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USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

Posted on: June 6, 2011 3:58 pm
Edited on: June 6, 2011 3:59 pm
 

Posted by Tom Fornelli

It may not come as a surprise since most people seemed to be expecting it after USC had its appeal denied earlier this month, but the BCS made things official on Monday. USC has been stripped of its 2004 BCS title thanks to an investigation that began with former running back Reggie Bush. The BCS released a statement.

"The BCS arrangement crowns a national champion, and the BCS games are showcase events for post-season football," executive director Bill Hancock said. "One of the best ways of ensuring that they remain so is for us to foster full compliance with NCAA rules. Accordingly, in keeping with the NCAA's recent action, USC's appearances are being vacated.

"This action reflects the scope of the BCS arrangement and is consistent with the NCAA's approach when it subsequently discovers infractions by institutions whose teams have played in NCAA championship events." 

There is no word on whether or not USC will return the crystal football trophy it was awarded after beating Oklahoma 55-19 in the 2005 Orange Bowl. The AP has said that it will not make changes to its poll and that USC will remain the final #1 team on it's poll in 2004, and USC athletic director Pat Haden has said in the past that the school will still refer to 2004 as a "national championship season."

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Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: June 6, 2011 6:33 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

Posted by Tom Fornelli

It may not come as a surprise since most people seemed to be expecting it after USC had its appeal denied earlier this month, but the BCS made things official on Monday. thanks to an investigation that began with former running back Reggie Bush. The BCS released a statement.

"The BCS arrangement crowns a national champion, and the BCS games are showcase events for post-season football," executive director Bill Hancock said. "One of the best ways of ensuring that they remain so is for us to foster full compliance with NCAA rules. Accordingly, in keeping with the NCAA's recent action, USC's appearances are being vacated.

"This action reflects the scope of the BCS arrangement and is consistent with the NCAA's approach when it subsequently discovers infractions by institutions whose teams have played in NCAA championship events." 

There is no word on whether or not USC will return the crystal football trophy it was awarded after beating Oklahoma 55-19 in the 2005 Orange Bowl. The AP has said that it will not make changes to its poll and that USC will remain the final #1 team on it's poll in 2004, and USC athletic director Pat Haden has said in the past that the school will still refer to 2004 as a "national championship season
 Bravo! Pete Carroll is now title less. No one deserved to be stripped of it more than USC.  They cheated, lied about it, then got nailed. Their slimy coach bolted knowing stuff was coming down. Now, Pat Haden has a long road to rebuild any honor to this program. However, as long as he has Kifflin as coach, it won't happen.

They absolutely must return the crystal football. They are not deserving of it. The NCAA should auction it off and give the money to charity or towards a fund for academics in athletics.

The AP has no credibility. They've voted banished teams before #1. To them, cheating isn't important. They don't take that into account when ranking teams. That to me is pathetic.

This should be another warning to cheaters. USC lost its title, Memphis lost it's Final 4 appearance. To me that's the ultimate slap in the face. it also says cheaters don't and won't win.



Since: Apr 19, 2009
Posted on: June 6, 2011 6:17 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

I'm sure Bob Stoops would love to claim the 04 title after having his ass handed to him by SC. What a joke, so Bush and his parents take money from a wannabe agent and SC gets their title taken away. I guess that means the money he and his parents took made Reggie a better football player enabling SC to completely kill the Sooners.



Since: May 24, 2010
Posted on: June 6, 2011 6:16 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

So I guess this mean in 2017 or 2018 Auburn will be stipped of their then huh, oh, how the wheels grind really slow when it comes to the NCAA.



Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: June 6, 2011 6:13 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

You know what that's fine but no representation for any universities, if you're not admitted as a student you are NOT a representattive of the university.
If they want to do that, fine, make your own minor league system but when you start getting players washed up before they're 22 and have no education or any REAL life skills to show for the 4 years they played in this "minor league system" I don't wnat to hear about how unfair it is that they aren't employable or any litany of excuses we'd hear for players then and why they aren't getting compensated any longer.
Oh and that's the other thing if you play in this minor league system you're not part of the NFLPA -which I now was decertified but will be reinstated once the lockout ends and if you're not a member of the NFLPA - no pension for you!
If you don't recognize the tremendous opportunity given to you by a university to not just play football but to also attain an education that can NEVER be taken away form you unlike your athletic career then you don't value the TRUE experience of college athletics and that scholarship is just being wasted on you.



Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: June 6, 2011 6:08 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

The problem is that the athletes are having an education at a top university handed to them on a silver platter.
Now, if that athlete doesn't do anything with that opportunity than it's his/her fault.
We all know that less than 1% of NCAA athletes have professional athletic careers and I understand that you need to believe in yourself that you're going to be part of the 1% otherwise you're doing yourself a disservice and if you don't believe in yourself you really won't get to the pros.
BUT.... you HAVE to be realistic and plan for what you're going to do once your athletic career is done and let's face it especially in the case of football football is done with you before you are done with it, very FEW athletes leave the game on THEIR terms and when THEY want to, more often than not the game dictates to the player when it's done with that player so why not set yourself up to be successful for when football decides it's done with you?
That would include taking advantage of your educational opportunities, networking with alumni, anything you can do so that when you're not playing anymore you can live a good life and not one of those stories on Sportscenter about the athlete who lost it all and now lives desittute.
I herad someone the other day say that they would have no problem with someone like Terrell Pryor siging autographs for money at card shows in the offseason or during a bye week and I agree! IF that is your chosen profession making some extra cash while you "intern" - and that's exactly what college football is, an "intern" program that gets you ready for the NFL, but doing something like that I have no problem with at all.
I will also say that there's absolutely NOTHING stopping players from working when the football season ends, if you don't go to a bowl game you can get a job then, at that point academics and whatever else is going on in your life are #1 football is on the back burner, sure you can work out in the gym like the other student non athletes do to stay in shape but football acitivities are prohibited at that point, you have free time around classes so go on and work.
You can work until spring practice and even then that's a short amount of time so you can work around classes at that point too oh and summers, sure you can work and enjoy your summer, work out in between then go to camp just before you go back to school.
I don't buy this garbage that an athlete can't work and mujst work on football and focus on football year long, I just don't buy it, not in the  least so no, I don't think college athletes should get paid, they get enough great opportunities handed to them already, it's the rest of us who have pampered them for so long that they expect to also have money handed to them to play before they even sign a contract to do so professionally.



Since: Oct 10, 2008
Posted on: June 6, 2011 6:04 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

I think the NFL should just produce a minor league for players from 18-24. Players will have four years under contract and could represent Universities or City's or whatever. Universities could then have simple no Scholarship football like the Ivy leagues. It would bring back old school style football to the Universities and allow stellar athletes to go and get paid big money in the Minors if they have no current academic ambitions. The current system i completely hypocritical and corrupt and times have greatly changed. Universities are no longer just for rich kids who do nothing buy attend classes for years on the dime of their families dimes and they are certainly not non-for profit institutions. 



Since: Mar 7, 2011
Posted on: June 6, 2011 6:00 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title



why doesnt BYU/LDS refund all the tax free donations thet have received from ex-members of the cult who realized it was a farce and left?



Since: May 23, 2011
Posted on: June 6, 2011 5:58 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

Lets see the books on the revenue generated by the athletes and where it's really going.

google.com

(for public schools at least)



Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: June 6, 2011 5:57 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

Of course Carroll KNEW what was going to come down, that's why he left!
Well that and an NFL coaching job on the west coast that allowed him to as Bill Parcells famously said "Shop fopr the groceries & make the dinner" came along so it was just the perfect time to do so.
I don't forsee Lane Kiffin staying on longterm, he'll bolt for an opportunity in the NFL within the next 3 years but won't stay any longer than that now that the punishments are being handed down and he's going to be under major scrutiny and hamstrung scholarship wise.
He will bolt for an NFL job claiming that he wanted another crack at the NFL because he had something to prove to himself that he could be successful there just like Carroll said so USC fans it may be 5+ years before you're truly back to your winning ways again.



Since: Oct 16, 2010
Posted on: June 6, 2011 5:56 pm
 

USC stripped of 2004 BCS title

You are correct..partially..They were penalized for not disclosing the information as soon as they knew there were allegations of wrongdoing..It is seldom ever the crime. It is usally the cover up that gets the schools in trouble.



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