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Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

Posted on: July 6, 2011 12:21 pm
Edited on: July 6, 2011 12:45 pm
 
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Let's be fair to Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany: When Delany speaks in this USA Today article on the problems plaguing major college athletics and the potential "fundamental changes" (to use Delany's Big 12 counterpart Dan Beebe's term) that might result, he's clearly not expecting the NCAA's power conferences to secede from the current model:
"Don't blame structure," Delany says, "until you have a group of core presidents, athletic directors, commissioners and coaches who are willing to embrace real change" and are shot down.
That's a lot of people to all wrangle onto the same page. But if that "group" is "shot down"?
"At that juncture," he says, "then I think it's fair to look at how else you get it."
Delany's not spelling it out, but he doesn't have to. "How else you get it" means one thing and one thing only: taking the Big Ten's (and the SEC's and Pac-12's and I guess the Big 12's and ACC's) ball and going home to a post-NCAA college athletics superleague.

And if that first quote indicates that (as the USA Today writes) that kind of split isn't yet "on the agenda," it's not that difficult to see that kind of consortium coming together over Delany's full-cost scholarship proposal. Those kinds of athlete stipends already have wide-ranging support (including, critically, from the SEC's Mike Slive) and are seen by many as one possible antidote to the improper benefits scandals that have given college football the black eye it's sported the last several months.

If Delany and his "group" champion those scholarships as a way to help clean up the sport, only for the non-AQ schools of Division I (which outnumber the AQ schools more than four-to-one and may vote to protect their men's basketball interests) to veto it in the name of competitive balance, then what? It seems as if this would be the exact excuse Delany would be looking for to "look at how else" college athletics might be managed.

Of course, these kinds of discussions are still off in the relatively distant future, and a NCAA split remains the nuclear option even Delany and Slive will likely take great pains to avoid deploying. But that Delany is already using that threat as a kind of posturing -- potentially to suggest to the rest of the NCAA membership that it should fall in line -- suggests that whatever deliberations and debates will surround full-cost scholarships and other sweeping reform measures, don't expect them to progress smoothly.

Comments

Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: July 7, 2011 1:01 pm
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

Second, college football does not need any of NCAA regulations.  Each league should have their own and thats it.
Really? You enjoy anarchy?
We need to throw the NCAA out of college sports compeletly.  There are many colleges who currently do not and will not be part of the NCAA.

Funny. The NCAA is over 1000 member colleges of which over 600 field football teams. Did you forget that the NCAA IS THE MEMBER SCHOOLS?
Every other college student is allowed to make money on the skills they learn in class when they are still in college.  Should we punish computer programers for making money during their schooling?

That's like comparing apples to McDonalds.

Too funny.

Laughing



Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: July 7, 2011 12:02 pm
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

First off that comparision makes not sense.  Housing and Banking went down due to goverment sticking their fingers where they should have.  Second, college football does not need any of NCAA regulations.  Each league should have their own and thats it.  The Pac Ten almost left the NCAA several years back, it is about time the country joins in. The NCAA is a mafia, they serve no purpose other than the extortion of money from fans.  The NCAA stole the chanpionship basket ball tourny from the NIT and have now hijacked college football.  We need to throw the NCAA out of college sports compeletly.  There are many colleges who currently do not and will not be part of the NCAA.  They have not had any issues of chaos, why not?  Per you theory they should be pay for all the big players to come to their school.  Not gonna happen.  If it did, what is wrong with it.  Every other college student is allowed to make money on the skills they learn in class when they are still in college.  Should we punish computer programers for making money during their schooling?



Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: July 7, 2011 10:10 am
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

I dont think we will see it, but it definitely can be done. Good for you delany, show them you have a pair!




Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: July 7, 2011 8:07 am
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

One point not made. Delany does not make the decision. The 12 B1G Ten schools vote on anything like this. Some of THOSE people have the smarts to avoid train wrecks.



Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: July 7, 2011 8:03 am
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

Awesome.  Show the world that you only need a few conferences 2 or 3 to run a great football show.  they all play one another any way.  most teams play out of conference game in the bcs anyway not including the warm up games.

NFL does it with 32 teams and in prior years even fewer.



Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: July 7, 2011 8:02 am
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

I believe that Delaney is not playing games at all. Wake up people. THIS IS ABOUT MONEY--billions of dollas of it. Someone outside of footbal needs to step in before the game is ruined. If you're out there listening--PLEASE GIVE US A PLAY-OFF.

What? A playoff solves none of the issues addressed in this article.  As a point of fact, a post season tournament will put more money into fewer hands, which is exactly what is causing these problems we have now. It will only make things worse and hurry the ruin of the game.



Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: July 7, 2011 7:59 am
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

I'm sorry, and I'm probably a minority in feeling that student athletes should NOT get paid.  I would much rather see college sports go back to students playing sports, instead of recruiting high school athletes to stagger through school.  Let the NFL and NBA start minor leagues, just like baseball.  I miss the days when the Athletes were there for the full four years and were actually academically qualified to get a degree.  I'm a Buckeye, so you know I'm sick of the Athletes entitled attitudes and putting themselves first over the school.  I say scrap it all and start over.  Notre Dame Football and Duke Basketball don't seem to have a problem winning with STUDENT/athletes, neither should anyone else.  I don't buy the theory that the excitment of the game will be that much different.
You are not alone.

A 4 year scholarship should be for 4 years and not a 1 year with 3 options.

The athletes already get a lot more benefits than their academic scholarship counterparts: free use of weight and conditioning equipment and facilities with support staff, health insurance, uniforms and equipment, tutors, per diem on the road.

The kids are already getting into trouble with drugs and drinking? That does not indicate they are strapped for cash.

The kids want to live off campus? Fine. They should figure out how to make it happen. They should only get the cash equivalent of a dorm room and a dorm meal plan and they can choose what they wish. Too expensive off campus? Get a dorm room. Too expensive to have a car? Live on campus and walk or take the campus bus.

Somewhere along the line people have forgotten that this is COLLEGE life.

Someone once told me that the most exciting football was the Ivy league and that was because the kids were students first and the amount of practice was much less. The perspective was that interceptions and fumbles and botched plays and assignments actually increased the drama because you really did not know what to expect next and could really not predict who would win. From that perspective, it would be better entertainment, in line with your thoughts, to regress back to "the good old days."      



Since: Sep 13, 2009
Posted on: July 7, 2011 7:29 am
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

 don't know, I see the ncaa as a regulations force. Look what has happened to banking, housing etc. when it has been deregulated? Just thinking?



Since: Aug 14, 2007
Posted on: July 7, 2011 6:14 am
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

This should not upset anyione. The idea makes sense and has been a long time in comming to fianly becoming what needs to be done.
Those universites  presidents and trustees should have realized this long ago. The recent so called scandals have proven the current system does not eork and have made coaches and athlettic directors to become "lawyers" in the interpretations og NCAA riules and regluations in an attemnpt to
try to place every school large and small  into a system that fits all, and it is not doable, and should have been recoginzed long ago. The only thing that keeps the NCAA afloat is the millions of dollars derived from the major schools in the first place. TTo try to compare the larger universities with then smaller schools and the major college c onference with smaller conferences is impossible and the time has come for this change.



Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: July 7, 2011 6:08 am
 

Delany doesn't rule out NCAA split

I dare you, Delaney....


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