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NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:32 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

If you thought that the NCAA's investigation of Auburn and its recruitment of Cam Newton was over, then it seems you'd be wrong. At least, that's the impression NCAA Vice President of Enforcement Julie Roe Lach gave Auburn head coach Gene Chizik last month. That's when football and basketball coaches from the SEC were in Destin, Florida where Lach made a presentation to the group.

According to a report in the New York Times, after Lach opened up her presentation for discussion, Chizik had quite a few questions for her and then she dropped a bombshell on him.
[Chizik] peppered Roe Lach with a flurry of questions about the N.C.A.A.’s investigation into Cam Newton and why the N.C.A.A. had not publicly announced that the investigation was over. Chizik complained that the inquiry’s open-ended nature had hurt Auburn’s recruiting and he followed up at least three times, leading to a testy exchange.

“You’ll know when we’re finished,” Roe Lach told Chizik, according to several coaches who were at the meeting. “And we’re not finished.”
Well then!

While neither the NCAA or Auburn would confirm the exchange between Chizik and Roe Lach, according to the New York Times report, four fellow SEC basketball coaches -- Vanderbilt's Kevin Stallings, Arkansas' Mike Anderson, LSU's Trent Johnson and Ole Miss' Andy Kennedy -- did confirm the exchange to the paper.

Of course, just because the investigation isn't over, that doesn't mean the NCAA is going to find any new evidence than what it has already and use it to punish Auburn. Still, the fact that the NCAA is still digging around can't be all that comforting for Auburn faithful.


Comments

Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:22 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Yeah I read it.  So what.  Please tell me how that proves anything else has been developed that Auburn should be worried about. 


So what? It reanders your point...well..pointless.

Yes, the NCAA was and has been investigating Auburn...yes they had talked to Cecil, Cam, Aubrunf, while doing ther (still ongoing) investigation. The point is that none of that had anything to do with the reinstatemnt of CAM NEWTON as you claim.

I never said you should be worried..I just said you were wrong in your point..and I was right, you are wrong.



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:19 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Not true. It's all in black and white. The re-instatement comitee has nothing to do with investigating Auburn. Nor does any information from an On-Going investigation get considered..why? because it's incomplete at the time.


Yeah cause there is nothing there. 


Did you bother to read the link I posted? Did you have trouble comprehending it?

Yeah I read it.  So what.  Please tell me how that proves anything else has been developed that Auburn should be worried about. 



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:16 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Why thank you... I think that is the first time I have ever had an Auburn fan congratulate me, and they never offer cookies.  Usually on the football boards it goes something like Auburn/SEC is right and you are wrong.  Perhaps you arent like all the other over zealous Auburn fans......... actually, upon review of your posts on this thread alone, you are.  (Seriously, you tried to make a case for Auburn being a top tier sports school by citing swimming..... I mean at least show up with soccer, volleyball, and gymnastics to go with your swimming...)  Thanks for the cookie.


No I didn't idiot.  I even said "not to brag about swimming" because I don't even like swimming.  All I said was you said that Auburn didn't have any other good sports programs, and you were painfully wrong. 



Since: Oct 17, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:14 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Actually, Nitro, Cecil did turn over the church's financial records.  There was nothing there.  Honestly, Auburn and Cecil have been nothing but cooperative and forthcoming during the entire process and where has it gotten them?  I understand the hate coming from bammers.  They gave up a 24 point lead to their biggest rival on their own homefield.  The bammers thought they had the world by the tail when they won the nat'l champ. in 2009 along with their first heisman winner.  Along comes Auburn and repeats everything they did plus add an Outland on top of suffering the greatest comeback in Iron Bowl history on Bear Bryant's field nonetheless.  And it absolutely eats them up inside.  I get their hate.  I love it, actually.  But the hate from the rest of the nation is, frankly, irrational and fueled by an irresponsible media that has distorted this entire saga and has rarely presented the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth.



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:12 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

And your second point shows why they haven't stopped yet...it's been a year. You really think the Reggie Bush thing only lasted a year!?!? He's been in the league for six and just got punished last year...were they sitting on their thumbs for the last four years?


Waiting on a trial to end.  Something that won't happen at Auburn. 

And i never said they have to love up to them. I said it was dumb to get on the bad side of someone that is investigating you. It gives them more than a business reason to catch you. It gives them personal incentive to look as hard as humanly possible. And no, it doesn't make him look innocent. Usually when criminals have something to hide they get very defensive and tend to "lose their cool" when being questioned. A person with nothing to hide should open the books and say "go ahead, there's nothing to find."

