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NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:32 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

If you thought that the NCAA's investigation of Auburn and its recruitment of Cam Newton was over, then it seems you'd be wrong. At least, that's the impression NCAA Vice President of Enforcement Julie Roe Lach gave Auburn head coach Gene Chizik last month. That's when football and basketball coaches from the SEC were in Destin, Florida where Lach made a presentation to the group.

According to a report in the New York Times, after Lach opened up her presentation for discussion, Chizik had quite a few questions for her and then she dropped a bombshell on him.
[Chizik] peppered Roe Lach with a flurry of questions about the N.C.A.A.’s investigation into Cam Newton and why the N.C.A.A. had not publicly announced that the investigation was over. Chizik complained that the inquiry’s open-ended nature had hurt Auburn’s recruiting and he followed up at least three times, leading to a testy exchange.

“You’ll know when we’re finished,” Roe Lach told Chizik, according to several coaches who were at the meeting. “And we’re not finished.”
Well then!

While neither the NCAA or Auburn would confirm the exchange between Chizik and Roe Lach, according to the New York Times report, four fellow SEC basketball coaches -- Vanderbilt's Kevin Stallings, Arkansas' Mike Anderson, LSU's Trent Johnson and Ole Miss' Andy Kennedy -- did confirm the exchange to the paper.

Of course, just because the investigation isn't over, that doesn't mean the NCAA is going to find any new evidence than what it has already and use it to punish Auburn. Still, the fact that the NCAA is still digging around can't be all that comforting for Auburn faithful.


Comments

Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 4:37 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Yeah, good luck to you and your wishful hoping sir. 



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 4:36 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

The investigation was incomplete, only because it was incomplete, and still is.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree.  I think it was incomplete because nothing is there.  Like I said, when evidence is there, and a team is backed in a corner, things move swiftly (see Ohio State).  Auburn went with the reinstatement process because we felt strongly enough nothing was there.


Because those players were in trouble fom last year. Remember, the big thing with the tOSU is that Tressel lied about it and covered it up. At the time the punishment for these players to be suspended 5 games, there was no real big issue. It was not known at the time that he had known. Nor did OSU deny that these players did indeed knowingly do something against the rules and have accepted their punishment.

The difference is that Auburn has denied any wrongdoing by themselve, or by CAM.

The situations are entirely different, and have nothing in common other than they involve college football players...that's why I ignored it..it's not even remotely relevant in the context you want it to be relevent in.


My point exactly.  Auburn is denying any wrong doing because there is nothing there.  Are you asking us to admit to something that hasn't happened?  Are you stupid?  Your rebutal doesn't even make sense.  I asked you a very simple question and obviously you don't get it.  Here, let me sum it up for you so you can understand:  The Ohio State investigation is moving swiftly and they are already handing down penalties, vacating wins, and accepting resignations from their head coach because they were busted with hard evidence, and were backed into a corner.  Auburn's investigation on the other hand is moving slowly and nothing has changed because THERE IS NOTHING THERE.  Get it?  It's completely relevant.





Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2011 4:33 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

AUTiger,

I can't argue with a tool.

You refuse to use logic or reasoning in this thread. You repeat the same drivel over and over, forcing me to repeat the same FACTS and WRITTEN RULES over and over, yet you can't seem to grasp what is actually being said.

I hope that one day , when you grow up, you'll get it.

good luck.







Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2011 4:25 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

My point exactly.  The investigation was incomplete at the time because there was nothing there.  Even after all the stuff that had been written about Auburn, Auburn did their homework and felt confident enough to play him.
The investigation was incomplete, only because it was incomplete, and still is.

 Funny how you just ignore the Ohio State analogy.  Answer me:  Why do you suppose Ohio State is already imposing their own penalties on themselves and not trying to reinstate those players?

Because those players were in trouble fom last year. Remember, the big thing with the tOSU is that Tressel lied about it and covered it up. At the time the punishment for these players to be suspended 5 games, there was no real big issue. It was not known at the time that he had known. Nor did OSU deny that these players did indeed knowingly do something against the rules and have accepted their punishment.

The difference is that Auburn has denied any wrongdoing by themselve, or by CAM.

The situations are entirely different, and have nothing in common other than they involve college football players...that's why I ignored it..it's not even remotely relevant in the context you want it to be relevent in.



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 4:24 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

@rebels...

I mean my god you just walked right into it.  You just said it yourself.  If they had something, they would have notified us and made him ineligible and we wouldn't have even got to the reinstatement process.  Auburn felt confident enough there was nothing there so we pushed them to a decision so we could move on with our championship season.  

Now, 9 months later, there is nothing else out there that would suggest new evidence is present or anything we should worry about.  Why is this so hard for your to grasp?



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 4:09 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

If that were the case there would not have been a reinstatement hearing. So no, it would not have come up. More than likely Auburn would have been notified of his inelligibility by the NCAA, not the other way around.

My point exactly.  The investigation was incomplete at the time because there was nothing there.  Even after all the stuff that had been written about Auburn, Auburn did their homework and felt confident enough to play him.  Funny how you just ignore the Ohio State analogy.  Answer me:  Why do you suppose Ohio State is already imposing their own penalties on themselves and not trying to reinstate those players? 

Still has nothing to do with if Auburn has recieved an NOI.

Sure it does.  My point was the NCAA normally leaks that information and makes it known.  Show me where there is a rule that a school doesn't have to make it public they are under investigation and that the NCAA has to keep it a secret and I will say that I am wrong. 





Since: Nov 2, 2008
Posted on: July 14, 2011 4:05 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

We all know Scam Newton was played illegally for Auburn...and their fake national title. It will all come to light much later like the Reggie Bush incident. Cheaters only prosper in the SEC.



Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2011 4:03 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

So are you telling me that a complete investigation is not allowed to be brought up at a reinstatement hearing?  Are you telling me that if Cam Newton was on videotape receiving money from Chizik and Auburn still tried to reinstate him that evidence wouldn't be allowed?

If that were the case there would not have been a reinstatement hearing. So no, it would not have come up. More than likely Auburn would have been notified of his inelligibility by the NCAA, not the other way around.



What I do know is I have never seen a school go on probation out of nowhere. 
Still has nothing to do with if Auburn has recieved an NOI.



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 4:03 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

If this was true, the investigation would have been over. But as we have all seen, the investigation is NOT over. Come up with whatever conspiracy theory you want, the investigations continue...

GAME ON!!


I would just love to know what they are investigating.  Seems to me like they ran out of leads a long time ago. 



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:58 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

NO dumbass..for the millionth time, the reason it wasn't in the reinstatement process is because it's not part of the process. It never is, never was. Again, wether there was zero evidence from and investigation or CAM was caught on tape by the NCAA, it is not part of the proceedings, and would not come up, no one would talk about it at the reinstatement process.

So are you telling me that a complete investigation is not allowed to be brought up at a reinstatement hearing?  Are you telling me that if Cam Newton was on videotape receiving money from Chizik and Auburn still tried to reinstate him that evidence wouldn't be allowed?

As for the NOI, unless you are Jay Jacobs, Gene Cheezedic, or Lord Lowder, or another higher up, you have no idea if the NOI has been recieved, Auburn has no burden to make that public. period. 

Maybe so.  I don't know if that is true.  What I do know is I have never seen a school go on probation out of nowhere.  There letters of inquiry are public knowledge long before any rulings. 


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