think it is an effort to get the truth out about Mallett. There were writers that said he left Michigan because everyone hated him and he was a horrible person (or something to that effect). Basically the truth comes out after the character assassination. 



Since: Jan 13, 2007
Posted on: May 7, 2011 4:20 pm
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

Lloyd Carr is a class act and Michigan fans should be ashamed of themselves for the way they showed him the door,he was a great coach and seems as though he was a decent man.Michigan was better with him then they have been without him and they have no one to blame,you rear what you sow.Cool



Since: Jan 7, 2011
Posted on: May 6, 2011 9:15 pm
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

Would some one please tell me what this article is all about? Every one at Michigan knows Lloyd Carr had been contemplating retirement all year.Carr retired he was not fired! yes his last season there was not his best for sure but Carr retired. If Carr told Mallett to leave Michigan what of it! Where the hell is this article going?



Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: May 6, 2011 5:55 pm
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

stupid post didnt post the first time, then it shows both of them, whatever cbs



Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: May 6, 2011 5:54 pm
 

Lloyd Carr told Ryan Mallett to leave Michigan

being asked to step down is not the same thing as retiring, actually its alot closer to being fired than it is retiring, because had he refused to step down, they would have had no choice but to fire him, and the decision was made to move on from carr the day after he lost to app.st., regardless if he was allowed to finish the season or not, asking a coach to step down usually happens when an administration wants to avoid being ridiculed later on down the road for getting rid of the wrong coach, and usually the coach has long time connections at the school that the administration doesnt want to break, that way when you look back and see that michigan was in the rose bowl the season before carr was asked to step down, angry fans cant blame it on the administration since he technically "stepped down"  rather than being fired, but most fans know the administration was behind the decision, same thing happened in the fulmer situation at tennessee when he was in the sec title game the year before he was asked to step down


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