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NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:32 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

If you thought that the NCAA's investigation of Auburn and its recruitment of Cam Newton was over, then it seems you'd be wrong. At least, that's the impression NCAA Vice President of Enforcement Julie Roe Lach gave Auburn head coach Gene Chizik last month. That's when football and basketball coaches from the SEC were in Destin, Florida where Lach made a presentation to the group.

According to a report in the New York Times, after Lach opened up her presentation for discussion, Chizik had quite a few questions for her and then she dropped a bombshell on him.
[Chizik] peppered Roe Lach with a flurry of questions about the N.C.A.A.’s investigation into Cam Newton and why the N.C.A.A. had not publicly announced that the investigation was over. Chizik complained that the inquiry’s open-ended nature had hurt Auburn’s recruiting and he followed up at least three times, leading to a testy exchange.

“You’ll know when we’re finished,” Roe Lach told Chizik, according to several coaches who were at the meeting. “And we’re not finished.”
Well then!

While neither the NCAA or Auburn would confirm the exchange between Chizik and Roe Lach, according to the New York Times report, four fellow SEC basketball coaches -- Vanderbilt's Kevin Stallings, Arkansas' Mike Anderson, LSU's Trent Johnson and Ole Miss' Andy Kennedy -- did confirm the exchange to the paper.

Of course, just because the investigation isn't over, that doesn't mean the NCAA is going to find any new evidence than what it has already and use it to punish Auburn. Still, the fact that the NCAA is still digging around can't be all that comforting for Auburn faithful.


Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:50 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Yeah I know that.  What's your point?  What is there to subpeona or wait on? 

How about access to the church's records on donations received?  That could go a long way to prove guilt or innocence.  But that is not going to happen.  And my point was to give the poster who said this is "nonsense" and "the NCAA should prove it or back off" reasons why the NCAA does not operate that way. 

FYI = Cecil's church was never renovated and is still not up to code.  It was rumors.   

You are undoubtedly closer to the situation than I.  OK, the church has not been renovated to meet code, but I sure haven't heard much about the church being on the edge of bankrupcy either.  Regardless, even if it was just rumour, it was still enough to raise eyebrows at the NCAA.  All that matters is there is no proof one way or the other. 

Since: Oct 17, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:50 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Hey Bezap, according to your link, Auburn was unranked in 2008-2010, then ranked 34th in 2007 and 17th in 2006.  So, we were top tier then and now, after we win a national championship, we're not ranked?  Sorry, any ranking that blows in the wind like that just, well, blows.  Got anything better? 

Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:49 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

surprise surprise!
the way the fans voted for the espys last night shows you they dont think much of cam or auburns run last year.
being shut out of all the major awards is very telling on how cross section of fan voters just dont buy the auburn story.

Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:47 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Easy enough to understand. No way you can read and understand these rules and then say with a straight face that CAM NEWTON was officially cleared (for all time) by the NCAA. There was no investigation of CAM by the NCAA for this. He was only reinstated based on the information priveded by the school asking for reinstatement.

Pretty dam clear. Even a tAUrd should be able to understand that...SHOULD be.

Since: Jul 27, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:45 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Why do I have to pick a statement?  Both are true.  

1.  The NCAA is currently leaving it open and covering all their bases.  They want to make sure they conduct a thorough investigation before they officially say it is closed.  

2.  That time is now.  This has been going on since January 2010 and it isn't like the Reggie Bush case that involves a law suit or other paper trails that take so much time.  They either have something or they don't and Chizk has every right to ask that question.  

I disagree about staying on their good side.  That is what guilty people do.  You seem to think that if Auburn fans or coaches behave and hold out tongues that it will somehow change the ruling.  No, sounds to me like Chizik wants to move on because he has nothing to fear and he is tired of the charade of bad publicity.    
Ummm well i guess i see it contradictory that one person is saying both when one is obviously saying "stop" and the other seems much more of a support statement. 

