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Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

Posted on: July 6, 2011 12:21 pm
Edited on: July 6, 2011 12:45 pm
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Let's be fair to Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany: When Delany speaks in this USA Today article on the problems plaguing major college athletics and the potential "fundamental changes" (to use Delany's Big 12 counterpart Dan Beebe's term) that might result, he's clearly not expecting the NCAA's power conferences to secede from the current model:
"Don't blame structure," Delany says, "until you have a group of core presidents, athletic directors, commissioners and coaches who are willing to embrace real change" and are shot down.
That's a lot of people to all wrangle onto the same page. But if that "group" is "shot down"?
"At that juncture," he says, "then I think it's fair to look at how else you get it."
Delany's not spelling it out, but he doesn't have to. "How else you get it" means one thing and one thing only: taking the Big Ten's (and the SEC's and Pac-12's and I guess the Big 12's and ACC's) ball and going home to a post-NCAA college athletics superleague.

And if that first quote indicates that (as the USA Today writes) that kind of split isn't yet "on the agenda," it's not that difficult to see that kind of consortium coming together over Delany's full-cost scholarship proposal. Those kinds of athlete stipends already have wide-ranging support (including, critically, from the SEC's Mike Slive) and are seen by many as one possible antidote to the improper benefits scandals that have given college football the black eye it's sported the last several months.

If Delany and his "group" champion those scholarships as a way to help clean up the sport, only for the non-AQ schools of Division I (which outnumber the AQ schools more than four-to-one and may vote to protect their men's basketball interests) to veto it in the name of competitive balance, then what? It seems as if this would be the exact excuse Delany would be looking for to "look at how else" college athletics might be managed.

Of course, these kinds of discussions are still off in the relatively distant future, and a NCAA split remains the nuclear option even Delany and Slive will likely take great pains to avoid deploying. But that Delany is already using that threat as a kind of posturing -- potentially to suggest to the rest of the NCAA membership that it should fall in line -- suggests that whatever deliberations and debates will surround full-cost scholarships and other sweeping reform measures, don't expect them to progress smoothly.


Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: July 9, 2011 6:49 pm

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

Fighting th NCAA tyranny is nothing new. when Dale Brown was the coach at LSU he would constantly fight with them for what he thought was right. He had a player on the team who had a close family member die. The kid was from a poor family and lived several states away from Baton Rouge. Dale bought the kid a roundtrip airline ticket so he could go the funeral. He then called the NCAA officials up and told them he had committed and infraction and I believe his qoute was " if you nazi bastards want to do somthing about it you know where i am but you better be prepared for a fight". The NCAA never showed up.

Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: July 9, 2011 4:35 pm

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

it is about time.  The NCAA has no purpose other than making money.  Half of the colleges in America are notpart of the NCAA, it is time the rest of them wise up. All college athletic programs would do better without the NCAA.

Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: July 9, 2011 1:51 pm

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

Delaney is posturing to reduce any further penalties against Ohio State. If the NCAA enforces the penalties OSU deserves, the Big Ten will pick up thier marbles and go home ? Not likely.

Since: May 30, 2009
Posted on: July 8, 2011 11:56 pm

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

This will happen because of one reason and one reason only, MONEY.  Big time college athletics is a business and big business needs money.  In this economy there are too many universiites struggling for funds.  Something like 90 percent of the NCAA revenue comes from the men's basketball tournament.  That pool is split some 350 ways.  Imagine if that pool were split just 72 ways?  Add to that some type of four team to 16 team football playoff and you are talking Big Bucks!  Follow the money, follow the money!  As Gordon Gecko once said, "Greed is good".

Since: Jul 8, 2011
Posted on: July 8, 2011 8:46 pm

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

Does any one remember that back in the 60s Bear Bryant proposed a super conference and dump the ncaa,.  At that time the small schools were killing off big time football with restrictions,  When it gained momentium. the NCAA backed off and it fell apart,  It was a good idea then and it still is,

Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: July 8, 2011 4:52 pm

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

hypopcrite...people like Delany and the Big Ten college presidents created and fed and got personally wealthy from this corrupt system .  

Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: July 8, 2011 2:28 pm

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split


You are a funny guy!  As you sit there and read your own comments with such pride, the vast majoirty of us reading these posts think you are a liberal fool.  Maybe try working for a living. 

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: July 8, 2011 9:44 am

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

I guess my point is that you should stop waxing poetic about a topic you want to be considered an expert or aficionado if you aren’t willing to at least discuss the entire topic.  By the way, if in your next b-school course your prof tells you that "trickle down" is a good thing or that the jury is still out... do yourself a favor and find a new school.

DKH, that is exactly why I prefaced my comment with "for the sake of brevity, I'll over-simplify this". I do not have the time, nor is this the place for a comprehensive discussion on economics.  Nor did I deny that deregulation certainly played a role in the collapse.  BTW, when I graduated from one of the nation's top-10 business schools, professors were still allowed conservative viewpoints.  That would likely get you ostracized today. BTW, trickle down economics has been proven to stimulate economic growth and increase the tax base.  But as in everything else, proper balances must be maintained.  Maybe some of our current politicians should take some basic courses in economics.  Maybe then they would know that you cannot tax and spend your way into prosperity, nor is borrowing money to the point that you can no longer pay the interest on the debt a good idea.  Likewise, printing money out of thin air to service the debt never works out well either.

As I see things, there is no doubt that our government officials have badly mismanaged our economic system over the past 4 decades.  Blame lobbyists if you want, as they influenced our politicians into making many poor decisions, but lobbyists are just one of many problems.  The buck still stops with the politicians, and they need to be held accountable by the people.  The bottom line is the spending spree needs to stop, and our leaders need to learn to live within our means.

Since: Jun 3, 2010
Posted on: July 8, 2011 8:41 am

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

I am not a member of the NCAA fan club. However, I don't have a viable option at this point. If we were to have a group of super conferences that did not follow the NCAA guidelines, then we are much more likely to have NFL minor-leagues. I can just imagine what the recruting and money factors might be then; not to mention the safety factors to the athletes.  If Delany is really suggesting leaving the NCAA, he is just (for the first time in a long time) having to deal with the violations and sanctions that are going to hit his conference; just like they did in the Pac-12, Big 12, SEC and so on.

Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: July 8, 2011 6:27 am

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

It is the NCAA's tight dictatorship and money grubbing ways with their restrictions which has caused the athletes to sacrifice their morals and ethics just to keep their head above water while they are in school.
The NCAA is not a tight dictatorship. It is an association of over 1000 colleges and universities of which over 600 have football programs. Whatever happens within the National Collegiate Athletic ASSOCIATION is what the collective membersip agrees to.
athletes to sacrifice their morals and ethics just to keep their head above water while they are in school.
Athletes are not sacrificing their morals and ethics. They have not yet develped them, in most cases, by the time they are 18, 19, 20... They are not selling their trinkets to keep their heads above water. They are selling them because they want hot dates and drinking and drug money, expensive clothes and hot cars. They are not sending their extra cash home to mom and dad to help with the bills, so give it a rest.


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