Yeah like I said.  That is something guilty people do.  Chizik obviously isn't worried what the NCAA can find or what they think of him or Auburn. 



Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:12 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

@rebels....

You make it so hard to leave because you are so stupid.  When the NCAA ruled Cam eligible it was not just because of evidence (or lack thereof) from Auburn.  At the time they had already been looking into this for over a month.  They had already requested documents from Cecil about his church, tax returns, interviewed Miss State coaches, John Bond, Kenny Rogers, Bill Bell...all of that.  They also had the public interviews Kenny Rogers had done on the radio.    Heck, the NCAA even went to Tuscaloosa to interview Jody Wright because he was at Miss State when all this went down.  You are clueless.    &n
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Not true. It's all in black and white. The re-instatement comitee has nothing to do with investigating Auburn. Nor does any information from an On-Going investigation get considered..why? because it's incomplete at the time.

"The student-athlete reinstatement process provides for the evaluation of information submitted by an NCAA member institution on behalf of enrolled and prospective student-athletes who have been involved in violations of NCAA regulations that affect their eligibility"

"NCAA member institution on behalf of enrolled and prospective student-athletes" = Auburn...not NCAA investigations. Information provided by Aubunrn.

Did you bother to read the link I posted? Did you have trouble comprehending it?





Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:09 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

P.S.  Auburn was involved in shady practices with cam, penalties or not...... but so are my Tigers, so are the Tide, Gators, Bulldogs, BYU, Notre Dame and every other competitive program in the nation.  Just fess up and move on.  It will get you farther than to try to vindicate cheating.




Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:06 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

What do you mean fight all you want?  You are arguing with yourself.  I don't see any Auburn fans arguing we are a top athletic school, but you sure are going out of your way to say we are not.  How about you get a life?  Regardless of what you say about Auburn, Auburn fans are still going to be proud of our teams and programs.  Congratulations, you don't like Auburn and we don't rank nationally on your little list you found (which is only 2010 by the way).  Want a cookie? 


Why thank you... I think that is the first time I have ever had an Auburn fan congratulate me, and they never offer cookies.  Usually on the football boards it goes something like Auburn/SEC is right and you are wrong.  Perhaps you arent like all the other over zealous Auburn fans......... actually, upon review of your posts on this thread alone, you are.  (Seriously, you tried to make a case for Auburn being a top tier sports school by citing swimming..... I mean at least show up with soccer, volleyball, and gymnastics to go with your swimming...)  Thanks for the cookie.



Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:03 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

@rebels....

You make it so hard to leave because you are so stupid.  When the NCAA ruled Cam eligible it was not just because of evidence (or lack thereof) from Auburn.  At the time they had already been looking into this for over a month.  They had already requested documents from Cecil about his church, tax returns, interviewed Miss State coaches, John Bond, Kenny Rogers, Bill Bell...all of that.  They also had the public interviews Kenny Rogers had done on the radio.    Heck, the NCAA even went to Tuscaloosa to interview Jody Wright because he was at Miss State when all this went down.  You are clueless.    

Yes, the NCAA was forced to reinstate Cam based on Auburn's request.  We are not denying that.  But what you are missing is the reason they were forced to do that is because there wasn't, and still isn't, any overwhelming evidence that would suggest Auburn is in any kind of trouble.  This is why Auburn continued to play Cam.  Whether the investigation continues or not, as of right now, the evidence or allegations appear to be the same. 

I am sure you are one of those idiots that said there were audio tapes and wiretaps and still believe the FBI is investigating Auburn right!  LOL.  Funny how that whole line of argument has dropped.  You know that Milton McGregor trial is going on right now.  What happened to all those wiretaps that was going to prove Auburn was paying players through the casino? 

I think you are the one who attends Kumbaya circle jerks.  You and all your conspiracy theorists can sit around and massage each other's sacks and talk about how you just know Auburn is guilty.  That's the difference between you and I.  I wait for my judgment because it could be possible that all of this was just rumors.  You judge now because you are an insecure little small minded piece of garbage who acts tough on message boards to make himself feel better.  One person is being a realist based on current facts.  The other is being a jerk based on hope.   

  



Since: Oct 17, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:51 pm
 

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

I would think being nominated for 5 ESPY's speaks volumes.  How many were you nominated for?


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