One says, "stop now" while the other comes across as a reasoning for not stopping: "they are just making sure they don't miss anything." Do you want them to stop or cover all the bases? Why would you stop an investigation if they are still checking leads? Seems to me that you would want the investigation to go on as long as it has to if they keep finding evidence or things to check out.

And your second point shows why they haven't stopped's been a year. You really think the Reggie Bush thing only lasted a year!?!? He's been in the league for six and just got punished last year...were they sitting on their thumbs for the last four years?

And i never said they have to love up to them. I said it was dumb to get on the bad side of someone that is investigating you. It gives them more than a business reason to catch you. It gives them personal incentive to look as hard as humanly possible. And no, it doesn't make him look innocent. Usually when criminals have something to hide they get very defensive and tend to "lose their cool" when being questioned. A person with nothing to hide should open the books and say "go ahead, there's nothing to find."

Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:40 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

The NCAA cleared him because there was no evidence, and there never has been

Yo, MORON, the only evidence offered in the reinstatemnt of Cam was provided by Auburn...of course there wasn't anything saying otherwise.

His reinstatement had nothing to do with anything from MSU, John Bond, or anyone or any actual investigating, by anyone other than Auburn.

I never said it was over. 
If it's not over, then he really wasn't cleared. Yes, he was reinstated, based off information givin to the NCAA by the team that declared him inelligble. That in no way means they investigated everything, hell, they didn't investigate anything.

I just do not understand why you tAUrds can't grasp the fact that the reinstatement hearing was not an investigation but a ruling on facts that were only provided by Auburn, and not an actual inquiry into what was going on.

No one, not even the FBI, CIA or whoever would have been able investigate in ONE DAY wether or not CAM and/or his father solicited money from Auburn, and if Auburn knew.

But until then, you just come off as sour graps and a whiny baby, because you have nothing in your arsenal but wishful thinking.'s the deflection that you tAUrds are so well known for. Deflect, Deny, backtrack and Lie, it's the Auburn Way.

Like I said, thanks for coming here and proving how idiotic and delusional you and the rest of the Fambly truly are....

have fun at your next Kumbaya Circle Jerk...

Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:36 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Auburn is not a top tier athletic school.  Most of the schools on this list have multiple sports they dominate.  So Auburn dominates swimming, I dont think that qualifies as a top tier sports school.  Fight all you want, nobody (except auburn fans) has auburn as a top tier athletic department.

What do you mean fight all you want?  You are arguing with yourself.  I don't see any Auburn fans arguing we are a top athletic school, but you sure are going out of your way to say we are not.  How about you get a life?  Regardless of what you say about Auburn, Auburn fans are still going to be proud of our teams and programs.  Congratulations, you don't like Auburn and we don't rank nationally on your little list you found (which is only 2010 by the way).  Want a cookie? 

Since: Aug 10, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:29 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

Actually, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to suspect recruiting violations.  Cecil Newton certainly appeared to be shopping his son's services out to Mississippi St, and his church just so happens to have found enough of a windfall to stave off imminent bankruptcy right about the time he signed with Auburn.  There is just not proof in the way of a money trail between Auburn supporters and his church.  So ultimately, there is no proof that Auburn paid to sign Newton, but that lack of proof does not prove Auburn is clean either.  I'm not bashing Auburn, it just is what it is...suspicious circumstances with no proof either way.

Oh my gosh.  I give up.  There we go with Cecil's church again.  Goodbye folks. 

Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:25 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

 There are some other solid athletic programs at auburn, but nothing like most tier 1 schools across the board. 

Auburn is not a top tier athletic school.  Most of the schools on this list have multiple sports they dominate.  So Auburn dominates swimming, I dont think that qualifies as a top tier sports school.  Fight all you want, nobody (except auburn fans) has auburn as a top tier athletic department.

Since: Dec 1, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2011 2:23 pm

NCAA investigation of Auburn isn't over

it is an ongoing investigation and i want to believe AU did no wrong, however i would be an idiot if i didnt know that there is a chance that something underhanded went down. we are all human and make mistakes, i just hope that AU did not in this case. i will wait on an outcome in the investigation before i make any statements as to whether or not all parties involved are guilty. 

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